There is a huge chasm between what is deserved and what actually is done... sadly 😭
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There is a huge chasm between what is deserved and what actually is done... sadly 😭
Originally posted by: AnushkhaA
There is a huge chasm between what is deserved and what actually is done... sadly 😭
Yes , so true !!
lets wait and hope the cvs surprise us or will it be Raghav once again who will come out of this, undergoing all the turmoil ,to be what Pallavi expects him to be
have you written on AISHA ? i am unable to find it
yes of corse i recollect
Originally posted by: joliefemme
I agree with a lot of things you've said (barring the mytho ones coz I'm clueless). Raghav still bears the cross of his family's deaths. He needs to realise he won't be able to take any more such crosses just because he wants to earn more wealth and power. I get where the drives comes from, it's deep sated psychological trauma from his childhood that he's the way he is. This track will make him realise that the ones that truly love him care for his safety and well being and don't give a rats ass about his wealth.
He needs to mend ways that impact his family and can continue the rest of the crocked ways because making him completely white may not go with his character traits. I'm excited to see how they transform Raghav and what he ends up being. The love and support of his family will help him with the transformation. It is going to test their love and their relationship but ishq hi raahein itni aasan kahan hai?.
Guys, I'm sorry for being wrong on the mythological aspects. I hope no one feels offended as that is not my intention.
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gonna add on to your bit here Ren:
I do agree -
He was abandoned by his mother at 17. He relied on his drive to succeed to survive and not be destitute. It's a crutch for him now - his wealth, his business, etc. It's what kept him going for 10 years. It's not just about money or wealth for him. It's his survival tactic. Like you said, it's a deeply rooted issue.
What is Raghav without his business and wealth? He doesn't know himself because for the past 10 years he's been alone, with just his business/money, and occasionally Farhad. Farhad is probably the only one that knows the importance of Raghav's business to Raghav.
And while we can all sit and say family matters more, and it does to Raghav, and in the end he'll make the right decisions, we can't disregard his dependence on his business/career for his own survival and own well-being (not saying your post said that - just adding on to it). Not everyone can sit and twiddle their thumbs all day long. *cough* Sunny *cough* A lot of people need to be fulfilled by their career to be happy, a lot of people need to earn money to be happy. That's not necessarily a greed they're fulfilling, but a desire to be successful. We all have our inner desires for ourselves and I hope the writers don't diminish that just to make him turn around be like "oh money is not important to me anymore". Like, he doesn't need to be that white washed, if that makes any sense.
I just hope they don't completely ignore that its actually ok to have that drive to be successful, its ok to have that drive to earn money, to have money etc. It's just as Pallavi always says/implies, the way he goes about doing it needs to be amended because it affects others.
@bold:
gonna add on to your bit here Ren:
I do agree -
He was abandoned by his mother at 17. He relied on his drive to succeed to survive and not be destitute. It's a crutch for him now - his wealth, his business, etc. It's what kept him going for 10 years. It's not just about money or wealth for him. It's his survival tactic. Like you said, it's a deeply rooted issue.
What is Raghav without his business and wealth? He doesn't know himself because for the past 10 years he's been alone, with just his business/money, and occasionally Farhad. Farhad is probably the only one that knows the importance of Raghav's business to Raghav.
And while we can all sit and say family matters more, and it does to Raghav, and in the end he'll make the right decisions, we can't disregard his dependence on his business/career for his own survival and own well-being (not saying your post said that - just adding on to it). Not everyone can sit and twiddle their thumbs all day long. *cough* Sunny *cough* A lot of people need to be fulfilled by their career to be happy, a lot of people need to earn money to be happy. That's not necessarily a greed they're fulfilling, but a desire to be successful. We all have our inner desires for ourselves and I hope the writers don't diminish that just to make him turn around be like "oh money is not important to me anymore". Like, he doesn't need to be that white washed, if that makes any sense.
I just hope they don't completely ignore that its actually ok to have that drive to be successful, its ok to have that drive to earn money, to have money etc. It's just as Pallavi always says/implies, the way he goes about doing it needs to be amended because it affects others.
I agree with everything you said Fria. I also get why Raghav wants the money. My limited point was right now the way things are and the way Raghav is, he's going to feel the burden of the guilt on his head. It won't let him sleep peacefully.
He has to decide what he wants to give up. The need for his power and wealth or having a peaceful and content life.
Just an anecdote here, I was a very ambitious person until 3 to 4 yrs back. When I sat back and started reflecting, I wasn't happy. I realised that growing the ladders at work isnt giving me happiness. I wanted time for myself, my family, a little less stressful and more fulfilled life. I don't know if I'm making sense to u. Your life experiences can change your beliefs and your dreams and aspirations.
Raghav isn't the same 17 yr old boy who was abandoned. He has his family with him now and he needs to adapt. He needs to chose a safe way to conduct his business because it something were to happen to Raghav I can't even imagine what would happen to Pallavi.
have you written on AISHA ? i am unable to find it
yes of corse i recollect
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Originally posted by: joliefemme
I agree with everything you said Fria. I also get why Raghav wants the money. My limited point was right now the way things are and the way Raghav is, he's going to feel the burden of the guilt on his head. It won't let him sleep peacefully.
He has to decide what he wants to give up. The need for his power and wealth or having a peaceful and content life.
Just an anecdote here, I was a very ambitious person until 3 to 4 yrs back. When I sat back and started reflecting, I wasn't happy. I realised that growing the ladders at work isnt giving me happiness. I wanted time for myself, my family, a little less stressful and more fulfilled life. I don't know if I'm making sense to u. Your life experiences can change your beliefs and your dreams and aspirations.
Raghav isn't the same 17 yr old boy who was abandoned. He has his family with him now and he needs to adapt. He needs to chose a safe way to conduct his business because it something were to happen to Raghav I can't even imagine what would happen to Pallavi.
@bold
I somehow think he needs to be reminded that often. For a person who only knows how to give love and give it till he is bled dry, not experiencing any care or affection since a tumulous and painful ten years, constantly demeaned and humiliated and having his heart broken..... it is very difficult to accept the fact that someone can love him so much that his ruin might destroy another human being.
He needs someone to tell him that again, a few times more, drill that into his thick skull... that now his life his not solely his own. His suicidal tendencies as we have seen... ready to shoot Mandaar and get a life imprisonment sentence, ready to shoot himself dead... just proves that he has no qualms about throwing his life away for the one he loves so desperately.
Arre, koi usse bhi toh bataye ki him dying would automatically kill the very person he is trying to save. He doesn't do it intentionally. That's how these past ten years have made him. Self destructive and no hope for receiving love in the amount he can give.
If only someone could make him understand that, he'll stop taking such huge risks --- obsession, survival tactic, desire, passion or not.
Originally posted by: AnushkhaA
@bold
I somehow think he needs to be reminded that often. For a person who only knows how to give love and give it till he is bled dry, not experiencing any care or affection since a tumulous and painful ten years, constantly demeaned and humiliated and having his heart broken..... it is very difficult to accept the fact that someone can love him so much that his ruin might destroy another human being.
He needs someone to tell him that again, a few times more, drill that into his thick skull... that now his life his not solely his own. His suicidal tendencies as we have seen... ready to shoot Mandaar and get a life imprisonment sentence, ready to shoot himself dead... just proves that he has no qualms about throwing his life away for the one he loves so desperately.
Arre, koi usse bhi toh bataye ki him dying would automatically kill the very person he is trying to save. He doesn't do it intentionally. That's how these past ten years have made him. Self destructive and no hope for receiving love in the amount he can give.
If only someone could make him understand that, he'll stop taking such huge risks --- obsession, survival tactic, desire, passion or not.
You know Pallavi did reprimand him after he pulled the Mandar killing drama. She told him how stupid he was being right? But considering his insecurities and his abandonment issues, she needs to be more persistent in letting him know. The issue is also that Pallavi isn't very vocal and less expressive in comparison. I hated that they didn't address this issue in detail after the mandar chapter was over. They should have spoken how he was willing to kill himself without thinking how she would live without him.
I guess her not leaving him in this track may give him hopes that she loves him to a point not to leave him (my friend says that Raghav will compel her to stay but I want her to stay back of her own accord coz he will die if she leaves and she knows that).
This track will hopefully give him some sort of confidence that Pallavi is in this relationship for good and will never give up on them. Afterall his mom abandoned him and if Pallavi doesn't that gives him some kind of assurance right?
My thoughts are all over the place because this situation is too subjective and complex to break down.
Originally posted by: AnushkhaA
@bold
I somehow think he needs to be reminded that often. For a person who only knows how to give love and give it till he is bled dry, not experiencing any care or affection since a tumulous and painful ten years, constantly demeaned and humiliated and having his heart broken..... it is very difficult to accept the fact that someone can love him so much that his ruin might destroy another human being.
He needs someone to tell him that again, a few times more, drill that into his thick skull... that now his life his not solely his own. His suicidal tendencies as we have seen... ready to shoot Mandaar and get a life imprisonment sentence, ready to shoot himself dead... just proves that he has no qualms about throwing his life away for the one he loves so desperately.
Arre, koi usse bhi toh bataye ki him dying would automatically kill the very person he is trying to save. He doesn't do it intentionally. That's how these past ten years have made him. Self destructive and no hope for receiving love in the amount he can give.
If only someone could make him understand that, he'll stop taking such huge risks --- obsession, survival tactic, desire, passion or not.
I agree - Till now Raghav has learned only on how to give up his life for the ones he loves because he doesn't feel worthy of their love. Now Pallavi is the one who loves him unconditionally and anything happening to him will break her like anything. I guess this track is going to show Raghav what he is risking for wealth. He has a beautiful wife who loves him so deeply that she will not survive if anything were to happen to him. And his mother will also break down if he were to get hurt so it is really not worth to take these kind of risks.
Till now Raghav was able to do his business in crooked ways by evading customs because no one got hurt but now one young life was lost because of his tactics. Is he willing to go on this path knowing that ACP laxmi might be equally ruthless if another courier person of Raghav is caught. Raghav cannot continue this - i hope his conscience wouldn't allow him to do this anymore.
Yes I don't want Raghav to be all white - Let him be ruthless to his enemies, to Sunny if he ends up hurting Keerti or worst Pallavi, To anyone who threatens his family but he better not risk any other innocent person's lives in his greed to save few lakhs.