Virat’s state of mind - Page 5

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Agree with all your points. Very well analysed.👏

@bold He always does that....ALWAYS. 😡 It is very, very problematic. Along with this, his equation with Pakhi is something I cannot digest at all. Both these are making the foundation of the relationship shaky - trust. Such a relationship cannot but suffer.

I'm at a loss to understand his relationship with Pakhi. They both behave the same way with each other - invading in each other's personal space with their partners...what kind of relationship is this? I don't want to raise questions ....but I cannot help it.....its is too too abnormal....he seems to feels a strange kinship towards Pakhi. "Pakhi is similar to him in many ways and he is able to relate to her" - This is what I've felt too. Isn't that emotional cheating ...even if he does not mean to do it?

Which is why I tend to mostly side with Sai in this relationship. I don't know what she could have done? Logically if she had handled her own feelings better, she could have cornered him about his relationship with Pakhi, given him an ultimatum. But sometimes I feel that even if she had, unless Virat learns to draw the line in his realtionship with Pakhi....even verbal assurances may not suffice. Am I biased?

I am sorry, I couldn’t reply to many comments today. Have been online on and off. It has been a busy Sunday 😅.

I agree Nethra. I somehow do feel that Sai will have to bear the brunt of it always and that is why I feel that she should walk out.

@bold I am thinking about this quite often these days to try to make sense out if it. Something is missing and I am not quite sure what it is. Once I figure it out, will let you know 😊.

Having said the above, what I am thinking at the moment is yes, he is able to relate to her since she is similar to him but it is because sometimes when we are in pain or when we are wrong, we can relate to someone else who are in similar such situation. What I feel is that he is a guy who doesn’t have control over his emotions and he is probably able to see happening to Pakhi as well. This is what I mean by saying he is able to relate to her. He makes mistakes since he fails to control his emotions and he probably got to realise when Pakhi became too emotional this time and acting desperate that she is also failing to control her emotions. Sometimes, more than the good qualities, we empathise with people who are in the same struggle as us. Him not able to control his emotions is also a struggle he is going through and I think that is why he is sympathising with Pakhi now.

May be once she comes out of this, once she is able to move on, he won’t get into her business. It could him helping her genuinely, as a friend or an acquaintance. I am not sure but just guessing since we aren’t getting a clarity on this at the moment.

You are not biased. Not at all. All that we all want is fairness. If things are going to be unfair for Sai, then one wouldn’t want it obviously. Virat has to draw a line with Pakhi and I think if Sai is able to see that he is just being a friend, she will be okay with it. If she finds something not right, she will always be feeling insecured. It all depends on his behaviour. It will be good for all of them if he changes his attitude towards Pakhi.

Originally posted by: Shaome

Virat is no less than a zombie 🤣..During pooja he was completely dozed off 😆

Jokes apart Neil truly understands Rono more than anyone..One could get the clear picture about his state of mind from pooja..he was looking aimlessly.. There were no life in those eyes..

I understand he extremely hurt.. His behaviour is the culmination of several incident.. He wasn't angry till Sai blasted him in the hotel..But things got worse he had to hear again and again that Sai never can love him.. On top that his transfer cancellation by Sai.. He wouldn't get angry if only Sai had said that she stopped the transfer because she needed him ..

Earlier it was love between SaiRat.. They were growing emotionally attached to each other... But now it has become both desire and love for Virat..so he has taken it in his ego.. He won't sit quite until he gets Sai.. He wants that physical relief in her... Transfer will NOT make much difference to him or it may backfire..

Virat is the product of extremely mysoginistic environment.. He has seen his mother bowing down to the so called family norms and always has been stoic while expressing ..

Though it's unfathomable to me being a cop how can he NOT see through Pakhi's intentions.. He is so self consumed that he is using all the tools to hurt Sai ..As a viewer to me his behaviour coming across so vengeful NOT love.. His ego hurt badly when Sai rejected his bed even though they sleep between a pillow wall..

At this point they should get separated because even after spending so much times still they have no respect for each other.. Virat should learn accept things wholeheartedly.. He will stop involving third party in his relationship.. He had often failed to prove himself a good husband during every testing time.. On the other hand Sai will learn to stop seeing Aaba in everyone whoever is nice to her..

I agree to some points that you have stated but my views are different about a few things.

@bold I am sorry but I disagree. I somehow feel that he would be okay if she stops thinking that he has feelings for Pakhi and if she starts to think that he could be having feelings for her. He also wants her to stop denying feeling anything for him. He hasn’t seen her even trying to consider their marriage. She outrightly denies that they have anything and can have anything too. She dismisses of the idea and I think that is bothering him. Basically he needs to be able to see some hopes that she might consider him as a prospective partner or a lover.

I agree that they should get separated. I see a lot of issues that they might be facing. He has failed during testing times and Pakhi is someone who will always be there between them I guess. The way he can side with anyone when he is upset with Sai is also upsetting. He has failed to protect her many times and he himself has insulted her only because he is upset with her too.

Sai acts too stubborn and doesn’t think much before she speaks. She will have to learn to correct her ways or methods to achieve certain things. She will have to learn that the end results always doesn’t matter, she has to be mindful about the way she achieves it too. At the moment I feel that her growth is all steered towards relationship issues and issues with Pakhi, unwanted arguments. The freedom could be helpful in her to work on her flaws. She is at the moment fighting too many battles. I really wish they show them parting ways.

Originally posted by: Nja91

I agree with nethraa- i do NOT understand his relationship with pp. For how long is he going to feel guilty about her state, hold himself responsible for her happiness, be protective towards her?! Its not like he needs to be protective because she has no other support, she has an army full of it. So why this unecssary bond with pp. I had started to think that post pool/cafe incidents n Sai's accident- he had understood that pp is a psychopath. But hes gone soft on pp again! Does he really believe pp has decided to move on so quickly?! Raaton raat she has moved on from him to Samrat n now shes trying to potray this fake narrative. His equation with Sai aside, does Virat really believe this woman. Because if he does then he really is stupid.

This soft corner, protectiveness, concern for pp no matter how low she goes definitely comes across as dubious.does pp's attention boost his ego so he lets her get away with anything. Or is it that theres still some love there? I dont know what it is- but as long as he cannot get pp to exit his life n his equation with his wife, he cannot fix this situation. And i agree with nethraa that in a sense this harboring a soft corner for his ex lover is emotional infidelity- it would feel like that to any wife in Sais place.

And its his unbelievable soft corner for a woman who has said and done despicable things that makes me no longer empathize with him but firmly support Sai.

@bold I agree

Infact this is the main reason I want them to get divorced.

I feel that he is guilty for the state she is in especially after Samrat returned. Guilt is something one has to get rid of. He should stop blaming himself and stop holding himself responsible for Pakhi’s issues.

Originally posted by: BBFanForever

I wish alongwith other points you mentioned this too. Idk how can one (not you laksh) even be given free-pass saying he's a human & will behave however he wants to for this? How is this even understandable? It's plain abnormal.

https://twitter.com/Oro_phile/status/1438107739452936192?s=19

From what I understand, he just wanted to show that he knew what he was doing. His family seen him supporting Sai most of the times and not take steps like this, so he just wanted to show that he can also be behaving this way and he is cool about it.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

I think the reason for virat giving so much leverage to pakhi is she satisfies his male ego so much by giving him attention. Virat as a person is very much image concious. He loves it when others thinks highly about him,he doesn't care if the other person is morally right or wrong. Had he isn't image concious he would have let pakhi continue misunderstanding him during haldi. That would have solved all problems. Pakhi would have happily married & moved on with samrat had he didn't cleared her misunderstanding. But he not only cleared her misunderstanding but also gave immoral vaada too. And pretend himself as a great sacrificer. When you are not going to marry her & wants her to move on with ur brother then what's the need to confess I love u more than my life. Because he don't want his good image to destroy infront of others. Whenever someone questions pakhi about her equation with him,he jumps on her defense. Because questioning her will lead them to put fingers at him too & they will get to know about his immoral vaada. He wants to erase whatever he did in past with pakhi because he cares about his own image that's why he pretends like someone is lying when they show him reality about his past actions. Not only pakhi he behaves same with other family members too. He barely talks against kaku & other family members even if he doesn't agree with them. Because he knows he has raja beta image infront of them & he will loose it if he talks against them. The reason he never talked against kaku even when she was insulting his mother for all years. Because his own image>>>> his mother's respect. Pakhi boosts his ego so much. That itself is enough for him to give her leverage. Whenever sairat fight she comes in support of him & disses sai. He don't mind her insulting sai because she supports him. Had she supported sai in their fights he would have asked her to stay away just like he did during PD hand holding incident. He don't talk much when she insults sai even if he has in good terms with sai is because he don't want to loose his good image infront of pakhi or any other person. He takes stand only when things go out of control as per him. Talking harshly against pakhi means loosing his good raja beta image infront of her & family members. Because he knows she has strong support from authoritative people in the family. Since childhood he was around people who harps praises of him 24*7. So he will never mind people's disgusting behavior as long they boost his ego.

I agree to many points that you have mentioned.

I am not sure about the male ego part but I think that he is happy with Pakhi, is able to get back with Pakhi because she likes him. It is something like some people like people who like them. It doesn’t matter to them whether how they are to others but as long as they are nice and good to them, they are okay with it. I have always thought why he had to tell Pakhi that he never tried to cheat or why he had to confess his love to Pakhi on her haldi. He didn’t like to be misunderstood obviously. He didn’t like her to form any bad impression about him for sure.

He hardly wants to go against Kaku or anyone since they all like him. It again comes back to the same thing. To him, if they like him, he will like them, like to maintain a balanced equation, a smooth relation with them, doesn’t matter much to him as how they are to others. He doesn’t like any friction to get created in relationships which are going smooth already.

@bold I agree

Originally posted by: laksh

Thanks Asmi.

I didn’t do any analysis as such. As you know already as who asked me to share my views on Virat’s behaviour. This was just a reply to her question. I could see what was happening but I could put across my thoughts in a coherent manner only now.

You know my views about him. I have never felt that he was butchered.

Discipline? Who used it? Am I missing something?

I think the problem with the acting is because the actor is not convinced with the script. I don’t think he would have been comfortable playing it and hence he couldn’t convey it too. I also wonder if the author or even the director could understand the depth of the hurt that the character Virat has for them to even portray it on screen. The story as such gives us so much of details and sequence of events made so much sense to me that I could see what was happening. To some extent Neil did show it in his expressions but it probably wasn’t convincing enough to the audience since whatever we say it is an abuse and even the actors will not be able to do anything that can justify it. The only saviour is his stoic expressions, his lost look, his helplessness which he had showed to Samrat asking him to be understood. If you look at the havan scene where everyone reacted to the fire accident except him who was lost in his own thoughts. All these conveyed a few things at least to me. Again, these are not to justify his actions.

Pakhi says discipline...Virat says Sabak Kaku says lagaam khichna...And he says he was forced to lock her in the room

Did you notice when Samrat was questioning Virat on locking Sai up, when Kaku said haan Virat ne theek nahi kiya...Virat looks shocked that Kaku is going against him.. Someone who has always believed in punishing his wife.. He gets into the team that abuses his wife ,the moment he becomes an abuser...😆

Nothing more can be said ... U have put forward each and every detail. Thanks for this.

My only request with the makers is that they have to have to keep Virat's monologue which helps audience to understand about his thoughts and actions.

Communication is the key to any relationship which is badly missing between Sai and him. They really need to address it.

Your post and your effort to put it all here is commendable and praiseworthy 🤗👏🙌

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Pakhi says discipline...Virat says Sabak Kaku says lagaam khichna...And he says he was forced to lock her in the room

Did you notice when Samrat was questioning Virat on locking Sai up, when Kaku said haan Virat ne theek nahi kiya...Virat looks shocked that Kaku is going against him.. Someone who has always believed in punishing his wife.. He gets into the team that abuses his wife ,the moment he becomes an abuser...😆

Hmm. It is all too messed up. He just doesn’t want to accept that he has been wrong. He is in that phase where he has decided that he is not going to bend this time. He has already convinced himself that he is doing it all so that he tells her that he can also act stubborn.

I did see that Virat looked shocked when Kaku said that. It was as if he didn’t expect that coming from Kaku. He had decided this time and he thought or knew who will be with him and who will be against this action of his. So when Kaku spoke that way, he couldn’t believe it.

Originally posted by: laksh

Hmm. It is all too messed up. He just doesn’t want to accept that he has been wrong. He is in that phase where he has decided that he is not going to bend this time. He has already convinced himself that he is doing it all so that he tells her that he can also act stubborn.

I did see that Virat looked shocked when Kaku said that. It was as if he didn’t expect that coming from Kaku. He had decided this time and he thought or knew who will be with him and who will be against this action of his. So when Kaku spoke that way, he couldn’t believe it.

And he knows Kaku has been mean and extremely insensitive to Sai ..so that way he knows when he is supported by her against Sai... He is certainly going wrong 😆