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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agree with what you have written.

Don’t know the reason they have dumbed down Pallavi so much. When she has decided not to give importance to VD after the leg washing episode then why make a promise to him.
Her characterization is so poor & inconsistent in this track I don’t know how they will redeem her.

Also which mil allows her daughter in law to stay in the ex husbands house. Jaya needs to stop enabling Pallavi. We know that Raghav is already so pissed with whole situation. In fact I blame him too. He should have mentioned his misgivings about her staying in the VD house more forcefully.

Pallavi needs a reality check & soon. I hope it is not mandar who gives her that then the blame of this whole track will be on him & she will come out unscathed.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: preethik

Agree with what you have written.

Don’t know the reason they have dumbed down Pallavi so much. When she has decided not to give importance to VD after the leg washing episode then why make a promise to him.
Her characterization is so poor & inconsistent in this track I don’t know how they will redeem her.

Also which mil allows her daughter in law to stay in the ex husbands house. Jaya needs to stop enabling Pallavi. We know that Raghav is already so pissed with whole situation. In fact I blame him too. He should have mentioned his misgivings about her staying in the VD house more forcefully.

Pallavi needs a reality check & soon. I hope it is not mandar who gives her that then the blame of this whole track will be on him & she will come out unscathed.

very easy … mandar will do some stupidity… she will give him a long lecture and then Raghav sb bhool bhool.. because in this show Pallavi got a free pass as mahanta ki devi…

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: d.padmini

I understand they want to keep mandaar back story a suspense , fair enough...I also understand they wanted mandar to be strong enough to stand against raghav Rao's persona..but in the process of glorifying him they completely butchered raghav and Pallavi who are the USP of the show...Raghav and Pallavi have been shown to be smart and intelligent for almost 100-125 episodes and suddenly if they are shown dumb and spineless...it's difficult to digest...


Yehi na! There is also no need to glorify Mandaar. Ashok is an incredible actor, I haven't seen any of his previous work and yet I loved him in MHRW since his first scene. Glorify toh tab karein if the actor is lacking and so the character needs a bit of a push. You want to introduce a male antagonist or hell, a male parallel lead? You cast him accordingly, etch his character to perfection, and watch his performance take off like a rocket. Ashok's acting has so much more potential but he's been reduced to nothing but an obsessive lunatic. Itna toh main bhi kar sakti hoon.


Agreed with everything else you said too, just kept the part I wanted to add on to!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: manisha.8148

Mujhe NHI lgta ki they cut the pallvi mandar Saturday precap scene ...there is a possibility when mandar and

AAI are on terrace and AAI smja rhi ho mandar KO tab mandar k FB mein ye scene Aaye ki pallvi mere liye to ab Kuch NHI kregi pr upni AAI k liye Kuch BHI Kar jyegi and he pushed AAI from terrace....baki all upto cvs

I think they should show it as a flashback. Would be quite effective and would explain why he ended up hurting Ayi. 😡

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ILTHBEB

I don't know how much sickand has understood where exact problem in this track! Mandar as 3rd wheel as villain is not exact problem. Main problem is in pallavi role. Cvs have completely failed to keep balance pallavi between her relationship with ragahv & whatever relationship with Mandar & d family. People won't ever connect pallavi's unconditional & illogical love for d family because in real sense the connection cvs have shown between pallavi & d family it's quite unconvincing. So I hope before showing raghavi as team cvs should show that pallavi understands that she has behaved very insensitive & unfair with ragahv as his wife to give unnecessary too much priority to mandar & d family. Otherwise raghavi as team won't give any enjoyment while watching.

I want Raghav to start investigating first (maybe with Farhad's help), show Pallavi some proofs and then see her light bulb to on before having team Raghvi come up. She will keep accusing Raghav of overreacting or not doing his farz otherwise.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: masin


Hum toh kuch na kuch kehte hi rehte hain, if you so badly want to fulfil our wishes then at least take a minute to understand what they are. The issue isn't Mandaar's entry, the issue is what became of Pallavi after Mandaar's entry. The issue is Mandaar's creepy behaviour that took two years to resurface. The issue is VD's demands and Pallavi's compliance to his demands. The issue is Raghav chasing after the woman he loves for the wrong reasons. Raghav isn't a chaser. Last time he chased Pallavi was when he realized he had wronged her and he wanted one last chance before she took off for Kolhapur. This time Raghav isn't wrong and yet his justified anger is being labelled as his insecurity. Those are the problems.

This is a perfect summary of where the writing has gone off track. I totally agree with all you've said here.

Yes, using terms like insecurity and farz but not justifying them or using them incorrectly is what's triggering the audience and confusing them. Especially the insecurity part because it almost felt like Amma's and Pallavi's words forced him to call himself a loser and insecure (which was shocking to watch because it made no sense). He wasn't insecure, he was worried for her safety and that she'd be manipulated by the Ds and guess what? That's EXACTLY what happened. Raghav has always been a great judge of character so making him seem like he's being unfair to Pallavi is just not done. And yes, he's not a chaser. He believes in giving his wife her space and respecting her decisions but he also has a limit to his patience. He's never been the kind of husband to talk about his rights as a husband or her responsibilities as a wife but when Pallavi demands that he fulfil his pati ka farz, no wonder it triggered him. The writers need to go back and watch the old episodes in case they've forgotten how they'd set up the characters in the first place.

If after all this they blame Mandaar 100% for Pallavi's actions without showing any realization on her part followed by resolve to not repeat this, then it will be hard to accept it. Just doesn't make sense.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: fria319


It’s unbearable bc although I’ve always thought Pallavi was self righteous with a savior complex, I never thought I’d see her like this. Her now almost constant expectation for Raghav to fix everything is getting hard to watch - she’s being portrayed as if she has no fault in any of this. That her sense of kartavya and insaaniyat should give her carte blanche to do whatever she wants with whoever she wants.


During Mangalgauri a lot of people had issues with the fact that Pallavi was just standing there and not going up to Raghav (right before hug scene). I had defended her saying clearly she was unsure of what to do bc she was unsure of his temper/feelings. Now I still think she was unsure of what to do but part of me now thinks she was unsure bc she thought it was all still Raghavs fault. That she was still upset over the tracker - forget how she was the one who decided to leave. So how could she be the one who initiated anything first ? We saw her hand fist up but she didn’t move.


I really didn’t expect this of Pallavi but it’s pretty disappointing.

@bold I felt the same way too. Raghav has always been on the backfoot since the marriage and has been extra cautious not to hurt her if possible. She's had the upper hand with him being needy. I don't see her being unable to breathe without him around the way he clearly can't. (I ask myself why?!) It's always him trying to appease her, walk on eggshells around her, be understanding of her maayka issues, etc. That's why she demands that he should have picked her up or taken her home, even though she's the one who made that vow to Sanki after she walked out of RR mansion with Sanki while telling her husband off in front of Sanki, something that not only was in the wrong context but gave Sanki the satisfaction to see the cracks in their relationship.


There's no problem with farz and insaaniyat as long as it's done for the right reason and right people. She's blind in her love for the Ds, fine but don't make lofty promises to your new family if you can't live up to them. Initially people were saying that she was taking Amma and Raghav for granted and I wasn't so sure but now it's looking like that unfortunately.

Writers had better show a proper transition with her realization and resolve to work on things instead of overnight showing her change in behavior, because that wouldn't be convincing.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: d.padmini

Well said...👏👏

The thing is in greed of getting more trps, may be pressure from the channel too..he introduced mandaar track without a proper build up ...

I understand they want to keep mandaar back story a suspense , fair enough...I also understand they wanted mandar to be strong enough to stand against raghav Rao's persona..but in the process of glorifying him they completely butchered raghav and Pallavi who are the USP of the show...Raghav and Pallavi have been shown to be smart and intelligent for almost 100-125 episodes and suddenly if they are shown dumb and spineless...it's difficult to digest...

Come to think of it, the don of Hyderabad , who has police , law in his pocket, helplessly searching his wife in the entire city , he tracked Sunny's phone , tracked down BWA but he is not even thinking about investing about the doctor, Yes he did investigate about mandar but there are so many things which he could have done using his Power, which he always did and suddenly he looks powerless...

And Pallavi.. every girl is born with a sixth sense , a girl will definitely know when a man is touching her with wrong intention, how come she doesn't...she has always seen through raghav facade , be it when he was taking blame of the accident or when VD was accusing him..then how come suddenly she is not able to see through Raghav's insecurities, his fear and more so understand his pain and suffering..

Mandaar irrespective of weather he is an imposter or real, whether he is faking or actually lost his memory, is being creepy without a reason, had they shown few scenes with other family members, had they atleast given us some insight on why he is after pallavi, he is in love with her or wants to avenge raghav...that it would have made some sense...but suddenly a random guy comes and does all creepy stuff without any apparent reason..looks odd and Unrelatable...

This is where the show started going down and we started getting disconnected from the show...

We know that they cannot show Romance all the time, we don't want that either....villian/vamps are required to move the story forward, agreed but by giving them 20 minutes of the screen space and 2 minutes screen space to the leads that too meaningless and illogical scenes..how on the earth will they get the audience hooked...

Had they shown pallavi trying to balance between both Houses, trying her best jn fulfilling her responsiblity as wife and daughter without ignoring either or regretting to having Ignored one for other ..Raghav trying to connect dots, play smart, act like don and showing both of them playing mind games with both winning equally instead of mandar winning and raghav crying ..would have been interesting to watch and would have generated interest of TRP audience...but then I don't have any hopes to be honest

+infinity. I wish the CVs would see this instead of now firefighting and putting more bandaid on the wound, which is the most I expect of them at this point.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: preethik

Agree with what you have written.

Don’t know the reason they have dumbed down Pallavi so much. When she has decided not to give importance to VD after the leg washing episode then why make a promise to him.
Her characterization is so poor & inconsistent in this track I don’t know how they will redeem her.

Also which mil allows her daughter in law to stay in the ex husbands house. Jaya needs to stop enabling Pallavi. We know that Raghav is already so pissed with whole situation. In fact I blame him too. He should have mentioned his misgivings about her staying in the VD house more forcefully.

Pallavi needs a reality check & soon. I hope it is not mandar who gives her that then the blame of this whole track will be on him & she will come out unscathed.

I see 99.99% chances of this happening. She will not realize or learn. I would hate that and wouldn't be able to connect with her anymore. As a woman, it's hurting me to see what they did to the character. 😔

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold I felt the same way too. Raghav has always been on the backfoot since the marriage and has been extra cautious not to hurt her if possible. She's had the upper hand with him being needy. I don't see her being unable to breathe without him around the way he clearly can't. (I ask myself why?!) It's always him trying to appease her, walk on eggshells around her, be understanding of her maayka issues, etc. That's why she demands that he should have picked her up or taken her home, even though she's the one who made that vow to Sanki after she walked out of RR mansion with Sanki while telling her husband off in front of Sanki, something that not only was in the wrong context but gave Sanki the satisfaction to see the cracks in their relationship.


There's no problem with farz and insaaniyat as long as it's done for the right reason and right people. She's blind in her love for the Ds, fine but don't make lofty promises to your new family if you can't live up to them. Initially people were saying that she was taking Amma and Raghav for granted and I wasn't so sure but now it's looking like that unfortunately.

Writers had better show a proper transition with her realization and resolve to work on things instead of overnight showing her change in behavior, because that wouldn't be convincing.

@ pink: She puts Raghav down too much in front of others - something he doesn't do with her. That needs to stop. Married people fights should be between the couple, behind closed doors - no one needs to see it. Especially people who hate your relationship (Sanki, Mandar, Keerti etc). She wasn't wrong for yelling at Raghav - she was wrong for doing it in front of people who want to see them fail.


@bold: yup. I defended her as well because I get being pulled to wanting to help your maayka - who gives up on family just like that? No one. And of all people, Pallavi would never. I came around to her need to help D fam thru this, I understand where her sense of obligation to them comes from.


It really just got to be too much when they show her constantly sideline Raghav & his needs, haq, and farz in order to help her maayka. Yes sometimes we have to prioritize one person over another, even over our spouses. It happens esp when there's an ER in the family. But, she's being shown to do this time and time and time again. So much so that she willingly has now moved back into her maayka to take care of her ex.


It's also the issue of her speaking of farz and kartavya, yet not realizing her relationship with Raghav also has farz and kartavya intertwined into it.


I'm a Pallavi supporter and Raghav supporter so I'm always going to root for them to get back on track. I get mistakes happen, they're going to show one messing up and then the other, etc etc. That's what I signed up for, but it's her lack of acknowledgement of how wrong she is that has been irking me on /off through out this whole track. The fact that she had the audacity to tell him he should have picked her up (asking him to stay - ok i'll give her that one - that's ok) and take her home is what really just made me be like WOW. I feel like often, unintentionally, Pallavi puts Raghav into a corner. He is the one that has to sacrifice things to appease her needs. If she wanted to go to RR mansion, she should leave herself, her husband never kicked her out of her home - she walked out. Even in that moment, I'd be like - that's fine - you're upset, go spend time at your maayka. It's the fact that she has promised to stay without consulting her husband - and then asks her husband why didnt you come get me that just. I have no words. They're butchering her character to fit the story line. I don't believe for one second that the original characterization of Pallavi would ever react this way. She was able to stand up to Sanki bc he was wrong in asking Raghav to wash his feet - yet she doesn't think its wrong for Sanki to ask her to stay and neglect her husband to take care of her ex husband? Where are her morals now? It's not wrong that Sanki keeps referring him to her bahu in front of her current husband?


*I want to be clear I don't mean she lacks morals, but where is that moral compass now that would've told her what he's saying is wrong.

Edited by fria319 - 4 years ago

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