Turning the wheels-ep - Page 4

Originally posted by: NiharikaMishra

You need to re-read my post, I say that if someone hurls abuses against portrayal of important changes in the legal systems just so that the leads can stay together, they are giving more importance to romance. If you don't think like that and have not participated in threads like these, my accusations are not for you. What's the point of saying lines like these? "Then why make me bear the brunt?"

Also, I asked for a recommended track that would make the abolishment of child marriage to appear more calm and nice. This track will never be nice but it is necessary. I would rather look forward to how Ani can still sponsor Bon's education without being her legal husband because society will not allow that too.

I feel they shouldn't have gone so into Rudhita being so familial with each other. Instead it should have been more on the track of how Bondita respects Anirudh as someone who has helped her. All this what to say...warm feelings? I don't have a better word. The how do I say this...the very basis of their relation was shown in such a way. For me they should have made Anirudh make Bondita understand or something on that lines. Like how their relation isn't just this marriage thing. Its not. Though I have loved watching how pure these two are as how Anirudh stands for Bondita but maybe it might have been better if it wasn't like this or maybe if Anirudh made Bondita understand the difference

This track of abolishment of child marriage shouldn't be ignored. Its needed. People need to understand Barrister Babu was about Anirudh making Bondita a barrister. Yes their relation is also one factor but it never has to be of husband-wife. More of a mentor and mentee

Originally posted by: NiharikaMishra

I had predicted Manorama will die, it was evident in her dialogues ever since she had been introduced. So I was not worried of any long term love triangles springing up. But the way people have reacted to the track has been just horrible and nothing less.

But I have been pretty sad on how this track has been received by the viewers who had their top priority for Rudhita's romance track to remain plausible.

Except for Aniruddh's haste and not being able to sit down and talk to Bondita, which too was because of the exam deadline, I found nothing wrong with the track.

It was also pathetic to see those objecting to child marriage being abolished just because it nullified Rudhita's marriage and chances of romance and went to the extent of commenting that even Aniruddh is illegitimate because he was a product of Binoy-Shubra's child marriage. They don't think of the trauma child Shubra must have faced when she consummated her marriage and gave birth to Aniruddh.

In present day it would have been rape and yes a person like Ani would have been an illegitimate child, and the law was made to stop this from happening in future.

Abolishment of child marriage was a landmark decision and it was done to nullify marriage of couples who are still children and stop future such marriages, not confer all Indian marriages as illegal.

But no, all we need is Romance.

Reminds me of the web series Panchayat where people already having more that two kids got offended when the slogan of "Do bacche hai meethi kheer usse zyada hai bawaseer" (Two kids are sweet pudding, more than that are piles)

Youth taking their exams for granted these days will never understand the struggles women have had to face to get educated in the past.

Aniruddh's character is tagged as butchered just because he used passive aggression to coax a child into studying and got naturally attracted to a woman. And people complain why realistic TV shows aren't made anymore

This kind of viewership is exactly why channels start a show with a social message and after 50 episodes max, it's romance romance romance.

Ok, so I don't know why am I replying you 3 months later, but as I came across this post right now, I think I should. Having read all your posts, I understood your pov, and would like to express the problem I felt with the track and manorudh marriage.

@ul- the reason for manorudh marriage being wrong is def not rudhita romance but other factors, it's the brutal mental trauma inflicted on a child who is a kid and not even a teen. The whole track was badly done, first of all, lemme make it clear that the way I see rudhita relationship is not at all of a couple, not even a platonic couple, but a bond between a mentor mentee, and more than that a bond bw a guardian child, and he was def parenting bon in one way, which for me was the most soothing part in their relationship, now tell me if what he did was the last option? I agree he tried to make her understand why her behaviour is wrong multiple times, but did he for once explain it to her the right way? During the first convo, yes he told her that her behaviour is wrong,but did he explain her why it's wrong? Nope, instead the kind of examples he used like rail ki patri afyually added to that little kids insecurities, yes during the time he blasted her in the anniversary in front of everyone, his words were def right, yes their marriage is evil, and right fully as it's a child marriage, but isn't there a way to every thing? How Do you expect a little kid to actually accept everything he said so harshly? Next he told her that child marriage is wrong, right, but did he explain her why it is wrong? Instead he each and every while publicly humiliated and insulted her, isn't he the same man who taught her the diff bw good and bad touch with such ease, then why couldn't he do something like that again to make her ralize her mistake instead of insulting her knowingly or unknowingly?

Now comes the point of his attraction towards mano, so the attraction was not a problem, the problem was that due to that, he neglected bondita, and yes he did, showing that he did the second marriage for just bon ki bhalai was actually pathetic by the makers, when that little kid fainted in the marriage venue, was made to perform the haunting rituals of a second wife, it was she who suffered, and not Anirudh (yeah, he def felt bad seeing her that way, but then he called for it), yes ani thought it was bon ki bhalai, but the decision to Marry was def influenced by something more than just bon ki bhalai, his attraction was obviously present before the marriage, he subconsciously wanted to do that, and eventually did it, now if the makers showed him accepting this, it would have def made sense, and do u find nothing wrong with the marriage? Yes, he def will not fall for bon romantically coz he's not a pedophile for god's sake, but isn't keeping a child's sautan equally problematic and disturbing to watch? Isn't he the same man who to take care of a child left his childhood love obviously coz his principles didn't allow him to practice adultery? So how is what he did now justified in any way?

The problem is not his attraction towards a woman his age, but that his attraction caused an innocent child's suffering and him neglecting the kid he was supposed to protect.

Now to what you said about mental health not being a priority when other things are at stake, then actually, nothing was at stake, yes when bon endangered her life, he panicked, but he could handle it in propoerly, he could even punish her for that, but most importantly he could have devised a way to make her realise the actual problem, she never went through the atrocities of a child marriage coz her husband was a complete angel, and this is why she needed to be told and her mistake to be realised, once she understood that her marriage was wrong, she would obviously understand that her fantacizing the marriage was wrong too, which was Anirudhs responsibility which he didn't fulfill.

Anirudhs character is def butchered coz what he did was brutal emotional child abuse of a little girl no matter his intentions were gold.

When a child asks for something wrong, we don't adopt another one to make the first one realize their mistake, a reason why this show is not realistic, not anymore during that track, aniruddh married mano, then made bon feel homeless, neglected her and actually used her jealousy and her feelings to correct her,which completely failed, even made her mum involved in this plan of hers, can u imagine the trauma she went through? How is Anirudh right in all this?

Would you really have mentally harassed your kid to make them understand something? There is a difference bw punishment and mental harassment, and mental harassment is not the way to discipline a child as young as 11. How is this not a problem? And how is her mental health not important when she's the same child who had developed a problem of bed wetting due to a mental trauma?

Regarding annulment, I had no problem with that. Regarding manorama, I adored her for her devotion towards the country of course, but other than that, she was guilty like Anirudh too, she could make him realize why he's wrong with what he's doing, but😒

Now all i can say is that yes, a section of audience do romanticize rudhita, I cannot deny that, can't say about people here, this forum is actually very sane,but rest , on sm, they do, but then saying that every one against this track was against for this very reason is very wrong, people can different view points and diff reasons to support or to be against something.

Originally posted by: aastha12345

Ok, so I don't know why am I replying you 3 months later, but as I came across this post right now, I think I should. Having read all your posts, I understood your pov, and would like to express the problem I felt with the track and manorudh marriage.

@ul- the reason for manorudh marriage being wrong is def not rudhita romance but other factors, it's the brutal mental trauma inflicted on a child who is a kid and not even a teen. The whole track was badly done, first of all, lemme make it clear that the way I see rudhita relationship is not at all of a couple, not even a platonic couple, but a bond between a mentor mentee, and more than that a bond bw a guardian child, and he was def parenting bon in one way, which for me was the most soothing part in their relationship, now tell me if what he did was the last option? I agree he tried to make her understand why her behaviour is wrong multiple times, but did he for once explain it to her the right way? During the first convo, yes he told her that her behaviour is wrong,but did he explain her why it's wrong? Nope, instead the kind of examples he used like rail ki patri afyually added to that little kids insecurities, yes during the time he blasted her in the anniversary in front of everyone, he was def right, yes their marriage is evil, and right fully as it's a child marriage, but isn't there a way to every thing? How Do you expect a little kid to actually accept everything he said so harshly? Next he told her that child marriage is wrong, right, but did he explain her why it is wrong? Instead he each and every while publicly humiliated and insulted her, isn't he the same man who taught her the diff bw good and bad touch with such ease, then why couldn't he do something like that again to make her ralize her mistake instead of insulting her knowingly or unknowingly?

Now comes the point of his attraction towards mano, so the attraction was not a problem, the problem was that due to that, he neglected bondita, and yes he did, showing that he did the second marriage for just bon ki bhalai was actually pathetic by the makers, when that little kid fainted in the marriage venue, was made to perform the haunting rituals of a second wife, it was she who suffered, and not Anirudh (yeah, he def felt bad seeing her that way, but then he called for it), yes ani thought it was bon ki bhalai, but the decision to Marry was def influenced by something more than just bon ki bhalai, his attraction was obviously present before the marriage, he subconsciously wanted to do that, and eventually did it, now if the makers showed him accepting this, it would have def made sense, and do u find nothing wrong with the marriage? Yes, he def will not fall for bon romantically coz he's not a pedophile for god's sake, but isn't keeping a child's sautan equally problematic and disturbing to watch? Isn't he the same man who to take care of a child left his childhood love obviously coz his principles didn't allow him to practice adultery? So how is what he did now justified in any way?

The problem is not his attraction towards a woman his age, but that his attraction caused an innocent child's suffering and him neglecting the kid he was supposed to protect.

Now to what you said about mental health not being a priority when other things are at stake, then actually, nothing was at stake, yes when bon endangered her life, he panicked, but he could handle it in propoerly, he could even punish her for that, but most importantly he could have devised a way to make her realise the actual problem, she never went through the atrocities of a child marriage coz her husband was a complete angel, and this is why she needed to be told and her mistake to be realised, once she understood that her marriage was wrong, she would obviously understand that her fantacizing the marriage was wrong too, which was Anirudhs responsibility which he didn't fulfill.

Anirudhs character is def butchered coz what he did was brutal emotional child abuse of a little girl no matter his intentions were gold.

When a child asks for something wrong, we don't adopt another one to make the first one realize their mistake, a reason why this show is not realistic, not anymore during that track, aniruddh married mano, then made bon feel homeless, neglected her and actually used her jealousy and her feelings to correct her,which completely failed, even made her mum involved in this plan of hers, can u imagine the trauma she went through? How is Anirudh right in all this?

Would you really have mentally harassed your kid to make them understand something? There is a difference bw punishment and mental harassment, and mental harassment is not the way to discipline a child as young as 11. How is this not a problem? And how is her mental health not important when she's the same child who had developed a problem of bed wetting due to a mental trauma?

Regarding annulment, I had no problem with that, even now I find rudhita romance unsettling, which is the reason I'm not into the show post leap. Regarding manorama, I adored her for her devotion towards the country of course, but other than that, she was guilty like Anirudh too, she could make him realize why he's wrong with what he's doing, but😒

Now all i can say is that yes, a section of audience do romanticize rudhita, I cannot deny that, can't say about people here, this forum is actually very sane,but rest , on sm, they do, but then saying that every one against this track was against for this very reason is very wrong, people can different view points and diff reasons to support or to be against something.

I want to tell, that Anirudh behavior was just like a parent does, they many times shout at their child, to prevent from doing mishap.I think when he shouted on her, on the anniversary,he was undergoing a mental torment and was in a dilleema to explain, he even said at ep 37 I think,once u grow u will get it.

Whatever bondita did,was a result of teen life,where she tries to match the social life of that time,and makers could have shown her a bit distract,instead they went on showing her as puppet,though she was characterized as the trk gun girl,who debates so much. I think,they had narrowed her character and talking for arc,his character has been widely transformed,as he goes through a series of changes with the 12 girl,manorma,yes arc never neglected her,he made sure to be strict with herParents often,show anger and hurt kids, but yet they love them.Ani's actions were justified in a sense. Talking about polygamy, he,was a man of the era,and he did nothing wrong marrying mano,coz this is just a parental way of teaching right, though fandom ppl were jbiwtching her character,

ad what bondita suffered was a natural thing,every kid cries when parents shout,after they get the right thing,the parental care balances all the dispute,

''every action was done in a parental way,to make a kid move into his/her career path''

and if polygamy,temporarily used was a way.why would it be wrong?

This is my conclusion now.and talking about after leap ep,there's many cringy things,going on.

Originally posted by: karry2.0

I want to tell, that Anirudh behavior was just like a parent does, they many times shout at their child, to prevent from doing mishap.I think when he shouted on her, on the anniversary,he was undergoing a mental torment and was in a dilleema to explain, he even said at ep 37 I think,once u grow u will get it.

Whatever bondita did,was a result of teen life,where she tries to match the social life of that time,and makers could have shown her a bit distract,instead they went on showing her as puppet,though she was characterized as the trk gun girl,who debates so much. I think,they had narrowed her character and talking for arc,his character has been widely transformed,as he goes through a series of changes with the 12 girl,manorma,yes arc never neglected her,he made sure to be strict with herParents often,show anger and hurt kids, but yet they love them.Ani's actions were justified in a sense. Talking about polygamy, he,was a man of the era,and he did nothing wrong marrying mano,coz this is just a parental way of teaching right, though fandom ppl were jbiwtching her character,

ad what bondita suffered was a natural thing,every kid cries when parents shout,after they get the right thing,the parental care balances all the dispute,

''every action was done in a parental way,to make a kid move into his/her career path''

and if polygamy,temporarily used was a way.why would it be wrong?

This is my conclusion now.and talking about after leap ep,there's many cringy things,going on.

@bold 1- yes, parents many time shout at their kid, even punish them to prevent the mishap, but do good parents shout at their kid publicly and humiliate them to make them realize something? Yes the anniversary day, ani realized the things going on, and it all made him extremely uncomfortable coz bon is a child, then of course instead of shouting at her, he should have first been calm and composed and tried to explain her things, next even if he shouted at her and punished her by forbidding her to attend the ceremony, he should have taken care he's not humiliating her publicly which he did!! He should not have let kaka arrange the ceremony in the first place, yes he displayed discomfort when kaka told him he's arranging the ceremony but then he should have strictly told them not to do so, now yes the events which happened in the ceremony were disgusting true, but then he should have simply walked out if he couldn't control himself, coz he's short tempered, but why should that kid bear the brunt of his personal turmoils? Still it was understood as it was the first time, then the other times, during the sindoor fiasco, he again shouted at her publicly instead of taking her inside and talk to her alone.

@Strike- yes the portrayal of bondita as a rebellious child went overboard

@ul- being strict was not a problem, he had been raising her since a year, he was quite good in handling her all that while, but his hasty and terrible decision to marry manorama was influenced by his attraction partially and subconsciously which was quite evident.

@ul in red- nothing wrong in marrying manorama? I know he was a man of that era but he was a principled man, even child marriage was common during that era, does that mean he should have accepted bondita's demands keeping his principles aside? It was polygamy, it was wrong, and obviously his character was deteriorated by that

@strike 2- it was not natural suffering that bon got, it was emotional abuse, the kiddo fainted when he married manorama, is it normal? She brutally cried in her room that night, and he didn't even go to the kid, she was made to decorate the nuptial bed! Made to perform the horrific rituals of a second wife. How's that fine?

Tell me how will u react if your parents adopt another child suddenly without telling you(not saying adoption is bad, but if they do so neglecting you)when you make a mistake and tell you that they are their precious, beloved kid and you are nothing, and that they did it because you are bad, considering u are 11, and even if it's temporary, you are not told that it is so? It was not a normal parent child conflict that happened, but emotional abuse.

What anirudh did before this track and after it got over, the scolding, the teachings everything, was definitely parenting, but what he did here, was toxic parenting!!

@Italic green- yes😆

Originally posted by: aastha12345

@bold 1- yes, parents many time shout at their kid, even punish them to prevent the mishap, but do good parents shout at their kid publicly and humiliate them to make them realize something? Yes the anniversary day, ani realized the things going on, and it all made him extremely uncomfortable coz bon is a child, then of course instead of shouting at her, he should have first been calm and composed and tried to explain her things, next even if he shouted at her and punished her by forbidding her to attend the ceremony, he should have taken care he's not humiliating her publicly which he did!! He should not have let kaka arrange the ceremony in the first place, yes he displayed discomfort when kaka told him he's arranging the ceremony but then he should have strictly told them not to do so, now yes the events which happened in the ceremony were disgusting true, but then he should have simply walked out if he couldn't control himself, coz he's short tempered, but why should that kid bear the brunt of his personal turmoils? Still it was understood as it was the first time, then the other times, during the sindoor fiasco, he again shouted at her publicly instead of taking her inside and talk to her alone.

@Strike- yes the portrayal of bondita as a rebellious child went overboard

@ul- being strict was not a problem, he had been raising her since a year, he was quite good in handling her all that while, but his hasty and terrible decision to marry manorama was influenced by his attraction partially and subconsciously which was quite evident.

@ul in red- nothing wrong in marrying manorama? I know he was a man of that era but he was a principled man, even child marriage was common during that era, does that mean he should have accepted bondita's demands keeping his principles aside? It was polygamy, it was wrong, and obviously his character was deteriorated by that

@strike 2- it was not natural suffering that bon got, it was emotional abuse, the kiddo fainted when he married manorama, is it normal? She brutally cried in her room that night, and he didn't even go to the kid, she was made to decorate the nuptial bed! Made to perform the horrific rituals of a second wife. How's that fine?

Tell me how will u react if your parents adopt another child suddenly without telling you(not saying adoption is bad, but if they do so neglecting you)when you make a mistake and tell you that they are their precious, beloved kid and you are nothing, and that they did it because you are bad, considering u are 11, and even if it's temporary, you are not told that it is so? It was not a normal parent child conflict that happened, but emotional abuse.

What anirudh did before this track and after it got over, the scolding, the teachings everything, was definitely parenting, but what he did here, was toxic parenting!!

@Italic green- yes😆

polygamy, murder,betwichin anything done for a good reason is never bad.

Every man has different, way,every fictional character differsand still I would say it was nothing wrong.The kid who had just came out of exile,he couldn't deny her,but her tried to suppress her excitement and an indirect warning many times,as he said this gift is for topping exams not anniversary,and yes,many kids suffer emotionally,but abuse has different meaning,when he shouted,we could clearly see him being guilty and then answing her,ofcourse,is what he feels.

did Anirudh told he was a principled man?he is a man stiff for change,and yet he just wanted her to give a bolt to shift towards study,parents use diff techniques to take their kid to different path and he did nothing wrong.

Attraction- I belive it's his personal choice,we r fandom but not anidita,no right on a man ,who's gold medalist barrister,and has made her barrister,suffered in 8 years,while she enjoyed viltyi lifestyle,a man who suffers for his father,who was a victim of her successful path and career.

Originally posted by: karry2.0

polygamy, murder,betwichin anything done for a good reason is never bad.

Every man has different, way,every fictional character differsand still I would say it was nothing wrong.The kid who had just came out of exile,he couldn't deny her,but her tried to suppress her excitement and an indirect warning many times,as he said this gift is for topping exams not anniversary,and yes,many kids suffer emotionally,but abuse has different meaning,when he shouted,we could clearly see him being guilty and then answing her,ofcourse,is what he feels.

did Anirudh told he was a principled man?he is a man stiff for change,and yet he just wanted her to give a bolt to shift towards study,parents use diff techniques to take their kid to different path and he did nothing wrong.

Attraction- I belive it's his personal choice,we r fandom but not anidita,no right on a man ,who's gold medalist barrister,and has made her barrister,suffered in 8 years,while she enjoyed viltyi lifestyle,a man who suffers for his father,who was a victim of her successful path and career.

@bold: wait, what🤣!! speaking about today's times ,its a punishable offense, and it was equally wrong the time it was not a punishable offense, just like how aniditas marriage was wrong despite the fact that ani married her in a last attempt to save her from sati, still doesn't make the marriage right coz its a child marriage.

@bold italic ul- everything parents do thinking its good for their kids is not right, every parent feels bad when they scold or punish their kids, even those who give their kids harsh physical punishments which is clearly wrong feel bad, but still the kids are affected due to the same, doesn't matter whatever the intentions of parents are, the children are affected, which they don't deserve.

@strike: it was evident, otherwise why didn't he marry saudamuni? She suffered too, by this logic he should have married her itself

@strike2: I said I never had a problem with his attraction, but that he married manorama due to it, which caused bondita's suffering.

@red- he has suffered a lot for her, has done a lot, more than anyone else, and i never denied that.