Let's normalise talking about this with men

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Okay, so before anyone say to me that it's a family show and they could not show it, let me tell you, I know its a family show and that's why, it's all the way more important for makers to show this.


So I am assuming everyone know that I a 12th PCMB student and that requires us to talk about intercourse/coitus/sex and menstruation/periods.


We were taught, of course the way the teachers here teaches this subject. It was mainly about hormones. 12th really does not have any PG stuff either. But atm, I was asked to do a project. And since menstruation was something easy and I know about it, I chose it. So I did a survey. Boys were not really comfortable talking about it and a lot of girls that I knew does not talk about it to their brothers and fathers.


And I knew it but given that, I really talk about this (in length) with my elder brother, I found it weird that till now too we can't say periods, talk about touch, physical intimacy to our parents... Forget dad's, even not to mother's.


Tbh, it was not the same in my house either. I remember the first time I got my periods, I have just entered 7th and we were travelling the next day and boom. Here you go. I knew about it since one of my friend had already reached puberty in 5th.


So when I told this to Maa, she said don't talk about this in front of papa. I really found it odd but let it slide. Konsa main papa se jaa kar Roz gapiyati thi.


But my father knew this. But I can't talk about periods in front of him. Not to say that the travelling part was like a living hell.


But I remember, due to hormonal changes I skipped my periods for two months and I was scared. Like yeah, I really thought I was pregnant (don't laught. I did not know the procedure then. Bas ye pata tha ki pregnancy mein periods nhi aate hai toh 🥲) and ko daant padi thi mere ko before she made me understand.


And then mujhe meri behen ne bhi gyaan diya. I know I was a clown. But okay. Bacchi thi.


And in 7th, the cramps were literally killing me (it still does 🥲) and I was taking it out on my bro. And he finally got irritated and snapped.


Me: tu nahi samjhega... Bhaag Jaa yahan se varna Aaj maar daalungi tere ko.


Bhaiya: haan duniya mein toh ek tu hi akeli Devi, mahan, intelligent paida Hui hai na.. 'tu nahi smjhega' imitating me. Its a period, get up and go for a run.


I looked him, grunted and yelled for mummy. She ignored me (alag hi dukh hai bhai)


Phir usne mere ko takiye se maara tha. Nd he started talking about it. I was too tired to get up and kill him, so I listened to his blabber. He was just one year elder to me but pata nhi Kahan ka granth tha. Gadhe ko sab pata tha. Nd he later brought me a heating pad and nothing else.


Given that, I have a big family and two of my sisters are married, I saw them talking freely about this with their respective partners and later jija ji did talk to us about it.


Gradually, I started saying periods in front of papa, one day we talked about which pads are better and all. Main ab bhi papa se roz nhi gapiyati hun.


But I got to know one thing, a married women does talk about it to her husband and it's a domestic thing to bring pad, chocolates or whatever helps the lady to find relief.


But when it comes to talk about it to your brother and father, a male friend/colleague, it's suddenly a very very taboo-ed topic.


And that's why I want makers to show this talk between Akshara-Kairav and we may ladies might hate each other, but period pain, we cuss it together. So Akshara Aarohi too. Add Vansh. And the boys pampering their sister.


Of course, I would love to have this conversation between AbhiRa too but I guess, it will also be nice with KaiShu, Aarohi and Vansh.


It will promote a good msg too.


P.S. sorry for the story. I just shared so that you know why it's important for me.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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What you just said is really brilliant and something that should be brought light upon...I m grateful that atleast in my house the scenario is not like this. My father might not be comfortable in talking about periods, but he makes sure that our period essentials are well stocked and if i not i directly go and tell him. I m lucky bcz my younger brother is awesome in this case, he might not keep tab on my period dates but once he knows i m menstruating, he brings me chocolates, makes sure i m comfortable, won't bug me and annoy me like usual, pampers me and even though he dislikes hugging he agrees to my wishes. He is a bit shy when it comes to talking about such matters with my mother, maybe its bcz of her indian culture, where she was taught its a taboo. But when my brother read about mensuration in his class, he came and ask me questions and even hd concerns about how we girls/women go through all this every month.

But the scenario is not same everywhere, my mother's sister who lives in india is very prejudiced regarding this and i totally hate her thought process on periods. She won't let me utter the word *period* loudly, wont allow us in temple or kitchen as if that makes any sense. Oh and also thw journey of taking the pad from cupboard to bathroom is like i m smuggling drugs in a party.

Like seriously its a natural process, which has been present since the beginning of the world, why are there such bigotry to periods, where the woman on not even allowed to express her discomfort, moreover stupid restrictions are put on her bcz she bleeds through her vagina🙄🙄 and few men rolling their eyes as if its the most disgusting thing and woman are to be considered filthy during such times.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: chremma

What you just said is really brilliant and something that should be brought light upon...I m grateful that atleast in my house the scenario is not like this. My father might not be comfortable in talking about periods, but he makes sure that our period essentials are well stocked and if i not i directly go and tell him. I m lucky bcz my younger brother is awesome in this case, he might not keep tab on my period dates but once he knows i m menstruating, he brings me chocolates, makes sure i m comfortable, won't bug me and annoy me like usual, pampers me and even though he dislikes hugging he agrees to my wishes. He is a bit shy when it comes to talking about such matters with my mother, maybe its bcz of her indian culture, where she was taught its a taboo. But when my brother read about mensuration in his class, he came and ask me questions and even hd concerns about how we girls/women go through all this every month.

But the scenario is not same everywhere, my mother's sister who lives in india is very prejudiced regarding this and i totally hate her thought process on periods. She won't let me utter the word *period* loudly, wont allow us in temple or kitchen as if that makes any sense. Oh and also thw journey of taking the pad from cupboard to bathroom is like i m smuggling drugs in a party.

Like seriously its a natural process, which has been present since the beginning of the world, why are there such bigotry to periods, where the woman on not even allowed to express her discomfort, moreover stupid restrictions are put on her bcz she bleeds through her vagina🙄🙄 and few men rolling their eyes as if its the most disgusting thing and woman are to be considered filthy during such times.


Exactly. My brother annoys me, I won't say no to that. He does not bring me chocolates either, usko apne paise kharch karne ke koi shauk nahi hai but he makes the world best coffee, so whenever I want, the coffee reaches me before I ask.


In my house, these essentials are always stocked up... So uska tension kabhi raha nhi that's why I did not talked about it.


My father was not too comfortable in starting either. Like I said, we were travelling and we were going from Punjab to Delhi and Delhi to Chennai and then Chennai to Bangalore. So while waiting at Delhi station, I had a stain and it was my father who noticed but he told Maa and later mumma and me went to washroom.


My brother was the one who made me comfortable. We have talked about everything. Like everything. So after the initial hesitation which was instilled in us, we got over it.


And this time when my 3rd sister was getting married, she was scared of the "first night". I guess a woman who was going to get married will have that jitters and all. So she came to Maa and talk about it. I was there only so we put yet another barrier behind us and discussed physical intimacy.


Tbh, I have not really met anyone here who was disgusted by it. I have met people who get uncomfortable talking about it.


I was just lucky that I get frnds who talk about it and even if someone else interrupt us ki how can we openly talk about it, we held our own arguments.


Toh I agree it was a slow procedure to come out of the barriers and talk about it but it is important that now the light is been shed on it.


Yes, it's a very natural process and did not ITV celebrate pregnancy with such grandeur and pop ups? Then why not periods? It's the first step right? Why talking about it to your brother and father is such a hulabo?


And given that YRKKH is a family show, this is the best show to throw light upon.

Posted: 3 years ago
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This is interesting post. I think there is nothing wrong about taking this thing to men but sometimes your uncomfortable too. Like here is US once my friend got periods and just so my husband doesn't listen she was so uncomfortable to ask me pad and later told me about it. We both live here with our husbands and there is no family. I think more than family it's your own comfortness. And Akshara though seems bold but still she is very conservative shy types.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Harshadfan21

This is interesting post. I think there is nothing wrong about taking this thing to men but sometimes your uncomfortable too. Like here is US once my friend got periods and just so my husband doesn't listen she was so uncomfortable to ask me pad and later told me about it. We both live here with our husbands and there is no family. I think more than family it's your own comfortness. And Akshara though seems bold but still she is very conservative shy types.


I know it's about own comfort but many time we don't open about thinking about other comfort. Like I said, this topic has been taboo-ed...


For a time, I found it weird but then when suddenly bhaiya started talking about it, even I was taken aback and felt a lil uncomfortable. The point is, I have been made comfortable to talk about this, to share my own points and not everyone will have this opportunity.


Not everyone will get a brother like mine who will make sure sex ed is not tabooed for you. That when these pain hits you, you can do butterfly aasan so that thigh muscles relax.


So we need to talk about this and spread awareness. Bcoz this is such a shush shush topic, we don't talk about it.


Like, I am talking about Akshu talking about this with her brother. Strangers are still a far away topic in this line I guess. Toh small small steps.


Like I told you about the jitters that my sister went through before wedding, is not that common? A lot of women don't even know what happens, how and all. And its actually uncomfortable ki how they don't know about it but were married off.

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Okay, so before anyone say to me that it's a family show and they could not show it, let me tell you, I know its a family show and that's why, it's all the way more important for makers to show this.


So I am assuming everyone know that I a 12th PCMB student and that requires us to talk about intercourse/coitus/sex and menstruation/periods.


We were taught, of course the way the teachers here teaches this subject. It was mainly about hormones. 12th really does not have any PG stuff either. But atm, I was asked to do a project. And since menstruation was something easy and I know about it, I chose it. So I did a survey. Boys were not really comfortable talking about it and a lot of girls that I knew does not talk about it to their brothers and fathers.


And I knew it but given that, I really talk about this (in length) with my elder brother, I found it weird that till now too we can't say periods, talk about touch, physical intimacy to our parents... Forget dad's, even not to mother's.


Tbh, it was not the same in my house either. I remember the first time I got my periods, I have just entered 7th and we were travelling the next day and boom. Here you go. I knew about it since one of my friend had already reached puberty in 5th.


So when I told this to Maa, she said don't talk about this in front of papa. I really found it odd but let it slide. Konsa main papa se jaa kar Roz gapiyati thi.


But my father knew this. But I can't talk about periods in front of him. Not to say that the travelling part was like a living hell.


But I remember, due to hormonal changes I skipped my periods for two months and I was scared. Like yeah, I really thought I was pregnant (don't laught. I did not know the procedure then. Bas ye pata tha ki pregnancy mein periods nhi aate hai toh 🥲) and ko daant padi thi mere ko before she made me understand.


And then mujhe meri behen ne bhi gyaan diya. I know I was a clown. But okay. Bacchi thi.


And in 7th, the cramps were literally killing me (it still does 🥲) and I was taking it out on my bro. And he finally got irritated and snapped.


Me: tu nahi samjhega... Bhaag Jaa yahan se varna Aaj maar daalungi tere ko.


Bhaiya: haan duniya mein toh ek tu hi akeli Devi, mahan, intelligent paida Hui hai na.. 'tu nahi smjhega' imitating me. Its a period, get up and go for a run.


I looked him, grunted and yelled for mummy. She ignored me (alag hi dukh hai bhai)


Phir usne mere ko takiye se maara tha. Nd he started talking about it. I was too tired to get up and kill him, so I listened to his blabber. He was just one year elder to me but pata nhi Kahan ka granth tha. Gadhe ko sab pata tha. Nd he later brought me a heating pad and nothing else.


Given that, I have a big family and two of my sisters are married, I saw them talking freely about this with their respective partners and later jija ji did talk to us about it.


Gradually, I started saying periods in front of papa, one day we talked about which pads are better and all. Main ab bhi papa se roz nhi gapiyati hun.


But I got to know one thing, a married women does talk about it to her husband and it's a domestic thing to bring pad, chocolates or whatever helps the lady to find relief.


But when it comes to talk about it to your brother and father, a male friend/colleague, it's suddenly a very very taboo-ed topic.


And that's why I want makers to show this talk between Akshara-Kairav and we may ladies might hate each other, but period pain, we cuss it together. So Akshara Aarohi too. Add Vansh. And the boys pampering their sister.


Of course, I would love to have this conversation between AbhiRa too but I guess, it will also be nice with KaiShu, Aarohi and Vansh.


It will promote a good msg too.


P.S. sorry for the story. I just shared so that you know why it's important for me.

Oh, men are terrified of this conversation in my experience. I was in grade 12 and feeling super unwell, my periods are horrendous and have landed me in the hospital at times, and my guy friend was like why are you taking a half-day, we have a meeting later. And I jested, you're on your own. He asked why and I'm like on my period, and I have a very loud voice (like the voice of a natural presenter) so everyone in the hallway could've heard me. I swear to God, he raised his hands up in surrender and ran the other way like I said Voldemort's name or something smiley37

All my girlfriends were like, how did you say that to him? Cause it is such a taboo topic to share with men, even in Canadian high schools (cause boys are super immature jk). And I'm like so I'm on my period and I feel sick. I'm not going to lie about it. I've made it my personal mission to never shy away from this topic, especially in front of the men in my life and my mother despises me for it.

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Oh, men are terrified of this conversation in my experience. I was in grade 12 and feeling super unwell, my periods are horrendous and have landed me in the hospital at times, and my guy friend was like why are you taking a half-day, we have a meeting later. And I jested, you're on your own. He asked why and I'm like on my period, and I have a very loud voice (like the voice of a natural presenter) so everyone in the hallway could've heard me. I swear to God, he raised his hands up in surrender and ran the other way like I said Voldemort's name or something smiley37

All my girlfriends were like, how did you say that to him? Cause it is such a taboo topic to share with men, even in Canadian high schools (cause boys are super immature jk). And I'm like so I'm on my period and I feel sick. I'm not going to lie about it. I've made it my personal mission to never shy away from this topic, especially in front of the men in my life and my mother despises me for it.


That's why I want to talk about it more. Like we can say only us are uncomfortable but boys are not made too comfortable about this topic either. If someone don't talk about this to them, of course it's going to be shush shush for them too.


That's why I want this.


Some of girl classmate do ask me how can I talk about this to boys or even my brother when I shared it to them and I can proudly say that it's bcoz of my brother that I am able to.


I remember we were studying about pregnancy protection and I was not able to understand the natural protection thing, since my brother had came to my class for monitoring, I asked him nd everyone was looking at us weirdly 😂😂 nd instead of listening to him I was taking in everyone reaction. Jo sar par maara tha wo 😂😂😂

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I did not know you were a PCMB student 👍🏼

Period stigma is an universal issue, I remember reading once that around 60% (not sure of the proper statistics but this is close enough) of women in the UK were cautious to talk about period with their male friends. This mostly due to the negative stigma attached with periods and I do think we should change this because growing up, I was embarrassed of getting periods just because it was a taboo subject. That is not how little girls should feel when they get their first period. It should be welcomed and normalised because it is natural.


As for Akshara, I think she is very reserved and shy in such matters so it will not come easy to her but I would love to see this topic discussed on the show but between Abhira rather than Kairav and Akshara. I'm sorry, I didn't like the Kaisha scenes they've shown so far. I find the actor very monotonous and I get no feelings of siblings sometimes. If the actor playing Neil had been Kairav then I'd have been okay because Paras emotes better.

I think Abhira discussing this scene would be appreciated and break the taboo. But I wouldn't want just a discussion, a good plot would be advised as these types of topics are what I would like to be shown on TV because its important and relatable. Padman was a good movie that did this. Well done Noor, I'd hire you if yrkkh was my show.

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Originally posted by: Silveraliax

I did not know you were a PCMB student 👍🏼

Period stigma is an universal issue, I remember reading once that around 60% (not sure of the proper statistics but this is close enough) of women in the UK were cautious to talk about period with their male friends. This mostly due to the negative stigma attached with periods and I do think we should change this because growing up, I was embarrassed of getting periods just because it was a taboo subject. That is not how little girls should feel when they get their first period. It should be welcomed and normalised because it is natural.


As for Akshara, I think she is very reserved and shy in such matters so it will not come easy to her but I would love to see this topic discussed on the show but between Abhira rather than Kairav and Akshara. I'm sorry, I didn't like the Kaisha scenes they've shown so far. I find the actor very monotonous and I get no feelings of siblings sometimes. If the actor playing Neil had been Kairav then I'd have been okay because Paras emotes better.

I think Abhira discussing this scene would be appreciated and break the taboo. But I wouldn't want just a discussion, a good plot would be advised as these types of topics are what I would like to be shown on TV because its important and relatable. Padman was a good movie that did this. Well done Noor, I'd hire you if yrkkh was my show.


Mujhe laga I cry so much about it here so people will know... Nd u need to eat almonds bcoz I have told u this 😂😂


Exactly. None of us should feel like we have to keep quiet. I got my periods early, like I was 11 and let's just say I got glares and my lifestyle was made a big issue. And I don't want anyone to feel scared and have those idiotic thoughts which seem like a nightmare if they missed their period in starting due to harmones. It was a very bad phase even tho I can laugh about it now ... At my own stupidity, of course.


I feel it's the writing that certain actors are not able to evolve. I laughed at Paras and Mayank fighting scene when Anisha jumped in that lake kinda thing... During makarsakranrti. It was so badly performed by both. And Paras needs to grow in a lot of scenes.


I know Akshara is reserved and shy, but this will bring a beautiful change if she, a shy girl talks about it.


I would love AbhiRa to have this talk too and tbh, a talk about their first night too. Bcoz it's a very very important part and as much as intense romance is exciting, an emotional intimacy through this will give more and more beauty to this. Atleast for me. And I know many will not like this but yeah... This is just me. I a lot of conversation person, gazing at each other eyes, sharing silence and all person.


Nd this is seriously not a dirty talk kinda thing even that's not bad but ITV ho jayega, so I want them to talk about the value of consent here. Nd how they imagined their after marriage life to be and indirect words (so that ITV accepts and still sends a msg), they talk.


Yeah... A track of two week please.. everyday was different. Pain was different and I want them to continue to show about periods in months too. Atleast ek sign toh.


Padman really was a good movie. And that, main aurat hun isiliye woh meri baat smjh paaye impacted me a lot more. Isiliye I am talking about this.

Bold: this really made smile ❤️❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I think issues like Cramps, Menstruating, Consent can be worked into the story beautifully especially since Abhi is a doctor- even Abhi giving Ak a hot water bag for her cramps each month would be sweet and a good start. They could do so much for the issue of Consent even with current pre wedding track. They will have to make it interesting or “intertaining” without it being a science lesson and that would be a challenge. Did the prior seasons handle infertility issues? I think someone said they did - if yes then this team is more than capable of cleverly working these issues into the story!


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Originally posted by: Silveraliax

I did not know you were a PCMB student 👍🏼

Period stigma is an universal issue, I remember reading once that around 60% (not sure of the proper statistics but this is close enough) of women in the UK were cautious to talk about period with their male friends. This mostly due to the negative stigma attached with periods and I do think we should change this because growing up, I was embarrassed of getting periods just because it was a taboo subject. That is not how little girls should feel when they get their first period. It should be welcomed and normalised because it is natural.


As for Akshara, I think she is very reserved and shy in such matters so it will not come easy to her but I would love to see this topic discussed on the show but between Abhira rather than Kairav and Akshara. I'm sorry, I didn't like the Kaisha scenes they've shown so far. I find the actor very monotonous and I get no feelings of siblings sometimes. If the actor playing Neil had been Kairav then I'd have been okay because Paras emotes better.

I think Abhira discussing this scene would be appreciated and break the taboo. But I wouldn't want just a discussion, a good plot would be advised as these types of topics are what I would like to be shown on TV because its important and relatable. Padman was a good movie that did this. Well done Noor, I'd hire you if yrkkh was my show.

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