Pandya Store|Episode Discussion#72|Rishita Bani Hero (RED ALERT) - Page 50

Originally posted by: mpks1

Aaj kal tu zyaada khayali pulao pak rahi, hain na?😆

Haan, had se ziyada😆

Kiya pata, ek khayali pulao sach ho gaya toh❤️

The colossal problem of Shiva & Raavi is that both of them are at different planes of relationship with each other. Their conflict and state of mind have been established many times.

Shiva hop skipped and jumped a marathon in this marriage with his feelings. Perhaps they were always there, as Dev had mentioned earlier too. Shiva gave his heart faster and so seamlessly to Raavi, simmering with a passion so typical of him.

But, Raavi, as we see, is neither on the same plane nor tangent as him. For her, the marriage has happened and is they both need to compromise and make this marriage work!

The challenge is that Shiva hasn't given her any reason to love him the way he does. He neither expresses his thoughts nor behaves well with her. When he did, she got confused. Both are too complicated in their perception of things.

I am unsure if anyone has noticed, but everyone wants Shiva to move on, but he won't budge. It's ironic because Shiva rarely moves on! He is passionately attached to everything that he loves. If he were to move on with Raavi, it would have happened, but it hasn't!

I guess this track might lead to separation, and we get to see Raavi’s growth and Shiva’s redemption.

Originally posted by: Transference

The colossal problem of Shiva & Raavi is that both of them are at different planes of relationship with each other. Their conflict and state of mind have been established many times.

Shiva hop skipped and jumped a marathon in this marriage with his feelings. Perhaps they were always there, as Dev had mentioned earlier too. Shiva gave his heart faster and so seamlessly to Raavi, simmering with a passion so typical of him.

But, Raavi, as we see, is neither on the same plane nor tangent as him. For her, the marriage has happened and is they both need to compromise and make this marriage work!

The challenge is that Shiva hasn't given her any reason to love him the way he does. He neither expresses his thoughts nor behaves well with her. When he did, she got confused. Both are too complicated in their perception of things.

I am unsure if anyone has noticed, but everyone wants Shiva to move on, but he won't budge. It's ironic because Shiva rarely moves on! He is passionately attached to everything that he loves. If he were to move on with Raavi, it would have happened, but it hasn't!

I guess this track might lead to separation, and we get to see Raavi’s growth and Shiva’s redemption.

Also after what happened to her raavi might be gun shy about opening her heart to anyone and shivas behavior doesnt really endear him to her either. He covers up his feelings with anger and she doesnt understand why his actions effect her so much. Raavi isnt wrong in thinking to make this marriage work many people enter into it with no love and dont fall in love either but form a companionship and respect for each other. Here shiva wants raavi to want him like he wants her but he doesnt even know what to call his feelings yet while raavi is more slow on the uptake coz of her past experience and shivas behavior towards her.

Originally posted by: Transference

The colossal problem of Shiva & Raavi is that both of them are at different planes of relationship with each other. Their conflict and state of mind have been established many times.

Shiva hop skipped and jumped a marathon in this marriage with his feelings. Perhaps they were always there, as Dev had mentioned earlier too. Shiva gave his heart faster and so seamlessly to Raavi, simmering with a passion so typical of him.

But, Raavi, as we see, is neither on the same plane nor tangent as him. For her, the marriage has happened and is they both need to compromise and make this marriage work!

The challenge is that Shiva hasn't given her any reason to love him the way he does. He neither expresses his thoughts nor behaves well with her. When he did, she got confused. Both are too complicated in their perception of things.

I am unsure if anyone has noticed, but everyone wants Shiva to move on, but he won't budge. It's ironic because Shiva rarely moves on! He is passionately attached to everything that he loves. If he were to move on with Raavi, it would have happened, but it hasn't!

I guess this track might lead to separation, and we get to see Raavi’s growth and Shiva’s redemption.

I agree with initial statement that both of them are on different planes. However, everything that I have been reading in the threads, I honeslty think a lot you in the heat/anger of the moment forgot some major points about Shiva.

Let's start with the statement about compromise in a marriage, this the core pillar of making a marriage work, I know that even though I am not married. I read in a post that in arranged marriages there needs to be a compromise but we are forgetting that their marriage was not arranged in normal circumstances, it was essentially a forced marriage (Shiva's choice was taken from him by Raavi's suicide attempt and Raavi's choice was taken away by the emotional blackmail of her family).

You have to watch the whole scene to realise why Shiva does not want a compromise. Just prior to Raavi stating that they need to compromise to make their marriage work. Shiva says that marriage was forced on her, it was her helplessness that made her agree to the marriage, then she says well we are already married so let's compromise. The moment she said that I wanted to bang my head against the wall because it seemed like she was saying yes I was forced, you are nothing like my dream guy but since I am married, I have no other option but to accept this marriage. This brings back to the argument that she is doing this out pity and obligation to her family and society. She is not compromising because she wants to but she has to.

Second most important thing, I think this was already pointed out by someone on this forum. Shiva never disliked Raavi as an individual, he hated that she was related to maami. Him not wanting her to get married to dev stems from that fact that she was raised by maami and like anita will eventually show her true colors. So falling in love and accepting the marriage quickly was bound to happen because he like Raavi as an individual.

However, Raavi on the other hand hated/disliked Shiva the person, his core, his identity so he can't accept the care and concern shown by Raavi because it is insulting him and his love. Sneha appearance cut Shiva's wings, cut his heart out of his chest and crushed it beyond recognition. Sneha is Raavi in Shiva's mind, Sneha was repeating in verbatim everything that Raavi told her. It was a brutal reminder to shiva what she actually wanted (dev) and what she got (shiva).

Honestly that kind of blow to your heart, soul, and identity takes time to heal and unfortunately he doesn't get that time because he gets reminded of it at every single turn (like the diary, rishita's words, Raavi's unintentional words, and circumstances like the hing smell).

Sorry for the long post and jumping on your post.

Originally posted by: Mahidev

I agree with initial statement that both of them are on different planes. However, everything that I have been reading in the threads, I honeslty think a lot you in the heat/anger of the moment forgot some major points about Shiva.

Let's start with the statement about compromise in a marriage, this the core pillar of making a marriage work, I know that even though I am not married. I read in a post that in arranged marriages there needs to be a compromise but we are forgetting that their marriage was not arranged in normal circumstances, it was essentially a forced marriage (Shiva's choice was taken from him by Raavi's suicide attempt and Raavi's choice was taken away by the emotional blackmail of her family).

You have to watch the whole scene to realise why Shiva does not want a compromise. Just prior to Raavi stating that they need to compromise to make their marriage work. Shiva says that marriage was forced on her, it was her helplessness that made her agree to the marriage, then she says well we are already married so let's compromise. The moment she said that I wanted to bang my head against the wall because it seemed like she was saying yes I was forced, you are nothing like my dream guy but since I am married, I have no other option but to accept this marriage. This brings back to the argument that she is doing this out pity and obligation to her family and society. She is not compromising because she wants to but she has to.

Second most important thing, I think this was already pointed out by someone on this forum. Shiva never disliked Raavi as an individual, he hated that she was related to maami. Him not wanting her to get married to dev stems from that fact that she was raised by maami and like anita will eventually show her true colors. So falling in love and accepting the marriage quickly was bound to happen because he like Raavi as an individual.

However, Raavi on the other hand hated/disliked Shiva the person, his core, his identity so he can't accept the care and concern shown by Raavi because it is insulting him and his love. Sneha appearance cut Shiva's wings, cut his heart out of his chest and crushed it beyond recognition. Sneha is Raavi in Shiva's mind, Sneha was repeating in verbatim everything that Raavi told her. It was a brutal reminder to shiva what she actually wanted (dev) and what she got (shiva).

Honestly that kind of blow to your heart, soul, and identity takes time to heal and unfortunately he doesn't get that time because he gets reminded of it at every single turn (like the diary, rishita's words, Raavi's unintentional words, and circumstances like the hing smell).

Sorry for the long post and jumping on your post.

This is a beautiful post! You said it very well about Shiva. His thoughts and expectations are in the right place, but unfortunately his actions aren't. The makers are writing him such that his reaction is angry towards everything he doesn't like or want. But at the same time he is also a character who is a deep thinker, contemplates and introspects. I wish we get to see those facets of him too

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

This is a beautiful post! You said it very well about Shiva. His thoughts and expectations are in the right place, but unfortunately his actions aren't. The makers are writing him such that his reaction is angry towards everything he doesn't like or want. But at the same time he is also a character who is a deep thinker, contemplates and introspects. I wish we get to see those facets of him too

You are right about the complexity of Shiva's character. Shiva is a type of person that a lot of people can connect to. I connect to him completely, including the anger issues, but others will connect on different things, especially the insecurity part. Shiva is a gold mine for a writer, unfortunately ps writers just want to collect the dirt and throw out the gold.

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

He’s like main hi mila yeh sab karne ke liye 🤣

He looks like a bakra in all their stupid reels and pranks jo halal hone wala h

Originally posted by: mpks1

You are dashing my hopes now, no more store scenes.

😭 Even Saravanan, the helper in the OG used to tease KM and had scenes with Kaka, and now all that are gone😕

They introduced a helper yesterday sudesh jo hing kaand krke gya

Originally posted by: Mahidev

I agree with initial statement that both of them are on different planes. However, everything that I have been reading in the threads, I honeslty think a lot you in the heat/anger of the moment forgot some major points about Shiva.

Let's start with the statement about compromise in a marriage, this the core pillar of making a marriage work, I know that even though I am not married. I read in a post that in arranged marriages there needs to be a compromise but we are forgetting that their marriage was not arranged in normal circumstances, it was essentially a forced marriage (Shiva's choice was taken from him by Raavi's suicide attempt and Raavi's choice was taken away by the emotional blackmail of her family).

You have to watch the whole scene to realise why Shiva does not want a compromise. Just prior to Raavi stating that they need to compromise to make their marriage work. Shiva says that marriage was forced on her, it was her helplessness that made her agree to the marriage, then she says well we are already married so let's compromise. The moment she said that I wanted to bang my head against the wall because it seemed like she was saying yes I was forced, you are nothing like my dream guy but since I am married, I have no other option but to accept this marriage. This brings back to the argument that she is doing this out pity and obligation to her family and society. She is not compromising because she wants to but she has to.

Second most important thing, I think this was already pointed out by someone on this forum. Shiva never disliked Raavi as an individual, he hated that she was related to maami. Him not wanting her to get married to dev stems from that fact that she was raised by maami and like anita will eventually show her true colors. So falling in love and accepting the marriage quickly was bound to happen because he like Raavi as an individual.

However, Raavi on the other hand hated/disliked Shiva the person, his core, his identity so he can't accept the care and concern shown by Raavi because it is insulting him and his love. Sneha appearance cut Shiva's wings, cut his heart out of his chest and crushed it beyond recognition. Sneha is Raavi in Shiva's mind, Sneha was repeating in verbatim everything that Raavi told her. It was a brutal reminder to shiva what she actually wanted (dev) and what she got (shiva).

Honestly that kind of blow to your heart, soul, and identity takes time to heal and unfortunately he doesn't get that time because he gets reminded of it at every single turn (like the diary, rishita's words, Raavi's unintentional words, and circumstances like the hing smell).

Sorry for the long post and jumping on your post.

This is a great take on Shiva- I fee Shiva's pain.

I'll forgive him the dialogue of Tel Masala, that is just the dialogue writers being lazy.

But all this cannot justifying him pushing her in public. It is bad to do in private, but ten times worse in public. Poor Raavi is already probably fodder for gossip. They are married what- 1 or 2 months? We saw how the gossip aunties, they are probably more ruthless when discussing Raavi's marriage. What Shiva did probably further ignited more rumors instead of quieting them down 🙁

If they just showed him quietly walking away, I would have felt the full impact of all the points you mentioned. But now I am unable to 😞

Shiva can love Raavi to the moon and back. But Raavi reserves the right to not love him back. It can be a compromise for her- she should not be punished for feeling that 😐

Originally posted by: frnd_ship

They introduced a helper yesterday sudesh jo hing kaand krke gya

This guy seemed like a side character- he had no screen presence 🥱

The helper in the OG had awesome comedic timing and great chemistry with Kaka. They used him for comic relief- teasing Kaka and KM