Any Afganis here? - Page 19

Originally posted by: Arsalan_khan

political gains asides , its the win win situation at both end be it for pak or for afghan ...now afghan is a free state , free of being under US military turmoil , free of external invasion and trust me taliban never been a threat to afghan as much as the US military was its been 20 years of war agaisnt US army and now they succeeded , u are seeing the side which the media shows and not the neutral part ..imagine india or pakistan and for that matter any country been under 20 years of US invasion how would it looked like its almost like when east indian company invaded back in times ,,,, Afghanistan break the chain of slavery of unwanted invasion of amercia which lasted for 20 years

then why do you think people there are so desperate to leave and living under fear ? Look at the airport situation . As per your narrative shouldn’t they be celebrating ? Why did prez fled the country ? Afghans don’t want either America or Taliban . Just coz you are US hater you can’t go on supporting Taliban knowing the kind of atrocities they did and will do in future . Let’s all pray for the people in Afghanistan and hope they see some light at the end of this dark tunnel .

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

Can't the people of Afghanistan organise a mass uprising against the Taliban?

There was protests and they were marching against the Taliban. But the Taliban is far more powerful with their weapons and barbaric methods. The people can only do so much. Majority of the civilians are extremely poor. Without the support of the military and government, there isn’t much that can be done.

Originally posted by: Arsalan_khan

all these things u mentioned could happen any where .....recently in islamabad an elite class murderer Zahid jafar beheaded her girlfriend and caught on the spot and now is in jail for brutally murdering her and she also belonged to elite class who were american national holders ....why to single out only them when u are entirely facing such things in the world under democracy

this is the story of an elite class a US nationality holder and not of any evils like talibans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-6oGknwZlU

The Taliban is IN POWER. They will rape and kill women FREELY and with laws being on their side. They will make LAWS which legitimize the suffering of women. Is it so, so damned difficult for you to understand?

Please focus on your Sonu Nigam. Unless you want to trade your citizenship with an Afghan that would rather be in your place, then by all means go to Afghanistan and see for yourself the generosity of the Taliban.

I find it pathetic that you consider Taliban occupation positive, but yet would never opt to have them elected as your government. Unless you’re willing to live and co-exist with them yourself, don’t wish it upon others.

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

Please focus on your Sonu Nigam. Unless you want to trade your citizenship with an Afghan that would rather be in your place, then by all means go to Afghanistan and see for yourself the generosity of the Taliban.

I find it pathetic that you consider Taliban occupation positive, but yet would never opt to have them elected as your government. Unless you’re willing to live and co-exist with them yourself, don’t wish it upon others.

I must commend you for being so civil. I would've earned at least three warning levels by now. Seriously. 🤣

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

I must commend you for being so civil. I would've earned at least three warning levels by now. 😆

I wouldn’t be so civil in person. 😆

I’m trying to keep my cool since I don’t want this thread to close lol.

Originally posted by: Mahisa_22

It's a tricky situation. The USA has always acted on its own interests as far as history shows; it was also instrumental in creating the Taliban. So can't exactly laud it for being some liberating saint. At the same time, they are the only hope to clear up the mess that they had a role in the first place.

I get it. The U.S. played a lot of dirty games during Cold War. But the problem is not one-sided is what I'm saying. A lot of nations around the world do ask for U.S. intervention, then it's oh, they're invaders. Look at Iraq. They were celebrating when Saddam fell. Soon after, attacks started on the troops. At the end of the day, there are real people who send their sins and daughters to fight for someone else. After the decades of being maligned, the population has lost its appetite for such missions.

I mean, calling Taliban a U.S. creation (not you) is a bit blinkered when the locals joined the Mujahideen as reaction to Soviet invasion. The U.S. supported them with money BECAUSE there was call for U.S. intervention against the Red Army. Someone said Mujahideen later became Taliban. But Taliban itself was created in the 90s after the U.S. left. Ie, the U.S. was asked to intervene, then maligned for the same.

Originally posted by: Arsalan_khan

all these things u mentioned could happen any where .....recently in islamabad an elite class murderer Zahid jafar beheaded her girlfriend and caught on the spot and now is in jail for brutally murdering her and she also belonged to elite class who were american national holders ....why to single out only them when u are entirely facing such things in the world under democracy

this is the story of an elite class a US nationality holder and not of any evils like talibans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-6oGknwZlU

There is huge difference between one isolated case and an reign of absolute terror. The entire country is in uproar because of this incident. Do you think Afghans will have the freedom to protest against Murders of their daughters.

Do you remember the hadith Arslan, that only wish for others what you are willing to accept for yourself..

Are you willing to live under Taliban regime?

If so then OK, I can't comprehend it but I will accept it because I believe in freedom of choice but if you are not willing to live under it than do not try to justify the regime which is likely to cause immense pain to humanity.

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

I wouldn’t be so civil in person. 😆

I’m trying to keep my cool since I don’t want this thread to close lol.

I would probably be arrested for physical assault in person if I were in your place. 😆

Originally posted by: FingerFetish

There was protests and they were marching against the Taliban. But the Taliban is far more powerful with their weapons and barbaric methods. The people can only do so much. Majority of the civilians are extremely poor. Without the support of the military and government, there isn’t much that can be done.

Besides it, I think presently Afghan society is too fragmented to unify and put up resistance.