The Game of Cat and Mouse - Page 15

Context could be that she left him for obvious reasons n that looks like his realisation n regret lol I don't even want to bring the bachhi's name after watching those cringe scenes

Originally posted by: Juvvi9

Oh My God.. Such good writers n analysts here.. Phir bhi I'll give my two points as usual 😆..

Yes she's now much more emotionally invested in the relationship but she n her vishwas is enough..

She wants AKT ka saath but is not dependent on it completely..

He doesn't even want to register the gravity of the situation.. Isliye jab tak divorce matter bhi directly imlie ko affect nahi karega ye divorce bhi pada rahega..

We can never just walk out of a relationship we believe in n the person we love... We try to make amends, compromise, try till we reach a breaking point..

Loved the write up Juvviji.

In my eyes, Imlie, the 19 year old is under immense pressure to display maturity beyond her years. This girl never asked for love, a man’s support or for that matter a relationship she needs to lean on.

When SM gives it all but it remains a forbidden fruit for a long time, how much can this 19 year old resist, confront, decipher and adjust?

Doesn’t she crave his love, his affection, his time and his support? Why should be walk away and display that immense strength and put those walls back up again, when she was forced to break them down? It’s that constant pendulum swing, that life and situations and AKT are throwing at her, is what makes me hurt for her.

Poor innocent thing, she doesn’t know what emotional sickness is, to feel what she feels for a person she felt it all with that one person, whom we now want her to walk away from. oh poor Imlie!

I think the cruellest thing today was poor Imlie seeing him tied by the wrist to Malini. And then he lied blatantly to her on several points. I was so involved that when I saw Malini's scumbag smug look I actually slapped the TV screen!

Please makers get rid of that HORRIBLE Malini soon before I unintentionally destroy my tele! 😂

Originally posted by: Gwiwer

I think the cruellest thing today was poor Imlie seeing him tied by the wrist to Malini. And then he lied blatantly to her on several points. I was so involved that when I saw Malini's scumbag smug look I actually slapped the TV screen!

Please makers get rid of that HORRIBLE Malini soon before I unintentionally destroy my tele! 😂

That scene broke my heart. I felt like chopping off their hands along with the kalaava. Ugh this show is turning me into a monster 🤢

Originally posted by: krispy

Loved the write up Juvviji.

In my eyes, Imlie, the 19 year old is under immense pressure to display maturity beyond her years. This girl never asked for love, a man’s support or for that matter a relationship she needs to lean on.

When SM gives it all but it remains a forbidden fruit for a long time, how much can this 19 year old resist, confront, decipher and adjust?

Doesn’t she crave his love, his affection, his time and his support? Why should be walk away and display that immense strength and put those walls back up again, when she was forced to break them down? It’s that constant pendulum swing, that life and situations and AKT are throwing at her, is what makes me hurt for her.

Poor innocent thing, she doesn’t know what emotional sickness is, to feel what she feels for a person she felt it all with that one person, whom we now want her to walk away from. oh poor Imlie!

Totally totally agree with you

Imlie is the sweetest little girl who deserves to be pampered by everyone and especially by Adi. But look where we are. We don't even want him to touch her. Arey how much more will they break her heart 😭

Originally posted by: Whatever765

JP pehle toh tussi 🤗 for such an interesting discussion! Loved the way you iterated your perspective keeping the basic characterization, as I have understood or perceived.

Let me start off with, Imlie and AKT came together in the most bizarre circumstances, their life together was never going to be easy, simple- specially as they kept moving in it with the decisions they took. None of them really were to cause real pain or avenge anything. The decisions as and when they were taken always had an underline of good intent. Having said that in a relationship, when an effort is required to get over a situation, one partner usually falls short. That is how I have seen in this show too. There relationship before and after they promised each other that it will be of barabari, they have maintained that balance as a cumulative effort.. If AKT falls short of trying, Imlie succeeds over what fell short...If Imlie gives less, AKT does the rest. Example, Imlie would have never confessed to her feelings, if AKT was not this impulsive and got her home during holi. If AKT was not as staunch as he is with certain ideas, Imlie would not have been able to give her exam and would have ended up wasting a year. On the other hand, what we saw last week was Imlie overpowering AKT to get the truth out and even getting his self-confidence back.

These two are like alpha couples. They are each other's cheerleaders. Instead of directing the other person or telling them what to do, they simply support each other and have a mutual trust that the other person will do what is best for them. Yes AKT broke her trust but so did Imlie by letting SK escape, the man who literally killed AKT. Both these incidents made them mad at each other, but neither of them gave up on each other, because inherently they know the decisions they make are not to hurt each other. They are not afraid of conflicts, hell they are such different people yet, they usually overcome it and move on. That is what they are doing now too, atleast trying to. They are alpha couples, because both of them are not trying measure up to each other, no, they adore each other in ways that never has expected a confirmation either. There is no acting entitled in this relationship. They both are not after excellence or perfection. They strive to be good (above average, even) but they understand that they are human and everyone has shortcomings.

Having said all of this, I still feel that the core characterization has not changed at all. It is the story telling and execution that has taken a hit. My complain is there. When we watch a scene, there are so many perspectives, inferences, nuances that translate out. Some of these details need to be more pronounced. AKT at this point is in a sea of guilt and I have no problem with what and how he is behaving for the sake of the baby. I do not think he has gone very far into this to start getting excited to be a dad...oh well, in the messy situation and the way this has happened, I do not see why he will be any excited. This is a zimmedari for him and he will do it with utmost commitment. BUT, AKT also knows it is affecting Imlie negatively and in my opinion the writing is not doing justice to that part of the feelings. The focus is on his expression where it hurts Imlie the most. And I think I understand the intent for that too. But wished, they paid some attention to how AKT is trying his best to attain the balance, we hardly get any monologues for him now days. I want AKT and Imlie to have a proper conversation. Not one where they are trying to be reactive to each other. But all this comes under script writing and that is so bungled up!

For Imlie, AKT is her world and beyond. When I hope she leaves, it is not because I want her to go find a life of her own and another man, nope that aint happening, will not happen. This girl has her heart, mind soul in AKT. But the leaving part is more for her own self-preservation. She needs to leave because maybe her part was/is done and that paves the way for AKT to do his part. Unfortunately until these two have a realization, that the other person is not physically near them, they do not think differently! It is like pause and restart for them Also I do need this track to reach some culmination...hence if Imlie leaving is what it takes, then let that happen and let's get on to the other side..!! 😆

As for the divorce- that is just dangling for no reason. I just consider that as Faltu and a moot point now. I wont be surprised if at the end of it all it just gets proven that M and AKT marriage was never legal to begin with its null and void, whereas Imlie and AKt was registered at the gram panchayat level and is valid!!. She has an adhar card, wouldnt that have required some document?! Again such bad writing! But yeah, first Imlie kept blocking it, then Malini...AKT is like kya hi pursue karne ka...Imlie humari patni hai, hum Imlie se pyar karte hain...should be enough for a few more weeks, atleast until IPL is done..😉

AKT and Imlie were buried under a mountain of guilt, called Malini. when they made a promise to each other....I would say Imlie is free off that guilt and hence today is thinking straight and even making un-biased decisions. For their relationship to grow, AKT needs to conclude his guilt. That will happen only when he knows about Malini's evildoing because he gave her ample chances to explain to him how she feels, and she in her ego never did.

As a side note, Imlie and AKT's relationship can be summed up in the "I need you" song by LeAnn Rhimes.

Oh and I am quite sure there aint no baby

#TeamNoBabynotevenMaybe 😉

Whatever ji - loved what you wrote and you bring out lovely points about how maybe the story was intended to be, should be, could have been...but unfortunately is not....at least not explicitly shown. With your interpretation of things I can clearly see the lovely barabari relationship the writers probably intented to create. However we cannot write the script for them and while characterization wise you are bingo on Adi's - the writers have failed to deliver and show this beautiful relationship you have written. I wish I could erase what the maker showed, failed to show etc and re-imagine it - the way you have described Adi from the core characterization thus far. It would resurrect the badly executed portions of Adi's character for me. For now - though I can see your Adi in what they developed till Malini's fake suicide - post that point the Adi you describe has probably existed in intent - but never got executed for us to see and appreciate and further love. Instead we go a poorly written, Malini focussed, blind Adi who does have some decent scenes with Imli but has failed to emote or be the Adi you describe. Writers have a big part - but I do feel Gashmeer could have done better with showing remorse, despair, regret, guilt, hands tied wala claustrophobia ...anything better than the """expressionless zombie look or the 'i don't know whats happening' bewildered little boy look or the lets trivialize the severely toxic situation by saying and doing innane silly & stupid things to get Imlie to move one""". His incorrect reactions are making the relationship appear very unequal, unfair to Imlie and also why most of the viewers are up in arms.

Viewers should not be expected to interpret intention...you can only react based on what we see shown.

Anyway it's frustration again rearing its ugly head. If only writers have stuck to your vision - we would have had a much more wholesome watching experience.

Originally posted by: krispy

Loved the write up Juvviji.

In my eyes, Imlie, the 19 year old is under immense pressure to display maturity beyond her years. This girl never asked for love, a man’s support or for that matter a relationship she needs to lean on.

When SM gives it all but it remains a forbidden fruit for a long time, how much can this 19 year old resist, confront, decipher and adjust?

Doesn’t she crave his love, his affection, his time and his support? Why should be walk away and display that immense strength and put those walls back up again, when she was forced to break them down? It’s that constant pendulum swing, that life and situations and AKT are throwing at her, is what makes me hurt for her.

Poor innocent thing, she doesn’t know what emotional sickness is, to feel what she feels for a person she felt it all with that one person, whom we now want her to walk away from. oh poor Imlie!

Aww thank you krispy ji..

The girl deserves the world n more.. Just look at the imlie we had in initial episodes.. The carefree, living life to the fullest jhalli.. At that time also she when she got her wajifa which was her dream.. NN tore it into pieces infront of her own eyes.. Even after that she came back got stronger n became 2nd state topper..

Not saying that she shouldn't get any respite from all this.. But its Imlie’s story her struggles, hurdles through which she came out, AKT being her partner (now who is not more than a dumb ziddi teenager who just want to see anything n does apne mann ki),plot device like M is needed but they need depend to like M n3eds to be there without being divorce.. They can continue to ghusao her even after that but at least get AM divorced mann..

The reason she was afraid to give in to her feelings n kept delaying marriage truth reveal.. That girl knew the world way more than her age.. Her dialogue " humari bas itti si dua hai ki hamare intejaar ki umar bohot choti ho" before the hug that was before marriage truth came out.. She was fearing the love care to be snatched away once their truth was out n acceptance would be a path of thorns n that is what exactly happened.. Bjt she at that time had AKT ka saath..

Which is there now too but more than that him explicitly saying that he believes hern trusts her is what is need at the moment.. Sometimes some things need to be spelled out.. I know I know their rishta doesn't need that to be said but this was the reason she kept those walls around intact for the longest time for which AKT had to do minnatein..

Now she is naraz n slowly retreating back to her shell.. This time whenever the truth is out I don't want hee to give in so easily like last time.. She should give toughest of time.. He needs to understand that he can't take Imlie ka trust for granted.. As JP said he is both Imlie’s strength n weakness..

Hope we see our jhalli smiling n jumping around soon.. Bas rulate rehte hai isko😔

Originally posted by: Juvvi9

Oh My God.. Such good writers n analysts here.. Phir bhi I'll give my two points as usual 😆..

Basic essence of the story is Adi-imlie being there for each n their relationship in most undesirable n disastrous situations.. They have some core opposite ckt traits.. As one being logical n the one working out in things based on her belief.. One being selfish n other being totally selfless.. One having short sightedness n taking things at face value so that scenarios don't get complicated.. Other brought up in worst of situations n taunts thrown her..n many more as many of u pointed out in previous threads n post..

With that said the situations they went through together their journey from forced marriage to falling in love even telling the truth they both had barabari ka saath.. Even without saying it verbally.. The mutual respect admiration n love is what is keeping them going.. Vishwas ka was always imlie ka forte from start... It did waver in between because she knew how AKT was /is n she being a selfless soul couldn't even imagine anyone hurt due to her.. Whereas AKT was the one with short sightedness i would say.. Ye banda sirf aaj aur abhi jeene mei believe karta hai.. Lyk kal ho na ho types.. 😆

And Imlie being imlie she is not the one to give up.. She did try to leave but now since she knows both are dependent on each other emotionally n their love.. It is not easy for her too.. She's born fighter.. She'll make her way.. She decided she'll always be there for the relationship so she'll be there even if she's alone.. Yes she's now much more emotionally invested in the relationship but she n her vishwas is enough.. She wants AKT ka saath but is not dependent on it completely.. She walked out after thinking he betrayed her she broke down.. But got up asked SM to show her way.. Even if that day the if they way didn't go back to AKT someday it would have.. Coz they are destined to be together no what..

Whereas AKT being this pahaad jaisa aadmi is completely dependent on imlie.. His world is imlie in short.. That is why he's being so relaxed seeing her infront of his eyes.. Nothing matters.. He thinks eventually without doing anything things will fall into place.. He doesn't even want to register the gravity of the situation.. Isliye jab tak divorce matter bhi directly imlie ko affect nahi karega ye divorce bhi pada rahega..

We do say n want imlie to leave AKT to just throw out Malini.. But if we keep realistic scenarios also in mind.. We can never just walk out of a relationship we believe in n the person we love... We try to make amends, compromise, try till we reach a breaking point.. N i would say ppl even try beyond that.. These two are having a journey n the crux is their communication.. That if they do.. Phir to baat hi khatam..they've had contrived situations before too.. But now what they are showing is not only contrived but more kind of nonsense just for the sake of drag.. They could've started with loop closures with kidnapping track of Imlie and Adi.. But it again comes to the point If Adi came to know about Malini's or AC's involvement in Imlie's kidnapping.. Phir unko Adi ko dimaag lagate hue dikhana padta regarding MC n blasting AC.. Which i dont understand why don't want to address.. Maybe tis baccah drama was already on their minds..

AKT is one weirdo i would say yeah he is taking up responsibility of the kid n showing k bhai haan i deleted that video thinking of that nanhi si jaan but ye iske bas ki baat nahi hai.. He did what he did in impulse without giving it a thought n later realized what he did was wrong. So to cover that guilt up too he wants imlie to let it go.. Other than that neither he is happy nor sad.. He's totally emotionless regarding the baby.. Bas shayad imlie se maafi mil jaaye if i say i did it thinking of the baby he saying it.. Boundaries doesn't exist in imlie land.. Sab ghuse chale aate jaate hai yaha..

One more point after aaj ka epi was imlie ain't leaving nowhere now.. She'll be here very much n getting involved in taking care of the baby n now with even aparna asking her to mom.. This will irritate both BS as he doesn't like to get on 2nd number in imlieya ki priority list.. And Malini to seeing that the card she played to get back into AKTs life is backfiring... Apne ki pair pe kulhadi maar li hai madam ne..

Bas ek last baat.. Jaan basti hai Adi imlie ki Ek dusre mei.. N they're the endgame that I'm sure about baaki kuch ho na ho..

Me swinging like pendulum with this show.. Even my posts too.. Kidar shuru kiya kidar khatam🤣

Juvvi ji! 🤗🤗 Aap khud itna accha likhat hai 😳

You summarized it very well.

@bold: +100. Mujhe bhi last few episodes mein yahi feeling aa rahi thi. Imlie is thinking & talking more about that child than he is. Hai toh yeh banda smart Imlie ko paas rakhne ke mamlon mein, he's seen how sensitive Imlie is towards the child and, in a way, he's using that to justify his actions and mend fences with her. Like you said, Imlie maaf kar de, bas wahin tak baat chal rahi hai.

In any other couple, a child born this way would be the biggest point of friction. Not in adilie. 😆 Adi has figured out that Imlie will do whatever it takes to give the child a normal upbringing, and it's clear to all Imlie doesn't trust Malini to do anything right anymore, even as a mother, so she will stick around for the baby. Do minute Adi ke baare mein na soche, but she will always prioritize the child over them and Malini. Game palat sakta hai Adi par hi, but this attachment Imlie has gives him the security that she won't leave of her own accord. The funny thing is, while I don't condone how he's dealing with the situation, I can see why he is borderline desperate to keep her around and earn her forgiveness the only way the bailbuddhi knows how to. Only Imlie is the kind of woman who would fight for you even after you put her through this hell. Which man wouldn't try to hold on to someone like that? 😆

I will end by saying, 'dhakka de gadi chal' kal tak kahavat thi, aaj Adi ka doosra naam bhi hai. 😡 Ab toh jaag jao gadhe! 😡

Originally posted by: PPak

Whatever ji - loved what you wrote and you bring out lovely points about how maybe the story was intended to be, should be, could have been...but unfortunately is not....at least not explicitly shown. With your interpretation of things I can clearly see the lovely barabari relationship the writers probably intented to create. However we cannot write the script for them and while characterization wise you are bingo on Adi's - the writers have failed to deliver and show this beautiful relationship you have written. I wish I could erase what the maker showed, failed to show etc and re-imagine it - the way you have described Adi from the core characterization thus far. It would resurrect the badly executed portions of Adi's character for me. For now - though I can see your Adi in what they developed till Malini's fake suicide - post that point the Adi you describe has probably existed in intent - but never got executed for us to see and appreciate and further love. Instead we go a poorly written, Malini focussed, blind Adi who does have some decent scenes with Imli but has failed to emote or be the Adi you describe. Writers have a big part - but I do feel Gashmeer could have done better with showing remorse, despair, regret, guilt, hands tied wala claustrophobia ...anything better than the """expressionless zombie look or the 'i don't know whats happening' bewildered little boy look or the lets trivialize the severely toxic situation by saying and doing innane silly & stupid things to get Imlie to move one""". His incorrect reactions are making the relationship appear very unequal, unfair to Imlie and also why most of the viewers are up in arms.

Viewers should not be expected to interpret intention...you can only react based on what we see shown.

Anyway it's frustration again rearing its ugly head. If only writers have stuck to your vision - we would have had a much more wholesome watching experience.

Totally agree with that, for months his facial expressions have been rarely seen, every time the camera pans in on him his face is the same blankness, you cannot tell what he is feeling, even though every other character is expressing Something, his face is just empty. It is very frustrating and, I feel, very bad, giving you no clue as to what Adi is actually feeling at the time or which way he is going to react. This is wrong.

Regarding divorce, Imlie and Adi will not be looking for a Adini divorce now, Imlie especially will not want the baby to appear to be born out of wedlock. We have to forget about divorce coming up - until baby track is done and dusted. If there is a baby - the bigamy will continue until after the baby is born at least and that will be super super cringe. Thats why I also do not think there is a baby. They won't push divorce that far out.

Once makers have milked the baby track - got T's sympathy and appreciation for Imlie/ establish Imlie's position as wife and Malini mother which will irritate her / give Imlie the small compensation of making Malini unhappy with co-parenting solution which she cannot openly argue against because of all her lies and mahaan projection; then makers will threaten her exposure which will trigger fake miscarriage and Imlie blame or NDE. Malini will never plan a miscarriage intentionally as she knows Adi will dump her in a heartbeat...in the long run even if she is successful in putting the blame on Imlie. I hope they don't decide to cover the topic of artificial insemination as well. Given the wide net of areas they bring in for short spurts - it did cross my mind. Malini will go to any lengths for Adi.

I don't know if any of you noticed...earlier Malini used to look hurt or jealous when she saw Adilie together ... nowadays its more calculated planning ... it does not even seen personal any more. It's become more like a game Malini has to win at any cost.

I have great love for the Adi Malini marriage is invalid option and it provides KC the perfect comeuppance to Malini - given she caused him to lose his first case. If it comes to happen - I will be an extremely happy Imlie viewer.