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Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

I think the CVs are getting trapped between their own story and the OG track... especially with ShiVi since they showed significant differences in Shiva and Raavi's early relationship. In the beginning, up until the haveli episodes, I always thought Shiva and Raavi shared an unspoken, strong relationship. Where they were able to understand each other's pain (i.e., Shiva staring at the noose, knowing to step away and let Raavi be comforted by Maami, Shiva threatening the people who hurt her, Raavi and the chole incident, her visceral shiver when Dhara beat Shiva with a danda). This element never really existed in the original.

They also never showed an adequate apology between Raavi and Dev. Maybe it's as Esha said... they probably are non-confrontational people who'd rather forgive than ruminate about the "What could've been" or hold grudges. What the CVs didn't realize is that removing the apology scene has lowered both Raavi and Dev's characters. This apology was the moment for Dev to be remorseful, it was supposed to be the moment where the audience simmered down and felt his pain for marrying a girl he didn't love. Meanwhile, it was a chance for the audience to get to know Raavi better. She doesn't have to hold a deep rooted grudge on Dev. Saying something as simple as, "I'll accept your apology, but I don't think I'll ever be able to truly forgive you for letting me find out, in front of the whole town..."

Instead of having the misunderstanding right now, I wish they delayed it a couple of months. I'd much rather see Shiva and Raavi talk about their expectations for the marriage. The old Shiva might've been disappointed that Raavi doesn't seek a loving, happy marriage, but I think he would understand. Raavi, meanwhile, could learn about Shiva's own dreams of the future. They could've transitioned from childhood enemies to friends, with a few moments showing how they could be more, and once Shiva fell in love, truly and unequivocally, he could've read the diary, heard the comments from Sneha, etc. and this could've been his breakdown where he thinks all his time with Raavi was wasteful. The time together, would've made Raavi understand Shiva better as well. So instead of her blank stares, we would've gotten something more meaningful. We could've gotten both of them to reminiscence on their happy moments... right now we have nothing to work off of. They haven't had a proper conversation in the 4+ months they've married as ML said!

I couldn’t have said it bettter Avi! I think the fact that we never got an apology nor a conversation between Dev and Raavi was the beginning of my journey in terms of being disappointed with the story. I was super excited post the wedding because of the immense potential. But I was really taken back by the lack of apology. Maybe that’s why till today, I try to understand why we didn’t get that scene. Try to find a reason to explain it so that I can move on from it.

And the biggest disappointment for me is how they handled the childhood angle. This was their trump card in this version and they completely ruined it. Recently, I can’t even tell those two know each other since their childhood. It really makes me sad because that is what really hooked me to their story. There is so much I wanted based off of their rich history. It’s such a shame that they literally shoved their history under the rug and rendered it meaningless.

I think your first line makes so much sense. They are stuck between the ShiVi in this version vs the OG. Made me wish we never compared it to the OG. This one had such a unique take on their relationship. There were endless possibilities in terms of how ShiVi’s story could have unfolded on screen. I would much rather have watched conversations over any cliched romantic scene.

If raavis mannath is for the fighting to stop..I am hoping this misunderstanding will get cleared by the end of this yathra track.....one episode full of meaningful shiva and raavi scenes and the cherry on the icing was there were monologues...and I am having all the hopes flying around me like jet planes..

PS.. this PS spy should be given a bonus for his amazing work..

On a lighter note, I really liked Raavi’s green top she was trying on when Shiva walked in
Also I always cursed the dupatta she wore with her night suit but we got a scene out if it😆

Originally posted by: mahajanaish

I also found that weird . He was speaking English some episodes back ... And basic english is taught at primary level not at college level . Are they saying shiva is a school dropout .

Even if basic schooling is completed it is not necessary that you speak fluent English.........pronunciation has nothing to do with knowing the language completely.....some people knowing the language also make pronunciation errors

And about using phone....he knows to use it but is not very well equipped with it....do remember the scene where mistakenly he video called Raavi in the haveli sequence and then he was unsure about how to decline it.

So I don't think these things prove anything related to Shiva's qualification........but seeing Dhara's adamancy before leap regarding his studies and then his telling to Raavi that he has not gone to college shows probably that he has completed his schooling

Just my thoughts😊

I also liked the BGM in the dupatta scene, think its new, have not heard in previous ShiVi scenes😃

Also loved all of their scenes, will share my thoughts on each one of them when I can amidst a busy Monday.

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

I think the CVs are getting trapped between their own story and the OG track... especially with ShiVi since they showed significant differences in Shiva and Raavi's early relationship. In the beginning, up until the haveli episodes, I always thought Shiva and Raavi shared an unspoken, strong relationship. Where they were able to understand each other's pain (i.e., Shiva staring at the noose, knowing to step away and let Raavi be comforted by Maami, Shiva threatening the people who hurt her, Raavi and the chole incident, her visceral shiver when Dhara beat Shiva with a danda). This element never really existed in the original.

They also never showed an adequate apology between Raavi and Dev. Maybe it's as Esha said... they probably are non-confrontational people who'd rather forgive than ruminate about the "What could've been" or hold grudges. What the CVs didn't realize is that removing the apology scene has lowered both Raavi and Dev's characters. This apology was the moment for Dev to be remorseful, it was supposed to be the moment where the audience simmered down and felt his pain for marrying a girl he didn't love. Meanwhile, it was a chance for the audience to get to know Raavi better. She doesn't have to hold a deep rooted grudge on Dev. Saying something as simple as, "I'll accept your apology, but I don't think I'll ever be able to truly forgive you for letting me find out, in front of the whole town..."

Instead of having the misunderstanding right now, I wish they delayed it a couple of months. I'd much rather see Shiva and Raavi talk about their expectations for the marriage. The old Shiva might've been disappointed that Raavi doesn't seek a loving, happy marriage, but I think he would understand. Raavi, meanwhile, could learn about Shiva's own dreams of the future. They could've transitioned from childhood enemies to friends, with a few moments showing how they could be more, and once Shiva fell in love, truly and unequivocally, he could've read the diary, heard the comments from Sneha, etc. and this could've been his breakdown where he thinks all his time with Raavi was wasteful. The time together, would've made Raavi understand Shiva better as well. So instead of her blank stares, we would've gotten something more meaningful. We could've gotten both of them to reminiscence on their happy moments... right now we have nothing to work off of. They haven't had a proper conversation in the 4+ months they've married as ML said!

This makes so much sense. You are right- they tried going between OG and their own version and ended up doing disservice to both 😕

In the OG when Kathir and Mullai have the exact Mu ShiVi are having, there is a sea of bonding between them. You are invested in their stories and want them to work it out because the journey was so beautiful and you did not want it to go to waste.

Here, you end up feeling that anyways there is no ground work between them- no shared sorrows, happy memories, teasing(ok maybe a little). I keep thinking what is the big deal? Shiva and Raavi might as well go and start over with someone else for all the progression between them. They might find it easier with strangers at this point 🤷‍♀️ The only thread they are hanging on by is the "He is my husband/She is my wife" 😐 There is literally no other reason they are holding on to each other. And that irks me. Yes marriage is sanctimonious, and you should definitely strive to work with your partner in a marriage- but the how are ShiVi any different than pretty much any couple out there 😕

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

I couldn’t have said it bettter Avi! I think the fact that we never got an apology nor a conversation between Dev and Raavi was the beginning of my journey in terms of being disappointed with the story. I was super excited post the wedding because of the immense potential. But I was really taken back by the lack of apology. Maybe that’s why till today, I try to understand why we didn’t get that scene. Try to find a reason to explain it so that I can move on from it.

And the biggest disappointment for me is how they handled the childhood angle. This was their trump card in this version and they completely ruined it. Recently, I can’t even tell those two know each other since their childhood. It really makes me sad because that is what really hooked me to their story. There is so much I wanted based off of their rich history. It’s such a shame that they literally shoved their history under the rug and rendered it meaningless.

I think your first line makes so much sense. They are stuck between the ShiVi in this version vs the OG. Made me wish we never compared it to the OG. This one had such a unique take on their relationship. There were endless possibilities in terms of how ShiVi’s story could have unfolded on screen. I would much rather have watched conversations over any cliched romantic scene.

Don't know if this belongs in the EDT or not, but a few days ago, I was trying to understand Shiva and Raavi... why Shiva always had a visceral reaction to Raavi commenting on Shiva when he doesn't care what the rest of the town thinks of him. He's had this reaction even before their wedding. When she sprays perfume on him, he literally stopped his bike and tossed her off. He didn't roll his eyes or ignore her actions like he ignored Rishita. I know they shared a closer relationship for him to take the liberty to do this, but I always thought there was something deeper in his actions...

This is where I go off on a complete tangent... but,

I've always imagined Raavi and Shiva to be good friends, perhaps even best friends before his father's death. They always had an unspoken understanding with each other pre-marriage. He was the one to understand that she would take his words about throwing herself in front of a truck seriously, he was the one who watched her every emotion during their marriage, he was the one to understand what scared her. It seemed like he wasn't learning anything new (until all the MU's happened), but just that they continued their relationship from where they left off pre-marriage. Plus, she always defended Shiva's character in front of Maami. She might be the nicest person in the world, but defending someone who's left her in pain every time is a little hard to believe unless she shared a relationship with him that transcended what we know of her.

Shiva definitely knows just how nice and sweet Raavi is. Which is why despite being related to Maami, he is much softer in his approach and has somehow made her the center of his world while growing up. But I think after his father's death, he shut off everyone in that family, including Raavi which broke her heart. This girl lost her parents, and losing out on a best friend probably crumbled her enough to never expect love from a relationship. Also with all your ideas that Raavi wanted to be a Pandya bahu... in my little head cannon I formed for myself, I always imagined it to be so she can salvage whatever friendship she had with Shiva in the past. She craved to be Dhara because she knew out of everyone, Shiva loved and respected Dhara the most, and as Shiva's bhabi, she could win that little emotion back from Shiva.

She didn't even consider Dev as a potential match until the juice incident, which makes me wonder what Raavi thought of him before that. Shiva certainly would've bullied her pre-juice, but she seemed to only notice Dev after the juice... And during the wedding, she was most focused on Shiva, after Dev. Wanting him to accept him as his bhabi. Wanting him to sit down right next to him... I dunno, maybe I am thinking too hard to come up with a salvageable reason as to why she wants to "reset" their relationship... because she wants to go back to the past while he wants to move onto their future...

Hey guys! 🤗

I'm about to embark on the dreaded journey of reading the LU.. hopefully it was a yellow alert episode 😆

Originally posted by: majoni03

See the comments in his post. All the comments are Raavi ko kidnap karlo, Raavi ka accident karwa do🤣

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Originally posted by: mpks1

I also liked the BGM in the dupatta scene, think its new, have not heard in previous ShiVi scenes😃

Also loved all of their scenes, will share my thoughts on each one of them when I can amidst a busy Monday.

The violin one after she turns back and think he didn't even say anything when she fell or the one when she falls?..

I think violin one was played for dhara previously .