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Originally posted by: majoni03

Yes they are showing her as despo... Btw did she audition for Raavi's role? In that mock shoot video they were saying Raavi Raavi

Yeah I saw some comments on Twitter that she had auditioned for raavi's role as well, but she didn't get it (thank God 🤣)

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

I don't care if Deesoo stays or goes. I just don't want Shiva or Raavi to be further butchered because of her 🤢

Exactly. This 3rd angle didn't matter until we saw shiva as dev 2.0...🤓..we were proud of shivas character becz he was not at all like dev .and when it was the time to show it, he gives us dev 2.0..🤪..and ravi is always given a stepdaughter treatment from writers. 😡

Originally posted by: majoni03

Sometimes makers end some character abruptly also. Let's hope they end her role soon.. I feel bad for the actress though. She has just entered and people already want her to leave😆

She must have watched the show before joining in..then she would be mentally prepared enough for the backlash. 😆

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

Yeah I saw some comments on Twitter that she had auditioned for raavi's role as well, but she didn't get it (thank God 🤣)

Alice is best as Raavi. I like Raavi's dobiness because of Alice only. She looks very innocent

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

All blame goes to the makers.. they wrote her so bad that people have issues with ShiVi being together now 😆

Thats sadly the hilarious part of the whole show ..😆

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

I love ShiVi too much to let go of them just yet, so I guess I will stick around 😆.. bas negativity ke saath saath positivity ki ummeed bhi ho 😆

Same Alu.. I am sticking until shivi is done and dusted for me..😆..I still have a tiny bit hope of seeing Shiva pining for ravi..and ravi fighting for herself.. and shivi realising they r made for each other no matter what..

Originally posted by: deeps07

Exactly. This 3rd angle didn't matter until we saw shiva as dev 2.0...🤓..we were proud of shivas character becz he was not at all like dev .and when it was the time to show it, he gives us dev 2.0..🤪..and ravi is always given a stepdaughter treatment from writers. 😡

Shiva isn't dev 2.0 yet.. he is still Shiva. Apart from that one questionable reaction that the makers had him give to the kiss, which I hope they fix soon. With something.

The makers must be aware of the extreme reactions and backlash from the fandom so im sure they will do some damage control to fix Shiva.

We complained a lot that we weren't getting raavi's reactions, we're finally getting it now. So we will get Shiva reacting to Disha too. In fact there's a spoiler floating around on Twitter saying that Shiva and Disha are going to fight (not sure how true it is)

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

I love ShiVi too much to let go of them just yet, so I guess I will stick around 😆.. bas negativity ke saath saath positivity ki ummeed bhi ho 😆

That’s what my hope is as well, toooo much negativity for too long now. Exhausting.

There was one shimmernof hope with Raavi’s return & shivas kala saya adventure with Devima’s sindoor-Tika.

Thought finally we will get some positive progress & should trust Pandya Process.

But Nope. Choubeys ne chutney bana di.

Originally posted by: majoni03

Alice is best as Raavi. I like Raavi's dobiness because of Alice only. She looks very innocent

Yeah me too. Raavi in her Dobi mode needs to look cute and innocent, otherwise it won't work and would just irritate us. Alice has the features to pull that off, but Deesoo does not 😆

Originally posted by: Transference

Disclaimer: This post doesn't condone adultery which is a severe problem. My problem with the track remains that they are MARRIED on papers. Though they have a broken relationship, Shivi has never really been a typical husband and wife. For Shiva, it has been more about being loved. For Raavi, it was more about a failed marriage. I am taking the creative liberty of the show makers with a pinch of salt.

I am trying to present another point of view in the perpetual battle between the matters of the heart & the laws of the land. The beauty of fiction is its distant detachment and various emotions it evokes during its journey. Pieces of fiction on ITV have strong moral yardsticks given the reach of the households as such. Any debauchery draws flak, criticism and strong reactions, and rightfully so. In our society, women and their status are ambiguous, and any caricaturish representation further normalises such behaviour against them. Raavi DESERVES better and not this!!! That's a fact! My heart melts to see the girl doomed right from the word GO!

As a distant piece of fiction or characters, I like the current track except for the nasty being legally married on paper. But, such things happen in life. I know of someone who was waiting for A formal sign-on divorce to be stamped. She went on a mad liaison with someone during that period, and it just helped her cope better with the downward spiral of low self-esteem. Was it right? Maybe not! But she felt better. Her sanity was preserved.

I like Shiva as a compelling character, not because of his questionable hypocrisy but because of the layers are given to him in the grey too! He is idiotic, chaotic, hypocritical, boxed, chauvinist and loving with a heart full of passion. He makes you hate him with Shiddat.

I was watching a video interview of Alankrita Shrivastava where she stressed the fact that subversive characters need not be necessarily Morally correct.

So, taking everything with a pinch of salt.

If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Validation, acceptance & Matters of the Heart in the context of Shiva:

Human beings from thousands of years have always sought confirmation, approval and being loved for what they are. Whether it was a validation for the choice of mate, later guarantee for being strong enough when they started living in communities, and then the peer pressure to look a certain way to be accepted as per society happened.

In short validation, acceptance is at the core of every human being. While we may be greatly upset with that peck and Shiva’s nonchalant peaceful reaction, it doesn't negate the fact that it did give him a miniscule second of relief and sense of peace that maybe he deserves to be accepted the way he is.

That sense of peace when you are spiralling downward in the muddy whirlpool of self-doubt, misery and insecurity. That sense of reassurance calms down frazzled nerves and gives a renewed feeling of tranquillity.

Does that mean one falls in love or commits emotional infidelity? Maybe no!
Does that give a sense of confidence? Yes
Does this help in self-preservation? Yes

Does it help to move on? No, it doesn't. Only time does. Despite being validated, nurtured and loved during this catapulted spiral, the sunken and punctured hollowness of the heart remains trapped in the debris of a broken relationship.

Disha walking in between the madness that already exists between Shivi further adds fuel to the fire that consumes them.

Marriage for them is not their making or breaking point, it just gave a focussed dimensional plane to their world where everything else around them ceases to exist.

Disha has been introduced as a perfect foil to Raavi:
1. Someone who appreciates Shiva for who he is, and for becoming someone whom she desires
2. Someone who chooses him Out of choice and not in a forced situation or compromise.

3. Someone who is grounded and with her feet on the ground contrasts with Raavi, who is supposed to be an airhead.
4. Someone who likes bad boys as compared to gentlemen in case of Raavi. That's another story that Shiva is a bad boy only when it comes to Raavi. As per Raavi ‘woh hath piche karke Good boy ki tarah Disha se chipka tha😆’

In short, the facets of compatibility and Sukoon for Shiva has been set, in contrast with the Junoon and madness with Raavi.

Shiva & Disha, furthermore winning the contest, will deliberately create a plot point where Compatibility Vs compromise will come up.

That again presets the tone for “matters of the heart vs the laws of the land.’

Shivi defies logic, compatibility and yet their world exists around each other. It's complex, but no matter how hard they try, destiny keeps them together like a moth to a flame.

On papers, it adds a piece of surrealism to their romance and relationship, which is complicated, twisted, bizarre and may not make sense. But, that's how they are - without-fathom, insane and two people in a parasitic relationship with each other.

Is it an ideal relationship? No
Do they belong with each other? For us, maybe no, but they ‘BELONG TO EACH OTHER’

Shiva wants her to CLAIM him! And, that's his zid. Today’s song did summarise him: Ek dil hai, ek jaan hai, dono tujh pe qurbaan hai!

No matter how much compatibility, compromise and love for a gentleman crops up, they are idiots who have a universe of their own.

Who would give a law to lovers? Love is unto itself a higher law.

Boethius,

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