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Posted: 4 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Agree with all your points. Very well analysed.👏

@bold He always does that....ALWAYS. 😡 It is very, very problematic. Along with this, his equation with Pakhi is something I cannot digest at all. Both these are making the foundation of the relationship shaky - trust. Such a relationship cannot but suffer.

I'm at a loss to understand his relationship with Pakhi. They both behave the same way with each other - invading in each other's personal space with their partners...what kind of relationship is this? I don't want to raise questions ....but I cannot help it.....its is too too abnormal....he seems to feels a strange kinship towards Pakhi. "Pakhi is similar to him in many ways and he is able to relate to her" - This is what I've felt too. Isn't that emotional cheating ...even if he does not mean to do it?


Which is why I tend to mostly side with Sai in this relationship. I don't know what she could have done? Logically if she had handled her own feelings better, she could have cornered him about his relationship with Pakhi, given him an ultimatum. But sometimes I feel that even if she had, unless Virat learns to draw the line in his realtionship with Pakhi....even verbal assurances may not suffice. Am I biased?

Exactly nethraa...I am in sync with you...I fail to understand his relationship with Patralekha..even after he has fallen in love with Sai..It's too abnormal to let it go....And i do feel he needs to be a bit more human when he is angry with Sai... A person locked in a room can go through anything and one won't know... His anger is so detrimental to Sai that it can also cost her..her life and he has not yet realised it...And then he lets Pakhi walks over his wife..and he joins her as well...So even if they are in love and I'm a good relationship the moment they have an issue between them...Pakhi can walk in and Sai would be called out for misbehaving ..while in good days..he would make faces when Pakhi tries to walk over Sai...?? Matlab how does a relationship work that way?

And his apology more than an apology of redemption seems like he does it because that's only how he can get back her in the house..Such anger that I am actually not even in a state to analyse it at all...I have been directly called out biased on this forum to many times and I guess....I was with him when The first manhandling happened...I understood him there..but since then I have just understood...he needs to first deal with anger...before going in a relationship with anyone ..

Edited by asmi_joya - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#32

Virat's anger issues and his equation with Pakhi (the choot he gives his ex to humiliate his wife) are the two most damaging patterns in his relationship with Sai.

As an individual, I understand and empathise with Virat (atleast a lot of times). But as far as his relationship with Sai is concerned, I feel Sai is best left alone.

Edited by nethraa_99 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Virat's anger issues and his equation with Pakhi (the choot he gives his ex to humiliate his wife) are the two most damaging patterns in his relationship with Sai.

As an individual, I understand and empathise with Virat (atleast a lot of times). But as far as his relationship with Sai is concerned, I feel Sai is best left alone.

And also with Patralekha....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I think the reason for virat giving so much leverage to pakhi is she satisfies his male ego so much by giving him attention. Virat as a person is very much image concious. He loves it when others thinks highly about him,he doesn't care if the other person is morally right or wrong. Had he isn't image concious he would have let pakhi continue misunderstanding him during haldi. That would have solved all problems. Pakhi would have happily married & moved on with samrat had he didn't cleared her misunderstanding. But he not only cleared her misunderstanding but also gave immoral vaada too. And pretend himself as a great sacrificer. When you are not going to marry her & wants her to move on with ur brother then what's the need to confess I love u more than my life. Because he don't want his good image to destroy infront of others. Whenever someone questions pakhi about her equation with him,he jumps on her defense. Because questioning her will lead them to put fingers at him too & they will get to know about his immoral vaada. He wants to erase whatever he did in past with pakhi because he cares about his own image that's why he pretends like someone is lying when they show him reality about his past actions. Not only pakhi he behaves same with other family members too. He barely talks against kaku & other family members even if he doesn't agree with them. Because he knows he has raja beta image infront of them & he will loose it if he talks against them. The reason he never talked against kaku even when she was insulting his mother for all years. Because his own image>>>> his mother's respect. Pakhi boosts his ego so much. That itself is enough for him to give her leverage. Whenever sairat fight she comes in support of him & disses sai. He don't mind her insulting sai because she supports him. Had she supported sai in their fights he would have asked her to stay away just like he did during PD hand holding incident. He don't talk much when she insults sai even if he has in good terms with sai is because he don't want to loose his good image infront of pakhi or any other person. He takes stand only when things go out of control as per him. Talking harshly against pakhi means loosing his good raja beta image infront of her & family members. Because he knows she has strong support from authoritative people in the family. Since childhood he was around people who harps praises of him 24*7. So he will never mind people's disgusting behavior as long they boost his ego.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I wish alongwith other points you mentioned this too. Idk how can one (not you laksh) even be given free-pass saying he's a human & will behave however he wants to for this? How is this even understandable? It's plain abnormal.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: BBFanForever

I wish alongwith other points you mentioned this too. Idk how can one (not you laksh) even be given free-pass saying he's a human & will behave however he wants to for this? How is this even understandable? It's plain abnormal.


https://twitter.com/Oro_phile/status/1438107739452936192?s=19

That's why I said he is an walking dead.. A zombie 😆He is unable to sense anything or feel anything.. He will continue to do that until he gets Sai..

His life stands where there is no direction.. It happens with extremely self consumed people and who are NOT clear in head.. His questionable behaviour with Bhabi and lack of clarity would always come between him and his wife.. Shruti track is ahead.. Even then he wouldn't bother to explain anything to Sai....

He will only learn if he is forced to live in the same situation.. That's why separation is needed but makers won't show🤢

Edited by Shaome - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Great analysis laksh...Must have been hard for you considering how the show has been going and how Virat is being portrayed... I guess recently my viewpoints got changed that Virat is being butchered... Seems like he has always been like that only ..when in anger he has no control over his emotions and he seems to have no sense of right and wrong... I cringe at the word discipline used as a replacement for abuse that he did... I have too many instances with my partner where we do tell each other about how one has to work on this aspect...bring discipline in that aspect...Never did I think they could bring discipline this way...but anyway looks like that was the only way to replace "saashan" which was used by Rono originally in the show and he mentioned how no one can stop him from regulating and doing "saashan" on his wife..

Thankyou for writing up this lovely writeup Lakshmi...and it seems this time I failed to see it in Virat...somewhere it lacked...either the director or the actor .This time he did outperform the script..He has been absolutely average in the last three-four episodes... I could not see much that you have mentioned in Virat...as far as performance is concerned ..Dialogues anyway of this show are otherwise...

Thanks Asmi.

I didn’t do any analysis as such. As you know already as who asked me to share my views on Virat’s behaviour. This was just a reply to her question. I could see what was happening but I could put across my thoughts in a coherent manner only now.

You know my views about him. I have never felt that he was butchered.

Discipline? Who used it? Am I missing something?

I think the problem with the acting is because the actor is not convinced with the script. I don’t think he would have been comfortable playing it and hence he couldn’t convey it too. I also wonder if the author or even the director could understand the depth of the hurt that the character Virat has for them to even portray it on screen. The story as such gives us so much of details and sequence of events made so much sense to me that I could see what was happening. To some extent Neil did show it in his expressions but it probably wasn’t convincing enough to the audience since whatever we say it is an abuse and even the actors will not be able to do anything that can justify it. The only saviour is his stoic expressions, his lost look, his helplessness which he had showed to Samrat asking him to be understood. If you look at the havan scene where everyone reacted to the fire accident except him who was lost in his own thoughts. All these conveyed a few things at least to me. Again, these are not to justify his actions.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: basherz

Nicely done & apt analysis Laksh (Lakshmi ?) - taking a neutral view by neither supporting him nor opposing him while presenting your pov. This forum needs more members like you to maintain balance, kudos

Thanks

It is Lakshmi

Edited by laksh - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: basherz

Nicely done & apt analysis Laksh (Lakshmi ?) - taking a neutral view by neither supporting him nor opposing him while presenting your pov. This forum needs more members like you to maintain balance, kudos

Thanks

It is Lakshmi 😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Kudos, you have put this so well. This is exactly the kind of post this forum needs❤️

Agree to your deconstruction of his mind, done brilliantly! You have not just deconstructed his mind but also his actions in an understandable manner. And like you say clearly these are all subject to individual understandings!

Your post is also a beautiful representation of how to present neutral views, opinions and explanations.

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