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Posted: 3 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

My answers in green.

I mostly agree with Asmi again 🙈

But the aspect of emo cheating is very grey ..when u continue to refer to your ex with a nickname and not by the vanhi it does not look good tbh ..my bro is married to my junior who is a great friend of 7 years before they met . They met thru fam decided to date for 6 months and then said yes to marriage. Even though she is 3 years younger and a great friend I still refer to her as vanhi . This could be irking sam and vir should draw a line here..

When u spouse is berated with words like junglee and stuff like that, u e ex calls her nurse, eshann faramosh staying silent means u agree ...love is not really as imp as respect and honour. Honour as a husband is u need to stop the bullying esp since she has no other fam and is a teen

Tbh she has no reason to believe when emo cheating part is pretty evident even if is sometimes not aware that he is crossing that line

I am not sure of love without respect 🙅

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I mostly agree with Asmi again 🙈

But the aspect of emo cheating is very grey ..when u continue to refer to your ex with a nickname and not by the vanhi it does not look good tbh ..my bro is married to my junior who is a great friend of 7 years before they met . They met thru fam decided to date for 6 months and then said yes to marriage. Even though she is 3 years younger and a great friend I still refer to her as vanhi . This could be irking sam and vir should draw a line here..

When u spouse is berated with words like junglee and stuff like that, u e ex calls her nurse, eshann faramosh staying silent means u agree ...love is not really as imp as respect and honour. Honour as a husband is u need to stop the bullying esp since she has no other fam and is a teen

Tbh she has no reason to believe when emo cheating part is pretty evident even if is sometimes not aware that he is crossing that line

I am not sure of love without respect 🙅

Exactly this whole dost thing is very weird...I dont think none of the wives would want a dost like this, like Virat has , in their lives, who has been given so much leverage, even at the cost of good romantic moments, good physical relationship, gifts and fun...

Edited by asmi_joya - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Asmi,


I liked how you brought up Samrat's responsibility. I agree and I am glad he questioned as a brother. I have few questions which I would like to ask to understand what might be driving each character.


I genuinely would love to get answers for 4 points below (for now). These questions does not mean I discredit anyone's opinion. they are genuinely my questions to understand the characters, in case I am missing anything. So please dont take it personal.


1. Samrat is a nice person. He likes Sai too. But will he not be biased in judging Virat, because he is in the same boat as Sai? He cant look at Virat objectively. can he? Only whatever little he has seen of Virat and Sai he will base his judgement on him. Besides, he is the one who noticed VIrat's love for Sai as soon as he returned CN till cafe incident.

Samrat was speaking from a place of knowledge. He has slowly gathered all the information - Virat's abusive behavior (past & present), witnessed BFFs ganging up and publicly taunting Sai, was attentive when Devi was chastising Virat for keeping quiet when Pakhi was talking ill about Sai. He also eavesdropped on their fight - where Sai was accusing Pakhi of deceiving Samrat to make Virat jealous. Apart from all this, Samrat astutely figured out quite early on that Virats proximity to Pakhi bothers Sai - which is why he kept telling Virat to learn to understand Sai ki khamoshi.

He does understand that Virat has feelings for Sai. But at the same time understands that Sai must have suffered in this relationship. I think he must have been taken aback knowing that Virat is even capable of acting so cruelly.

2. Virat has no introspection, that is sad. But if he 'believes' Sai doesnt love him, just cares for him then what he should do? what options he will have other than to leave her? Will any man or woman who have fallen in love with the other person maintain a platonic relationship staying close? Will they not be miserable? So if Virat wants to move away from her to give her peace and also to stay in peace, why is it his selfishness?

I believe Virat moving away was a good thing to do. But CN-wasis ko unki akal mubaarak.


3. He did, for few days showed his displeasure from his anniversary hurt. He did behave selfishly. I was also disappointed that he forgot his basic duties towards Sai. But why cant we just see it as his helplessness to deal with his heartbreak? Any human being will go through it. Judging his love for these things is not fair.

As I have written numerous times - I would have been okay with Virat acting indifferent. Or even hurting her with his words during their fights in the bedroom. But locking her up in the room , ganging up with his ex-girlfriend to insult her? That broke Sai. Both of them say mean things to each other, wash dirty linen in public. But this was way ,way unpardonable - there is a limit. And he still soes not have any remorse over either of the incidents.

4. He DOESNT draw a line with Pakhi. I agree. I am pissed off too, he should learn to shoo her off. But if he doesnt even think Sai should get effected (Yes he is dumb, and stupid and all because he thinks he is clear enough on his status with pakhi), what should he do? Someone has to guide him, or he should realize it. May be till now, he did not realize due to his stupidity. If a person doesnt know he is committing a mistake, then how will he correct it? If he doesnt realize soon, he will lose Sai. But is his realization tied to the purity of love he has for Sai?

I think we differ massively in this. Take the most dumb, inexperienced person - who is cluless about relationships. Do you see him/her failing to maintain distance with their ex? Especially after knowing his/her ex has feelings for him/her? However complicated reason I try to explain, it is just not possible. Of all the people, he knows what it feels like to be insecure or feel bad about the spouse spending time with someone (who is not even an ex). How will he not even know that he has to set some boundaries? That is why I believe that unknowingly he is having emotional affair with Pakhi - but convinces himself consciously that he just sees her as a friend. When you dont set boundaries with your ex, gang up with her to insult your wiife, get angry when Sai retaliates, but keeps mum when your ex is bad-mouthing your wife and you also participate in it, it is emotional cheating? I cannot attribute it to his dumbness because no one in this world can be realistically this dumb.

In short, I am able to understand there is no respect for Sai in this relationship because he will let others walk on her, eventhough there are ample instances he stood by her. But will this one 'not able to shut pakhi in front of her' discredit his love? Their marriage might not work because of this because Sai is a girl with self respect, but doubting his love on this one aspect is unfair is what I believe.

I dont like to use love word for SaiRat - both are not there. Virat has feelings for her but there is some uncertain emotional connection with Pakhi as well. I dont know what to call his feelings for Sai. What I am expecting is a certain amount of genuine attachment,loyalty and a sense of fairness - which will prevent him from acting cruelly, prevent him from crumpling up her self-respect by participating with his ex in insulting her and maintain the same distance with Pakhi which he expects Sai to have with her male friends.

I am just trying to say love and respect are 2 different things. Here, he is failing in respect only in one aspect. Also, lack of understanding which is compounded due to insecurities might cause people to discredit the others and cross the line. But based on this, is it correct to devaluing the genuine feelings?


I am tagging only 3 here, because I am sad that I am on the other side of opinion from these friends of mine :)

My answers in purple😊. I dont know how clearly I was able to convey my POV. I tried my best.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#24

If after all this if Sai is going to easily go back, will Virat realise that it is his supposed closeness with Bhabhi is the reason why she wanted to leave. Is that psychiatrist going to open his mind?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

If after all this if Sai is going to easily go back, will Virat realise that it is his supposed closeness with Bhabhi is the reason why she wanted to leave. Is that psychiatrist going to open his mind?

Rono does realise, when Imon leaves his hand that she was holding like her hand dependent on it, the moment she sees RK staring at their clasped hands...But utna hi...they will get back to ganging up against IMon even after confession/consummation...when things go wrong...

Edited by asmi_joya - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Rono does realise, when Imon leaves his hand that she was holding like her hand dependent on it, the moment she sees RK staring at their clasped hands...But utna hi...they will get back to ganging up against IMon even after confession/consummation...when things go wrong...

Which is why I like Pulkit's one dialogue today to Virat... Your care and concern is all 'hawa'. If this is going to repeat again and again, what's the point in showing those tears and guilt.đŸ€Ș

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I am appalled because of shoddy direction and editing.. On top of that why so much limitations while showing creativity.. They shoved Karishma and Sonali with a fear because they may end up quiting the show.. Devi tai was there in place of UM but no one takes her seriously because she is childlike..Half of the dialogues given to pulkit didn't make any sense.. No one actually bothered about how this girl has must have gone through for the past one year because of these two so called bff.. On top of that no one cared about how that accident happened.. No one got to know about her selfless act..

I might be in minority that I felt Virat today was almost there..He said the right the things but missed the poignant... He promised to take care of Sai but she isn't obliged to reciprocate his love.. His dialogues are limited to parvah, feelings that's all đŸ‘ŽđŸŒ

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Not because of Virat self victimizing himself, Not because he still does not understand Pakhi's intentions, not because he still sits and chats with Pakhi, when he knows how much she hates the woman fighting for life, because in general, people dont want to see such people around them in such situations...

But does he still thinks it was Kadwaahat between them , Sai not understanding his feelings...He still fails to understand how he behaved with her after his transfer was cancelled...How he and Patralekha mocked her at every given chance...How he domestically abused her.. Nothing, no contemplation, no realisation...Nothing at all..

People blame Samrat for saying that Virat does not care for Sai, has done nothing for Sai...While watching the scene I thought he is saying all this because he has not seen the good phase and hence that is his impression of Virat and Sai's relationship... So he is wrongly blaming Virat.. But on giving a second thought I saw he has seen Virat misbehaving with her, domestically abusing her, ganging up with his ex to taunt her and he has not seen how she was treated the last day at CN. He also understands that Sai was thrown out by Virat, was misunderstood by him... He has though seen some good pictures of them in the room, which made him question Sai on their equation...So he assumed they have been happy as well....As a neutral person, knowing about the good days in a marriage and bad days as well, Samrat has seen a side of Virat who mistreats Sai and domestically abuses her as well, when he is angry with her...How is he wrong in saying that he should not be here... If Sai had a father he would have said the same thing...considering he knew, how she was being treated...Will Patralekha's father let this go if she was to leave the house, because she was mistreated and met an accident on the way...Just because Samrat is not Sai's own brother and has made his set of mistakes, does not mean he cant point it out...If Virat after throwing Sai out could have pointed the flaws of his criminal family, if he had the right then so do Samrat...

Regarding Pulkit, he was right its not about him... Today it was all about Virat, main kya karunga, main chinta karta hun, main parvaah karta hun.. and not any contemplation on how this girl was ready to leave her college, the college that she got on her merit, leave the city, to get back to the place, where her life, her virtue is always at danger...Zero Zero retrospection there...He is busy proving people , he cares... I am not able to understand it anymore...

And this is the family he wanted her to stay back, who still discuss about her ways of life, her mistakes, when she fighting for her life? Jo marte wakt usko nahi chorte zaleel karne se wo aise kya chorenge...He talked about this family...

He is really full of himself. He understands P, maybe (he is really thick though) but she is the only one who is showing care and comfort for him in between family members and friends who are accusing him. However, he is never wrong in his eyes. Patralekha repeats it... Hence she is the best.

The age dynamics, the reason (zimmedaari) that was the charm of the couple SaiRat, has become the main reason for all these issues. There is no equality, respect between them. Sai has no one on her side to question Virat on her behalf. She once had Usha maushi but she was a bigger Damaad ji fan than being a mother to Sai. Now that Sai found Samrat and Pulkit to stand for her and show mirror to Virat, it's difficult for Raja Babu to digest.

In the family, what is up with everyone to let the other person complete their vile accusations before anyone reacts... Many times, they don't even do that... What's with excessive use of expression and lack of words...

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Posted: 3 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: Ay3_smitten

And in whole accident track I had yearned to hear “Meri Sai” dialogue from him

But still he is stuck on himself😭

That's what everything was mai mera.... On loop... But jo relief chahiye tha... Meri Sai was absent...đŸ˜”

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Posted: 3 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: mishtypie

In the precap also Virat is back to self victimization. Sam told correctly that Sai might be his wife legally but he have never given her the position. Because always his best friend grabs that one. Even to be with him in the hospital she had to fight. I don't blame Sam for questioning him because since the day he returned what he saw made him to conclude.

Regarding pulkit he has every right to question virat because last time he had promised that he will never repeat his doings but what did vaada boy do he ended up breaking the promise.

Sai was always the third person in her marriage... Best friend DOST❀ always has more importance than her, boundaries are always blurry... After Sammy's return, they don't seem to be present at all...😭

Pulkit has his doubt that V-P have affair... He is correct in his stance and rudeness. He knows about Sai's issues... Just that his dialogues are not good to leave an impact... Impact of whitewashingđŸ€Ș

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