Aryan-Imlie/ AryLie Discussion Thread 11 (KBM voting pg 88) - Page 88

Originally posted by: _AmyChoco_

To the Hindus,

- I was surprised on seeing the huge Sita Maiyya statue. Is it OK to keep such a big statue in one's bedroom? I thought it should be kept only in designated puja rooms.

- Is Sita Maiyya the same as Ma Sherowali (Forgive me if I got it wrong). I have heard bhajans in shows ,hence the question.

Beliefs differ between Hindus but according to what I have seen Murtis/ statues can be kept anywhere as long as they are tended to (eg pray, clean etc)

No Sita maiya and Ma sherawali are diff

Originally posted by: GenMed

I didn't quite like him too. I always wondered why kushi put up with him as much as she did. I haven't watched MSK. I used to like the mayank character from mile jab hum tum. Well a teenage crush really. I kind-of still do... 😀

May I suggest you do watch him because it's impossible to escape his charms...

Fair warning it's a damsel in distress trope

And you'll find the famous KBM scene there 😆

Ok, since all this discussion about Aditya, and I have seen it from the beginning (I don't know how), I would also like to add my views about it. M, has already added the deets about the storyline so will not venture into that, but why I find Aditya problematic I would like to say.

So basis the portrayal by GM, Aditya is a workaholic who is proud of his journalist credo and has little time for love or family. I on the other hand have always viewed him as a sociopath. He has this weird anti-social attitude where he has zero feelings for his family, I mean nothing. What is viewed as khadoos or aloof is antisocial. In his relationship with Malini, also there is too much formality for a 7-year relationship. I mean 7 year relationship me who call you Aap bro. Woh to ab tak tu or tum ho jata hai.

In PD, he struts around the village like he owns the place. I have always felt that apart from Satyakaam, he has no regard for any other person in the village. He actually treats PD people as some clowns for his personal entertainment, even Imlie. For an objective serious journalist, who has come to cover a rebel leader in PD, he is very judgemental and narrow minded.

Post his marriage with Imlie, came out his real character and another trait of being a sociopath - an irresponsible and reckless man. A man who projected his hostile behavior on a teen who was also forced into this relationship. A man who speaks so vocally about honesty and straight forward life could not apply in his communication in a 7-year relationship. A man who put the burden of decision making on a teen who gets emotionally carried away to take decisions of a marriage, he doesn't consider real. A man in his victim portrayal consistently made Imlie question her self worth, who made her feel like dust, and even called her the same compared to Malini. I thought it would subside over time, but seeing that same behavior for 30 plus or more episodes, just had me infuriated.

Post getting shot to protect him, Aditya was actually awed that someone took a bullet for him. And so his blocked out humanity suddenly revived in him. A girl who is passing out asks him to remove the sindoor from her head and he goes through with it, OMG. Is that a time to even consider all this. I would have said just shut up, will handle the rest. Its mighty ridiculous.

Aditya was floored by Imlie's steadfast loyalty, her ability to endanger her life for him and also keep secrets for him and worship him. These are classic narcissist behavior. Imlie ko to dimaag nahi, to understand this at 19. But Aditya is this. And so Aditya did not want to lose all this he followed her to PD. There 2-3 supposed good actions won Imlie over, and she was bowled by her husband.

Then followed his chori chupke pyaar which was like getting too complex to handle with Malini around. It became unmanageable to watch Malini attempting to work this marriage and Aditya showing his incapacity to make decisions for his and Imlie's relation and leaving Imlie to decide who is an already established emotional fool.

After a year of allowing Imlie to take decisions for this God forsaken marriage, suddenly Imlie's concerns regarding Malini are pushed under the carpet as a teenager's jealousy, her attempts to expose Malini is disqualified as her zidd, whose humanity and morality he fell for is being questioned. Are you for real? What kind of love is this?

Sorry, I don't hate Aditya, too strong a word to waste on a fictional character. I find him unappealing and a person who actually needs mental treatment and rehab instead of pushing himself in and out of marriages. He is a narcissistic sociopath and it just turns off any sense of liking for the guy.

Now, the important part, why would I choose Aryan over Aditya and contrast between both, do you guys want to hear me out, do let me know.😆

Originally posted by: mltr16

Now, when I deliberately go through some of the Aditya- Imlie vms, I am honestly confused..here is a lovey dovey couple, good actors pouring in earnest emotions..and yet all comes undone. Where did it go horribly wrong? Wasn't there red herrings from the start? Or was Imlie viewing everything with the wrong shades? You mentioned that Aditya was flawed earlier too..so his narcissism did come through from the start?

I apologize for the essay and I am going to put a disclaimer, I do not ship Aditya but unlike another thread where there is constant bashing of Imlie and Aryan with no objectivity whatsoever, I am presenting this in the interest of maintaining our impartial/forgive and forget status as Arylians. We only ship Arylie and nothing else matters. Bear with me.

Was Aditya always narcissistic? I am not sure. He was shown as a workaholic, with a low emotional IQ, highly idealistic, proud of his credentials as a journalist, unafraid to confront difficult political issues. The initial interactions between him and Imlie were friendly enough until they were married at gunpoint. From then onward, he was only irritated by her presence, and as he later reveals, how that wedding had lead him to question his manhood, self-respect. He does attempt to tell Malini, but as soon as she faints, he gives up - mistake #1. I think, in a normal world, the character should have persisted and been honest. But his maintenance that Malini was mentally fragile became an excuse and he married her.

Right before the marriage, Imlie vows to stop it and Aditya, in private says he was fine with that, calls her bluff and tells her lets go do it. But Imlie steps back and is shown to give away her sindoor to Malini.

At this point he continues to remain irritated with Imlie but feels a grudging obligation to protect her as well. He keeps attempting to get Imlie to return to PD to study and pursue her life, because he knows she is getting attached to his family and breaking those bonds later will be much harder, but destiny keeps interfering.

Eventually, he convinces her to leave and is somehow tasked with dropping her off to PD, where he offers her money right before they part at the bus stop. A very nice scene here where Imlie tells him off for giving her money for the work done at the T house. They go their separate ways, he to a guesthouse and she goes home. Circumstances bring them together again, and at the behest of Satyakaam, they get married again - same threat, Imlie begs him to go through with it or they will kill him. Aditya reaches the end of his rope here when the village girls prepare a room for them for their SR and he lashes out at Imlie for planning everything to snatch him away from Malini. Another beautiful scene between them, Imlie's angst is shown so well here, fabulous performance by ST.

Then comes the Dil Se scene after which he leaves the next morning with the understanding that she would never return to Delhi. His dilemma is portrayed quite well and after the events preceding and during the Dil Se drama he has developed some respect for her. That's when Imlie has her first NDE. And the first monumental shift in Aditya's perspective about Imlie happens here. Amazingly well shot scenes that I probably watched on repeat for the sheer power of acting from both GM and ST but especially GM.

He brings her back to a hospital in Delhi and she subsequently goes to the T home. Aditya's feelings have changed from irritation to friendly/mentor like. He recognizes that she is a smart girls and encourages her to pursue her studies and her dreams. With Malini's blessing.

Imlie has maintained the entire time from day 1, that to her, he is her husband, she had faith in their relationship and it did not matter to her that he did not consider their relationship real and that he was married to another woman. She would continue to consider him as her husband from a distance. Lots of conversations later, Aditya respects Imlie and becomes fond of her, in his mind like a friend.

He is still loyal to Malini though, and asks Imlie to discard her beliefs about their marriage and move on to a better life, quite casually after the two of them complete a sting operation. This enrages her and she decides to leave for PD. But in the interim, Aditya is kidnapped by the goon he and Imlie were doing the sting operation on, Imlie of course, saves the day, saves Aditya and leaves for PD.

When Aditya regains consciousness at home, he finds out that IMlie has left, becomes restless, makes an excuse and follows her to PD without telling people at home where he was going.

PD#3 trip is memorable. There were so many good scenes between them. The normally conflicted Aditya, is shown to find peace in PD and temporarily forgets his obligation to Malini while in PD. A funny scene of him teaching her the pythagoras theorem, a lovely dance, his desperate and successful attempt to make sure she reaches the exam venue and his argument with the proctor to allow Imlie to sit the exam even though she is an hour late, his encouragement that he believed she was brilliant and even if she had less time, she would ace this exam -- all are worth watching.

He tries to convince her to come back but she refuses saying he cannot give their relationship a name and asks him to go back to his wife, Malini.

Beautiful conversations centered around Imlie's faith in their relationship, her conviction that this relationship was for life and that she would never look at another man, all bother Aditya.

At a puja organized by her mother, he finally calls her Imlie AKT. So, Imlie who already worships him as a husband, ideal journalist, now is both excited by his acceptance and upset because he has a wife waiting for him at home.

She finally refutes all his attempts to take her back to Delhi and he leaves. Another beautiful parting scene. By now, Aditya is at a point where he is going to tell Malini about his marriage to Imlie, no matter what. But it is Imlie that forbids and delays this confession. Imlie comes back to Delhi for college, lives at a women's hostel but Aditya more or less gives her no choice but to come back to the T- house.

He is actually shown quite impulsive here, unable to wait to tell Malini and his family the truth, divorce Malini and give Imlie her haq (yup! that dreaded word). Eventually, (I think it was months in ITV time, or at least felt like it) he convinces Imlie that they needed to tell his family and Malini. He tells Malini, she attempts to kill herself, he brings her back reluctantly, Imlie does a lot of Malini Jaap ad nauseum, irritating Aditya and all viewers who wanted to bang their heads on a wall or just shoot themselves. Malini pretends to have an affair with a fictional KC but when seeking divorce she really meets a real KC.

Viewers sigh in relief, hoping Malini and KC will hook up and all will be well with the world again. But NO, Malini turns evil, KC tells her to F**k off and leaves the picture, Aditya feels guilty that KC was a fictional lover, somehow Malini keeps returning to the T-house, tries to discredit Imlie in every possible way, Janmashtami happens where Aditya in his drugged states thinks he is pursuing Imlie and sleeps with Malini who is dressed in Imlie's clothes. The rest as you know is history, the downfall of AKT begins and now he is so deep in the abyss that there is no hope for redemption. So, I will still maintain, he was a man with flaws, but he was never lewd/never sexually harassed Imlie. Whatever happened between them, hand-holding, cheek kiss, shoulder kiss 🤔, was mutual.

That was my objection. On this thread of late, I have noticed that AKT is bashed, he rightfully should be given his current role as scumbag #1 and just appalling behavior, horrid choices, BUT he was never sexually inappropriate with Imlie. Did he give in to holding her hand or hugging her, yes. But it never went beyond that. Even after family acceptance when Imlie enters his room as his wife, he tells her there was no pressure and until she felt comfortable, there would not be a wrinkle on the bedspread.

So, in conclusion, love Arylie, hate Aditya but I beg you all to try to refrain from inaccurate accusations if you have not watched all the episodes from the start.

It is a complex story for a reason. Get the facts straight, is all.

An avid Arylie shipper,

M

Thank you for writing this 😊

I started binging from Aryan's entry during the winter break based on the tt hype for wedding sequence. I've also been checking into the forum since then.....but I haven't wanted to comment yet because I still have mixed feelings. With your recap, I kinda feel like saying something too.

Initially, Aryan/Imlie was based on tashan and Adi/Imlie was more angst. Then both got too extreme..... and I kinda zoned out a bit 🤷🏻‍♀️. But that's when I also got curious about initially Adi/Imlie. So I binged till the first Adi/Malini marriage.

Binging both of these phases simultaneously, I do see the contrasts between them.

Adi/Imlie ki starting in Pagdandiya was really fun! When Imlie took Adi around her village, tab se bond bann raha tha....friendship thi...banter tha....thodi respect bhi thi.... But gunpoint shaadi ke baad, things changed. Even then, they had soooo many emo convos become the wedding....remorse tha....dard tha....angst tha....it made me feel for them.

Comparing this with Aryan/Imlie convos till the wedding, haan thoda fun hai....thodi respect hai....dard bhi hai....but it's not about them....its mostly about Adi. Imlie ka dard and Aryan ka revenge, both have Adi in it....unka khud ka toh kuch dikh hi nahi raha. I think that was the main reason that I wanted to watch Adi/Imlie ki story too.

Tbh, I don't understand chemistry and all.... I just have to be invested in the story. I'm still not sure which "ship" I like. But I can't deny that Adi/Imlie did have something. Their build up was done so well that I kept binging to know what happens next. All this to say, I can see why the show has been so successful.

Ok lets circle back to arylie.... We don't want another DT note ..

If we want to discuss others we already have @love's thread in other forum... I shared link pg109

Exactly! I felt he was unnecessarily made toxic/douche with some of his traits just for the heck of it. Like Gul did with the eldest bro in one of her recent shows. I wanted to watch that show for a long while but the forced marriage was so ridiculously forced that I gave up. Shipped on of the temp parallels in that show after that but clearly they didn't want to go anywhere with his character but make him a villian unnecessarily instead of maintaining the grey so then gave up on the show altogether.

Originally posted by: _AmyChoco_

To the Hindus,

- I was surprised on seeing the huge Sita Maiyya statue. Is it OK to keep such a big statue in one's bedroom? I thought it should be kept only in designated puja rooms.

- Is Sita Maiyya the same as Ma Sherowali (Forgive me if I got it wrong). I have heard bhajans in shows ,hence the question.

I don't think there is a hard-and-fast rule about that. But I maybe wrong. And then it's ITV, so rules may not apply.

I would most definitely love to know.

Originally posted by: -Sarcy-

Exactly! I felt he was unnecessarily made toxic/douche with some of his traits just for the heck of it. Like Gul did with the eldest bro in one of her recent shows. I wanted to watch that show for a long while but the forced marriage was so ridiculously forced that I gave up. Shipped on of the temp parallels in that show after that but clearly they didn't want to go anywhere with his character but make him a villian unnecessarily instead of maintaining the grey so then gave up on the show altogether.

Ikr! I have watched that scene, and it was such an off-putter. It was ridiculous. No logic or rationale at all. I haven't watched the whole show though.

Originally posted by: libran90

Now, the important part, why would I choose Aryan over Aditya and contrast between both, do you guys want to hear me out, do let me know.😆

Is that even a question? 🤣