Bigg Boss 19: Daily Discussion Thread- 3rd Nov 2025.
Bigg Boss 19: Daily Discussion Thread-04.11.2025
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Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour
My words are in black; joliefemme replied in red; my replies are in green.
Raghav has been cancelled in the sense that there was a man who vowed to make Pallavi his priority, and he's no longer there. Didn't Pallavi also promise to make Raghav her priority but then what happened? She forgot that in light of her FARZ didn't she? She also broke her promises but I don't see why Raghav is put on such a pedestal that he cant break his promises? He also broke promises, so did she.
I shouldn't respond to whataboutism, but Pallavi didn't break any major promises and she always tried to communicate, unlike Raghav. While responding to an injury, Pallavi forgot that Raghav expected her at an awards ceremony that wasn't important to Raghav until that morning. For that minor offence, Jaya blocked Pallavi from apologizing to Raghav, and Raghav decided to get drunk so that only his voice was heard, not Pallavi's. At the time, I recognized Raghav's behaviour as domestic abuse and called it out.
Pallavi always prioritized Raghav. Priority means first, and first implies that there can be other commitments. Pallavi does not have to defer her conscience for Raghav. She decided to fulfill a duty to her father, and asked her priority Raghav to accept her decision. When she woke up after "suddenly falling asleep" at the Maṅgalā-Gaura, she called her priority Raghav and he snapped at her instead of worrying about her health. Contrast Pallavi with Raghav, who didn't even tell his so-called priority wife that he made the decision to get drunk and thus lose his inhibitions with his ex and let whatever happen. Instead, like other times when Raghav couldn't do whatever he wants and feel good about it too, he lashed out at his so-called priority Pallavi.
I haven't put Raghav on a pedestal. I have consistently said that it's not surprising that he would commit adultery because he has a history of breaking promises; he often makes poor decisions while drunk; and while he talks about his principles, his actions often don't match, even in the same scene. I still like the character enough to write fan fiction about him trying and failing, and trying again. In case someone thinks I'm picking on Raghav, I'll say that one time when Raghav was driving drunk and endangering innocent people on the road, Pallavi also got drunk and endangered her own life at home.🤪
It is total speculation on your part that "nothing happened" will be revealed about the sex act(s), but what about all the betrayals by Raghav that were shown on screen? Yes we are talking about a situation when they will confirm that nothing happened. The audience may not be mature enough to accept Pallavi forgive Raghav for an ONS out of a drunken mistake. What kind of betrayals are you talking about? I have given instances where Pallavi has done the same with Mandar. Only difference being she was honest and Raghav is not. Hence you see he has to go through a path of redemption while Pallavi didn't have to. I cant make my views anymore clearer than this.
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In no way is Raghav's behaviour comparable to Pallavi with Mandar. Why isnt it comparable. I have given you all instances, yes the severity is different and no one is denying that. Everyone here unanimously agrees Raghav needs to repent and grovel and naak ragdo to get her forgiveness.
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Pallavi drank one cup of tea with Mandar in a public place. Raghav drank alcohol in private and lost his inhibitions to the point that he remembers doing something that he should only have done with Pallavi. Wasn't Pallavi in a drugged state in Mandar's room sleeping on his lap holding his hand asking him to not leave her. She said all that for Raghav, similarly in a drunken state Raghav was only imagining Pallavi. After Amma and Raghav leave Pallavi in Mandar's room, Aayi promises to take care of her but she leaves the next second and Mandar is still in the room with Pallavi. How do we know nothing happened becayse Pallavi doesn't remember a thing by her own admission.
Telling his wife that someone was a classmate/friend when she was a lover = betrayal. Planning to sleep in the same room with a woman who said she loved him and rejected her husband sexually for him, letting her hug him, agreeing to drink excessively with her = betrayal. Getting drunk after promising his wife he wouldn't = betrayal. Not telling his wife that he woke up naked with another woman and remembers substituting the woman for his wife = betrayal. Not addressing the possibility that his wife will have a stepchild (e.g. asking the other woman to take the morning-after pill) = betrayal. Allowing his wife to bring the other woman home without knowing about the adultery = betrayal. Making his wife feel undesirable rather than admit that he feels defiled = betrayal. Telling his sister to keep the adultery a secret from his wife = betrayal. Planning a honeymoon without getting tested for sexually transmitted diseases = betrayal. Sorry if I left out one or more examples; I didn't watch this track, but what I've read on this forum about Raghav's behaviour is so different from how I imagine him behaving in my fan fiction when Raghav is accused of infidelity to Pallavi and then finds out that Pallavi is leaving him for Mandar, and he articulates his feelings about his own chastity and Pallavi's chastity.
Pallavi never did "the same" of any of the above with Mandar. Your effort to draw parallels depends on false equivalencies such as matching tea to hard liquor and matching someone who unknowingly consumed a drug with someone who chose to get drunk. These are not the same actions with different degrees of severity; they're fundamentally different situations.
I want to follow the forum rules and not comment on any member's values. So ... my abstract opinion is that the difference between honest and dishonest is enough to negate any impression of parallels between Pallavi's and Raghav's actions, and I don't think anyone who disagrees needs to make it clearer for me.
Pallavi went out of her way never to betray Raghav even symbolically. It was ridiculous writing, but Pallavi wouldn't burn Raghav's photograph and managed to set her saree on fire, and Pallavi danced while Raghav aimed a gun at Mandar so that she wouldn't have to sign divorce papers. I don't condone what Pallavi did at all. If she had a good reason to fear for her life, and she massaged Mandar or let him do her pleats, or even had sex with Mandar, I would sympathize with her because of the situation. Raghav got kissed without his consent, and I sympathize with his victimhood for that, but sex acts take time and effort, and whatever he did in that category was because he drank until he gave consent without caring that he had to pretend that another woman was Pallavi.
Raghav should come clean and repent and grovel because it's wrong to deceive Pallavi, not because he wants forgiveness. I don't think Raghav's behaviour deserves forgiveness, and that's different from saying I'm not mature enough to accept a forced happy ending.
None of the flashbacks Raghav gets shows anything implying the whole act was committed. He just assumed the worse and even if it did happen, he was in an inebriated state and Esha clearly violated him. I don't see half the uproar that happened when Pallavi was violated in the pleat scene. Why the double standards when the victim is male?
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This is not women vs. men. Honest and caring people get more leeway than those who act guilty by keeping shameful secrets. Yes I agree it is not a man vs woman thing but here Raghav isn't getting any sympathy because he is man. I myself have made this mistake of not realising he was violated by Esha until hapc made her post on this perspective. This is how deeply ingrained gender stereotypes are. My stand and my position on whether a spouse can be forgiven or not is not colored by gender bias.
We can't expect to see simulated sex, but when Raghav repeatedly says that he got carried away by his feelings, we can believe him.
In the first episode, Raghav's date was shown unbuttoning him, and he said that they had had dinner, wine, and "fun," and that love isn't something that happens in the back seat of a car. In that case, we could assume that their "fun" was a sex act that happened in the back seat, or we could insist that we can't believe it unless it's shown. But in the present story, has Raghav ever said, "I assume, I guess, I suppose ...?" Or has he always emphatically confessed that what shouldn't have happened happened?
Raghav wasn't expecting the kiss; he was violated by that. However, one drunk person pretending that the other drunk person was his wife doesn't make him or her the victim of whatever sex acts they perform together while uninhibited but conscious. The alcohol made Raghav not care about morals or consequences; it didn't make him helpless or unaware of what he was doing.
You are bringing up male/female, not I. Let me be clear: Pallavi being drugged and misrepresented by Mandar is a parallel to Raghav being drugged and posed by Anjali. Amruta getting intoxicated with Yogesh and having consensual unprotected sex is a parallel to Raghav getting intoxicated with his ex and having consensual unprotected sex.
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Even when Pallavi wanted Mandar to think that she desired him, she wouldn't massage him or allow him to pleat her saree. Raghav came to the guest room at night, gave his ex a long hug, and sneaked out because he was doing something wrong. Did you not see Mandar gave a hug to Pallavi and it was a very tight hug, I hate to point this out but I was quite triggered by the hug. There were a lot of times Mandar has touched Pallavi but she didn't take a stand because she didn't feel violated (for lack of a better term). Raghav's actions did come across as shady but he was emotionally manipulated so badly by Esha, again the same way Pallavi was - in fact I feel Pallavi was less manipulated but felt a sense of moral duty to help Mandar.
If you're triggered by a hug, but Pallavi isn't ashamed of it, I don't consider it a betrayal. If Raghav innocently hugged his ex to comfort her, that's not the same as a hug that he felt the need to hide from his wife.
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People who are guilty but are whole heartedly repenting deserve a second change. We don't live in an idealistic world and humans make mistakes and are selfish but you cant cancel everyone without giving chances.
Holding someone accountable and ending a relationship doesn't "cancel" the person. No one owes another person a second chance. Especially not in the form of sexual access. If Pallavi chooses to forgive or not forgive Raghav, either way, it's her sexual expression, which is her fundamental human right. Saying, "you can't cancel everyone without giving chances" is shaming those who choose not to be fooled twice. Let magnanimity be a choice, not a requirement.
Brilliant take👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Especially the last bit…
So all those who don’t want to forget or forgive their Partners for cheating, infidelity or whatever reasons and decide to separate and move on are immature people…
Victim shaming at its glory…
Brilliant take👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Especially the last bit…
So all those who don’t want to forget or forgive their Partners for cheating, infidelity or whatever reasons and decide to separate and move on are immature people…
Victim shaming at its glory…
What can you expect when Drinking Tea on s stall where a lot of people are present = drinking whiskey behind closed doors with nobody around 🤪
Originally posted by: joliefemme
Rose tinted glasses my friend 🤗
The ones who have cancelled Raghav don't care that eventually it will be proved nothing happened. We don't live in an idealistic world, it's not a big deal to remain friends with your ex and having drinks with your ex or sharing a room with your ex when there are riots in the city and no other rooms are available. You need to see the intent of the person in light of the circumstances. Is main self respect aur feminism ki koi baat nai hai. I would say the same thing if genders were reversed.
Raghav's care and concern for Esha in all subsequent scenes is exactly the same that Pallavi felt for Mandar. If she isn't blamed for emotionally cheating Raghav why should he be blamed. Why do women get more leeway than a man. Raghav made a mistake by hiding things from Pallavi and he will pay for it. Pallavi was honest and was let go off without as much as an apology.
Raghav doesn't love Esha and only loves Pallavi but delulu people like Esha ko kaun samjhaye. Esha jaise log can only see things they want to see, Raghav can scream from rooftops but Esha won't understand.
I'm so excited to see the upcoming episodes as I dig angst and we are being served it finally.
I so agree with u and two three people here.
We don't live in a idealistic world and people arent saints whether Pallavi wants to forgive or not is a personal choice and she must be given that as that is what feminism is .
The freedom to have a choice both Raghav and Pallavi had pasts that affected their present.Agar haar ek galti ko pakad ka Beth gaaye like why he helped his ex sa why he pushed her away toh phir duniya main koi shaadi shuda nahi bachega.
Love is selfless is the biggest bullcrap line I hear all the time . Raghav was violated and that factor can't be taken away just cauz that girl was his ex .Ladka Ho yaa ladki a no is a no.
Both mandar and this track have had resembling incidents and have been purposely given to show alag reactions.
Raghav not coming clean even after trying is something I am angry at and condemn him for that but I understand what made it so difficult for him to come clean. That man has had a dark past and often kabar sa murda zinda hoke vartaman main dakhal deta hain aur Raghav ka yaahi hua .
It shows ki vaade hum kaarte hain aur hamare usul bhi hote hain par aksar waqt aane par hum exactly uska ulta karte hain as how Pallavi said to Raghav ki hum dono ka beech haava ko bhi guzar na sa pehla permission leni hogi but next day went to help mandar . She intended to keep her promise but haalat had different plans.
I want raghav to repent but would like both to come together in the end as often intention matters and Raghav never had the intention to cheat and was clear that doesn't rule out his mistakes but if Pallavi Desires and she feels than Raghav must be given a chance and if she chooses to moveon I am in support of that as that is what feminism is to me the freedom to have a choice .
Originally posted by: Wilddreams
I am amazed at how people advocating for second chances can't present their case without bringing down Pallu in Mandy track 🤣🤣🤣
Tell me about it…lol..comparing Pallavi Mandar and Raghav Esha is like comparing Cheese and Chalk…
Pallavi never once even remotely tried to hide, lie, be dishonest, she never once put herself in a situation where she had to conceal things from Raghav like Raghav sneaking away from Esha’s room after the midnight meet, greet, hug, comforting with his Ex..
Pallavi kept reassuring Raghav about her love for him and her intention towards Mandar, while Raghav consciously kept her away from truth..right from lying in the beginning that she was just a friend when she was actually his Ex, her Me too message to this point…
Pallavi was truthful about everything she did, but Raghav was dishonest from the word go..that itself amounts to cheating your spouse…
Raghav ko chance dilana hai toh Pallavi ko neeche girayo and phir bolo we are neutral viewers and love Raghav and Pallavi equally
Now Pallavi getting drugged without her knowledge and carried to Mandar’s room in an unconscious state is being compared to Raghav willingly getting sloshed with his Ex, who still loves him and for whom his feelings too got reignited…
First thing Pallavi did when she woke up was question Mandar why did he bring her to his room and not take her to Ayi’s room…but Raghav the next day was sitting quietly and listening to Esha when she told him how wonderful she felt about their previous night…probably pampering his male ego, after all she dumped him for a rich guy and here she was back with him making him feel desirable again and just few hours ago he shook his wife off when she hugged him out of concern and didn’t even bother to feel sorry about it…guilt be kitna opportunist hai..it surfaces only when he is with Pallavi not when he is with Esha…
Ab tho yeh haal hai ki if a person doesn’t want to forgive their partner for cheating and don’t want to give them a second chance and decide to move on then they are not matured….
The logics that gets defied in this forum to save the Golden boy…😂
Raghav ko aur kitne chances chahiye 😆
Second chance toh usne Pallavi ko kohlapur jaane se rokte time hi le liya tha.
Another chance Pallavi gave him after accident track.
Another one for lying about diamond smuggling.
Another after Abhishek's death.
Another after calling his love a mistake.
Another after choosing his business over her.
Another after rejecting her advances for intimacy.
Kitna bardaashat karega koi😭
Pallavi has to keep giving chances to the Golden boy til jab thak hai jaan, jab thak hai jaan, jab thak hai jaan…yeh uski fidrath hai…at least to get a happy ending hum yahi chaheghe….
Comments in bold…
Originally posted by: Wilddreams
Kya hi bole Anu 😆
Tea = Whiskey
Drugged without knowledge = drinking on your own accord
Being transparent = lying consciously
Aur kya bole bas 🤐🤐
Ab hum kuch bole nahi..isliy tho bola ja raha hai..hume chup karwane keliye aur bhi bohut kuch bola ja raha hai aur aghe bhi bola jayegah…ab issue yeh hai ki hum chup baitne walo mey se tho hai nahi…hume jo Sahi lagegha hum bindaas bolenghe… deal with it…
Let me watch the episode..Shivi was brilliant it seems..can’t wait…
Happy Diwali 🤗
To you guys too ❤️
( why are you posting that gif ? This one is more suitable )
Give Raghu respect
So what if he’s a cheater , giving him second chance
( which would be 6992733th chance in reality) is Patni’s farz 😎.
If she doesn’t , she lives in quite idealistic world 🤔.
Poor husband!
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