Stop Comparing Love! [Ft. Raghav & Pallavi]

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I am sick and tired of people comparing Raghav and Pallavi's extent of love for each other. Love cannot be measured. You cannot say who loves whom the most. This is the basic fundamental of love. Its incomparable and immeasurable.


And how are people saying Pallavi loves Raghav any less? I think we all have forgotten she had the worst experiences of her life because of Raghav's involvement in a way. Agreed that every person had their own agenda and used Pallavi's inherent goodness to suit their purpose including the Deshmukhs. But Raghav was the one who had harrassed her within an inch of her life initially. Whatever be the reason!


We are conviniently forgetting that Pallavi fell in love with the man who had given her ample reasons to hate him. Im not telling that Raghav got it easy. Lord knows the man had to work twice as hard to earn it. And earn it he did. He has earned every single drop of love, care, respect, adoration and devotion Pallavi bestowes him with. If there is the biggest reason why I love RR, it's because he doesn't shy away from his mistakes and goes to any length to correct them.


So donot think that I am telling Pallavi had no reason to love him. But do you all think it prudent to constantly berate the poor woman for her each action. And the thing which had me most stunned was this misplaced sense of gratefulness.


From when did gratitude start becoming a stalwart of love? I believe gratitude is like that hidden rotten piece of apple in a fruit salad. There isn't any scope in true love for you to feel grateful to your partner for anything. Yes, you must appreciate their efforts and make sure they feel loved and special but there shouldn't be any gratitude in there. I don't think Pallavi has any reason to feel grateful to Raghav and neither should the vice versa be required.


The beauty of love is only when you adore a person despite their flaws which both Raghav and Pallavi possess. Raghav's temper, impulsiveness and headstrongness and Pallavi's misplaced sense of gratitude to the Deshmukhs, righteous stubbornness and rigidity. But the point stands they love each other anyway. Both have made numerous mistakes in their relationship but they have learnt from it and are still in love.


I can't see why do we always sit in judgement of who loves the other more. Pallavi has given her trial of love many times. She has stood beside her husband even when she had no reason to trust him and plenty of evidence against him, she had helped him reconcile with his mother, we have seen her cry with him, at his ache. I mean heck! The woman stood with him, even after knowing he would take the side of the person who apparantly murdered her former husband, turned her into a widow. She went to jail with him, she was adamant not to let him rott for his sister's crime. She doesn't need to prove her love anymore. Atleast I don't think so. Infact I feel no one needs to prove their affection.


Raghav has done the same for her. He has protected her time and again, bend to her wishes, tried to change himself, constantly swallowed humiliation and disrespect from the Deshmukhs for her sake, went as far to actually drink the water after washing her so called father's feet.


And as for Pallavi's thick headed behavior regarding Mandaar, yes she hurt him. I will not justify her behavior. But she has atoned for it in her own way. She has suffered without him equally. But that doesn't mean she deserved the treatment metted out to her. That cannot be justified.


I say why can't we leave it. He hurt her. She hurt him. They're square!


Coming to the next point. Yes, the dialogue of the cook being more creepy than Mandaar irked all of the fandom butttt guyyyyzzzzz! Pallavi has no idea who the man is.. only the audience knows. And like love, I don't think we can compare creepiness as well. It is not a physical quantity again. I think the one who is creepy or disgusting is completely so.. there is no little or more - atleast in this context. So yes the dialogue was wrong but not for the reason people are telling.


Infact I think we all should be happy that Pallavi feels him creepy. She is married. She loves her husband. She cannot dream of touching anyone else, neither can she dream of letting anyone else either see or touch her in that way except him. She is absolutely right to get creeped out by the cook. I would get creeped out too if a stranger with an eyepatch and a face mask keeps giving me the looks. So that point's moot.


So as I sign off I'm sorry to say I was frankly disappointed and mostly appalled at the things some of the people are saying here. This is not expected of a progressive generation like us. The toxicity is becoming tiring honestly.


PS:- This is not a personal dig at anyone. I'm sorry if anyone got offended. But I just had to say something.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Love ...... I don't know anything about love but what I do know is people who judge and make opinion on love are the ones who have never understood love....ye vahi log hai jo kal ko apne bacchon se puchenge ki beta tum kisse zyada pyaar karte ho Mummy ya Papa but when the said child will ask the same question to their parents ki aap log kisse zyada pyaar karte ho bhayiya/Didi ya mujhse.....then child will get lectures ya phir maar bhi par sakti hai for asking something so bad to the parents.....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thank you for making sensible and balanced post ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This post is so apt. There is not a single thing you've written that I disagree with. You have squarely covered and addressed all the important points.


This forum is super toxic but I think it is only a few solo stans who constantly spread the negativity. I feel posts like yours need to be made more often to balance out the toxicity.


Coming to the topic at hand, yes, both Raghvi love each other equally. Both have flaws, both have made mistakes, repented, accepted the other and have moved on. People should too.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This post was really needed.

On the other hand bhai Mandar tu time nikal ke suicide kar hi le yaar...tere vajah se hi log jab dekho Pallu ko suna rahe hai.

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Thank you so much for making this post. This needed to be said. ❤️

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Originally posted by: Mihika

Love ...... I don't know anything about love but what I do know is people who judge and make opinion on love are the ones who have never understood love....ye vahi log hai jo kal ko apne bacchon se puchenge ki beta tum kisse zyada pyaar karte ho Mummy ya Papa but when the said child will ask the same question to their parents ki aap log kisse zyada pyaar karte ho bhayiya/Didi ya mujhse.....then child will get lectures ya phir maar bhi par sakti hai for asking something so bad to the parents.....

Itna sara judgement

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Posted: 4 years ago
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This post is so apt!!

Just because of some small unnecessary points people are taking a dig at Pallavi and not understanding her side as well. Both Raghav and Pallavi love each other and that is unconditional because it had gone through the furnace of hatred hence its stronger than any other romantic love!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnushkhaA

I am sick and tired of people comparing Raghav and Pallavi's extent of love for each other. Love cannot be measured. You cannot say who loves whom the most. This is the basic fundamental of love. Its incomparable and immeasurable.


The comparison makes no sense to me either. It's essentially like comparing apples and potatoes. Raghav and Pallavi are two individuals who are in a mutually loving and respectful relationship. Baat khatam. Gone is the age-old ITV stereotype where the FL is a saint and therefore must prove her love for her husband by becoming a sacrificial lamb. Once she does so, then the ML must be oh-so-grateful to her and for her. Kab tak chalegi yeh bakwaas?! We've been fed this notion all along and that's why we're voicing it as a concern when we no longer see it. We need to unlearn what we were shown and taught, that will be one baby step in the right direction.


We are conviniently forgetting that Pallavi fell in love with the man who had given her ample reasons to hate him. Im not telling that Raghav got it easy. Lord knows the man had to work twice as hard to earn it. And earn it he did. He has earned every single drop of love, care, respect, adoration and devotion Pallavi bestowes him with. If there is the biggest reason why I love RR, it's because he doesn't shy away from his mistakes and goes to any length to correct them.


SAME. That is what I adore about Raghav and frankly the only bit that keeps me hooked to this show.


From when did gratitude start becoming a stalwart of love? I believe gratitude is like that hidden rotten piece of apple in a fruit salad. There isn't any scope in true love for you to feel grateful to your partner for anything. Yes, you must appreciate their efforts and make sure they feel loved and special but there shouldn't be any gratitude in there. I don't think Pallavi has any reason to feel grateful to Raghav and neither should the vice versa be required.


I'm all for gratitude, actually. Nobody minds hearing a quick and loving thank you, but for that the couple needs to engage in a solid conversation for more than 3 minutes. Raghav and Pallavi used to have plenty of heartfelt conversations back in their apartment and easily managed to convey their appreciation, gratitude, hurt, and anger to each other. Lately they're barely chatting for more than 30 seconds a week, so how can they possibly express their innermost feelings and thoughts. Eye-locks and facial expressions aren't plausible every single time. Aankhon ki gustaakhiyan is bullsh!t in my opinion - I've given my partner a look in plenty of public settings and he's had absolutely no idea what I'm trying to convey 😆.


That being said, I should specify that I understand feeling grateful to your partner for their actions, however big or small they may be, but certainly not for their presence. I feel that a fair bit of viewers are expecting Pallavi to be utterly grateful for Raghav's existence, which I don't find necessary at all! That's extremely pathetic, in fact. Who else would be her pillar of strength and support if not her husband? Why should she excessively thank him for simply being himself? Sure, that conversation is warranted once in a while, when they're both feeling high on emotions and are going through a bout of self-reflection, but it's certainly not warranted every time he shows up for her and vice-versa, every time she shows up for him. As a couple, they signed up to show up for each other, it's not a big deal and absolutely not worth applauding time and again.


Pallavi's misplaced sense of gratitude to the Deshmukhs is a major pain point and will also make for a really interesting track if the makers choose to experiment in that avenue. Pallavi needs to step away from their toxicity and no better person than Raghav to help her arrive at that realization. As a couple, they can totally support each other by such means instead of literally and physically fighting off evil.


I say why can't we leave it. He hurt her. She hurt him. They're square!


Exactly that! They'll effectively keep running laps around the same circle if they're constantly trying to level-up their love and affection in comparison to each other. Relationships don't function that way. Not the healthy ones anyway. It's exhausting to keep going the extra mile to show and tell how much you love your partner. It's far more heartwarming and natural to engage in small day-to-day gestures (ie. when Pallavi baked a protein cake for Raghav) instead of elaborate theatrics.


Infact I think we all should be happy that Pallavi feels him creepy. She is married. She loves her husband. She cannot dream of touching anyone else, neither can she dream of letting anyone else either see or touch her in that way except him. She is absolutely right to get creeped out by the cook. I would get creeped out too if a stranger with an eyepatch and a face mask keeps giving me the looks. So that point's moot.


Totally agree! She didn't recognize him and sure, we don't know whether she's pranking him or not, but how does it matter?! I think the folks that are upset over this are still caught up in the typical Bollywood and ITV notions of recognizing your partner's breath, touch, and strand of hair. I hate to break it to all of us, even myself, but that simply isn't reality.


So as I sign off I'm sorry to say I was frankly disappointed and mostly appalled at the things some of the people are saying here. This is not expected of a progressive generation like us. The toxicity is becoming tiring honestly.


I think I'm still unaware of the toxicity on the forum that a lot of members are harping on about. I don't see it as much and that could be because I'm not active on any major threads, I just pop in to read stories and comment on posts I catch during my office hours. 😆


It's safe to say that we're all mostly suffering from a case of pent up frustration. MHRW started off with a bang and set the bar so damn high that we're not able to fathom anything less than exceptional - whether it's in the storyline or in the performances. I'm on that same boat too. I vent endlessly about what doesn't make sense to me and what doesn't align with the theme of the show, but I've also noted that everything magically went downhill since the extension was issued. Bottom line: the production house is at the channel's mercy. The show will inevitably drag through plenty of Star Plus-esque tracks, the sooner we all accept that, the better it will be for us.



P.S. Can I give you "gratitude" as a prompt? I'm curious to see how you'd frame a story around that - perhaps Pallavi finally realizing that she doesn't owe her life and happiness to the Deshmukhs and maybe Raghav could watch from the sidelines as his Saree Ka Dukaan finally comes to her own? Just a thought!

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