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Originally posted by: Nja91

Virat has lost his cool in emotions-yes. but the larger point is that he is worried that Sai will find someone else. But when he frames a question like "what were you doing in our bedroom alone with this guy" and assaults the guy- its obvious that he IS questioning her integrity. Thats what Sai is going to perceive. So she WILL feel like his is questioning her loyalty. So that will definitely be perceived by her as his LACK of trust in her again! He didnt trust her during the devkit issue and now he has gone too far in his insecurity.

Sai reacting during virat-pp episode CANNOT be compared to virat reaction in Sai-ajinkya.

Yes, being insecure is normal..but going overboard is not ok.

Yes Sai also didn't give virat a chance to explain when she heard the pool conversation but she did try her best to control her emotions n not create a tamasha. And virat had many chances to clear the issue before her outburst.and truth is that Virat did make a vaada to pp, he did have feelings for her, he did tell Sai that he was committed to someone else. Sai knew that pp was that someone else and so its entirely justified for her to get upset at feeling like he was playing with her emotions while still being in love with pp. She wanted him to make a choice one way or another.

In Sai-akinkya case, its all Virats jealousy. There is really nothing objective that virat has to accuse Sai.

I agree with most things you have said here. Obviously Sai is going to perceive that Virat is questioning her character. It doesn't matter if he calls her characterless or if she reads into his questioning and says it herself. Either way, the result is the same. To her, what other meaning could that question even have? Again, we have not seen how the scene plays out, so I will wait to comment further. But, what I was trying to get across in my post is that I do not believe that from Virat's perspective it is a lack of trust of Sai. He has no control over him emotions, especially when it comes to Sai, and that is the bigger issue here. The issue is his insecurities, which he does not know how to keep in check. But, how is Sai supposed to know any of this? To her, it is going to clearly appear as his lack of trust. So, in this way, I was simply trying to get both perspectives across.

Again, I began my post by saying that Pakhi-Virat and Sai-Ajinkya cannot be compared as a whole. My point in bringing up the pool scene was to show that both Sai and Virat say things they do not mean and act out of their impulses when it comes to each other. When the pool confrontation happened followed by the family zillat drama, my heart broke for Sai. The amount of pain this girl has been put through is unimaginable. I agree with you that it was completely justified for her to get upset and feel like he was playing with her emotions. But, the truth of the matter is that she only heard part of the conversation and did not give Virat a chance to explain himself, and she did indirectly accuse him of emotional cheating at the very least, even when she knew herself that was not the case. This was all out of the pain she was feeling about being brought back to the reality of the vaada after starting to think that this was all real.

What Virat has done here has been overdone and taken up way too many notches. I agree with that. But, what I am trying to say is that people say things they don't mean...they say really harsh things out of the fear of losing the people they love.

Virat almost blacks out when he is angry and loses control over himself entirely. He does not even realize what he is doing or what he is saying.

I am not saying that any of this is okay. But, I am just trying to understand and explain his perspective..

Originally posted by: laksh

I can understand his insecurity, can understand his emotions or even his outburst but actions speaks louder than words. For me, the minute he overreacted when he came to know that Ajinkya was in their room showed how much trust he has in Sai. I am not saying he thinks her to be characterless but he should have so much trust in her to not to run to the room like that. See, when I say about trust even now, I am not saying he thinks she might be doing something with Ajinkya and hence he is running, I am not able to think that way too but is he not supposed to wait or not react and go to his room like normally? His insecurity can be seen in his restlessness, not by his inconsiderate behaviour. Sai wanted to join him and Pakhi to Ladakh, she didn’t like when Pakhi kept offering to pack his things, she felt restless when Pakhi was speaking all that crap and couldn’t hold herself that she replied to Pakhi and started talking to Pakhi. One could see how hurt she was as a wife. But even then, even after she has heard Pakhi asking for his clothes, even after Pakhi making fun of her asking her to study and they will go to Ladakh, even after Pakhi keeps claiming rights on Virat, even after she knows that Virat was committed to Pakhi and that’s why didn’t accept her as his wife when they got married, set conditions during their marriage, made it a deal one, she asked both of them to go to Ladakh when Pakhi made an issue after coming to know that Sai was also joining them. That shows the amount of trust Sai has on Virat. She saw Pakhi feeding Virat and moved out of the place. Sai has always thought that they have feelings for each other but she also had started to feel something to Virat, she has also felt jealousy, possessive, she is also feeling insecured but did that make her react this way, rushing to where the two are when they are alone?

When one says lack of trust, it means that if he had trust on Sai, he wouldn’t ask questions like what were you doing alone with Ajinkya in our room. That question was totally wrong. Whether or not he meant that she was doing something wrong, even asking such a question only means that he doesn’t have enough trust in Sai. He should be thinking that she would never think or move with any guy or have an affair with any guy when she is in a marital relationship with her. Let’s see how the scene plays out. If one has immense trust, even after seeing whatever he saw, they would only try to make themselves understand that Sai wouldn’t do anything like that. That would show the amount of confidence or trust in their partner. It is like thinking they would never do it, thinking he is probably misunderstanding the scenario. Not only did he misunderstand, he also started to beat that guy up as if he did something based on his assumption and asked her questions too. Let’s wait for the actual scene. Have said only based on what we have seen so far.

@bold see thats contradicting. He cannot say I did not call you characterless while asking what were you doing with AJ in the room with that accusing tone and beating up AJ. Like he himself says sometimes you don't have to use direct words, indirect words and actions mean much more than what you say.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

@bold see thats contradicting. He cannot say I did not call you characterless while asking what were you doing with AJ in the room with that accusing tone and beating up AJ. Like he himself says sometimes you don't have to use direct words, indirect words and actions mean much more than what you say.

Laksh has written about Virat's thoughts and you are writing about his words. Isn't it possible for him to say something he does not mean? People say things they do not mean in the heat of insecurity, fear, and rage all of the time. Isn't it possible for him to impulsively say these bitter and poisonous words even when that is not what he truly believes? I'm not saying that his words are justified. Of course they are not. Again, to me the real problem is not Virat's lack of trust towards Sai... it is his inability to control his emotions. We keep seeing this pattern over and over again.

Originally posted by: tptwi

I agree with most things you have said here. Obviously Sai is going to perceive that Virat is questioning her character. It doesn't matter if he calls her characterless or if she reads into his questioning and says it herself. Either way, the result is the same. To her, what other meaning could that question even have? Again, we have not seen how the scene plays out, so I will wait to comment further. But, what I was trying to get across in my post is that I do not believe that from Virat's perspective it is a lack of trust of Sai. He has no control over him emotions, especially when it comes to Sai, and that is the bigger issue here. The issue is his insecurities, which he does not know how to keep in check. But, how is Sai supposed to know any of this? To her, it is going to clearly appear as his lack of trust. So, in this way, I was simply trying to get both perspectives across.

Again, I began my post by saying that Pakhi-Virat and Sai-Ajinkya cannot be compared as a whole. My point in bringing up the pool scene was to show that both Sai and Virat say things they do not mean and act out of their impulses when it comes to each other. When the pool confrontation happened followed by the family zillat drama, my heart broke for Sai. The amount of pain this girl has been put through is unimaginable. I agree with you that it was completely justified for her to get upset and feel like he was playing with her emotions. But, the truth of the matter is that she only heard part of the conversation and did not give Virat a chance to explain himself, and she did indirectly accuse him of emotional cheating at the very least, even when she knew herself that was not the case. This was all out of the pain she was feeling about being brought back to the reality of the vaada after starting to think that this was all real.

What Virat has done here has been overdone and taken up way too many notches. I agree with that. But, what I am trying to say is that people say things they don't mean...they say really harsh things out of the fear of losing the people they love.

Virat almost blacks out when he is angry and loses control over himself entirely. He does not even realize what he is doing or what he is saying.

I am not saying that any of this is okay. But, I am just trying to understand and explain his perspective..

But i feel like Sai DOES and DID believe that virat is emotionally invested in pp. She does not trust that he is actually fully over pp although she acknowledges n sees him maintaining his distance and always being righteous. She sees hiw seriously he has taken this zimmedari to take care of her. but that does not change the fact that he had someone else in his life before her whom he felt like he loved so much that he made her a commitment to never give a place to anyother woman. And so she feels like emotionally he is still not over pp. She NEVER accused him or pp for that matter of actual "physical" cheating even in her outburst. But she does accuse both of them of having feelings for each other- pp obviously much more than virat and she even asked him even when he told her that he is not honoring any commitment to anyone- whether that was voluntary or he is just holding back because she is in his life now as a zimmedari and he feels like she will be hurt because even as a deal wife its hard to watch your spouse be invested in another woman.

Originally posted by: Nja91

But i feel like Sai DOES and DID believe that virat is emotionally invested in pp. She does not trust that he is actually fully over pp although she acknowledges n sees him maintaining his distance and always being righteous. She sees hiw seriously he has taken this zimmedari to take care of her. but that does not change the fact that he had someone else in his life before her whom he felt like he loved so much that he made her a commitment to never give a place to anyother woman. And so she feels like emotionally he is still not over pp. She NEVER accused him or pp for that matter of actual "physical" cheating even in her outburst. But she does accuse both of them of having feelings for each other- pp obviously much more than virat and she even asked him even when he told her that he is not honoring any commitment to anyone- whether that was voluntary or he is just holding back because she is in his life now as a zimmedari and he feels like she will be hurt because even as a deal wife its hard to watch your spouse be invested in another woman.

I guess firstly I don't agree that Virat made the vaada to Sai out of love for Pakhi. I don't think he ever loved her. Once again, he made it in the heat of emotions, not considering what its implications nor its consequences would be. But, obviously Sai does not know that. And the way Pakhi makes it seem, it's like they had some Romeo-Juliet type of unwavering love story and Sai ruined it all. So, Sai is obviously 1000% justified in feeling how she does. There has been no conversation where Virat has cleared any of this up to her. There have only been conversations where he is indirectly spinning jalebis, but at the end of the day, Sai is always left confused.

At the beginning, obviously Sai believed that Virat was emotionally invested in Pakhi. Why else would she think that Virat made the vaada to her? He in fact directly told her that. But, things have changed now. It is my perspective that Sai does see that Virat is completely over Pakhi, just like she sees that she herself is more than a zimidari to Virat. But, because all of this has been left uncleared to her, she is a constant flux between the vaada and what she can sense is the reality of her relationship with Virat. There is a reason that she always brings up the vaada and then contrasts it with the current state of their marriage. During the college festival fight, she tells Virat that he was the one to tell her not to expect anything from this marriage and now he is the one who is doing the opposite.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

@bold see thats contradicting. He cannot say I did not call you characterless while asking what were you doing with AJ in the room with that accusing tone and beating up AJ. Like he himself says sometimes you don't have to use direct words, indirect words and actions mean much more than what you say.

It is like this. He doesn’t have a bad opinion about Sai, doesn’t think that Sai would flirt with guys or have affair with guys but he reacted in a way that he shouldn’t have after he probably sees them in a compromising position. He would have misunderstood them and reacted that way. That is where the strength of the trust plays a role. His insecurity is blinding his eyes and faith, it has overshadowed his trust on her that he couldn’t even think that it would be nothing and Sai would never do that. When a person is already clouded with negative thoughts, fears something, is already fighting those fears, when the same fear comes true in an ugly way, in a way they wouldn’t have even imagined in front of them like this, their thoughts will also run in that direction without their own knowledge. They will be made to look at it with wrong eyes even though they never would have wanted to. His problem has only been that Sai shouldn’t leave him or Sai doesn’t fall in love with someone else.

Above is the reason why he asked her what she was doing with Ajinkya in the room. I feel that he couldn’t control his emotions and it came out as rage with such bitter words. It was like him asking her the other day too if not for him, will she be marrying Ajinkya. That day, the situation wasn’t like this. Anyway, he is wrong in reacting this way or behaving this way of asking her such questions. He crossed a line. Let’s wait and watch how the scene plays out. We don’t even know the actual scene and if they would show us whatever they have shown in SBS segment or the precap. Many a times, they have changed those and not included in the episodes. It most likely would but we have to wait for another day now 😒. Look at the day they chose to show this 🤣🤣.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Laksh has written about Virat's thoughts and you are writing about his words. Isn't it possible for him to say something he does not mean? People say things they do not mean in the heat of insecurity, fear, and rage all of the time. Isn't it possible for him to impulsively say these bitter and poisonous words even when that is not what he truly believes? I'm not saying that his words are justified. Of course they are not. Again, to me the real problem is not Virat's lack of trust towards Sai... it is his inability to control his emotions. We keep seeing this pattern over and over again.

Have just tried to explain this. That’s what I feel too. Yes, the real problem is his inability to control his emotions. That has to be addressed.

Originally posted by: tptwi

Laksh has written about Virat's thoughts and you are writing about his words. Isn't it possible for him to say something he does not mean? People say things they do not mean in the heat of insecurity, fear, and rage all of the time. Isn't it possible for him to impulsively say these bitter and poisonous words even when that is not what he truly believes? I'm not saying that his words are justified. Of course they are not. Again, to me the real problem is not Virat's lack of trust towards Sai... it is his inability to control his emotions. We keep seeing this pattern over and over again.

I am actually comparing his thoughts to his words and actions. Thought and words are inter related, especially in this case since he had these thoughts for a few days now since he first heard her talking over the phone. He has been probing her since then about him and Everytime Sai clarified he is just a friend. He even questioned himself why he is always thinking about AJ.

Coming to saying things in the heat of the moment which you don't mean , yes absolutely, people do say things in the heat of the moment which they might not really mean to. But saying things and accusing your wife by asking 'what were you doing in our room with AJ' can these 2 be compared?

Yes he definitely loses control on his emotions when it is related to Sai , be it when she got hurt or when he saw them together in the precap. I would have thought it was just plain emotions if he accidentally walked into them and misunderstood , but here he clearly blew up just by knowing AJ was in the room with sai and sprinted upstairs. Why would he run like that in anger if he trusted her, what is the reason other than confronting her?

I am waiting to hear what he says to sais question on Monday.

Originally posted by: laksh

It is like this. He doesn’t have a bad opinion about Sai, doesn’t think that Sai would flirt with guys or have affair with guys but he reacted in a way that he shouldn’t have after he probably sees them in a compromising position. He would have misunderstood them and reacted that way. That is where the strength of the trust plays a role. His insecurity is blinding his eyes and faith, it has overshadowed his trust on her that he couldn’t even think that it would be nothing and Sai would never do that. When a person is already clouded with negative thoughts, fears something, is already fighting those fears, when the same fear comes true in an ugly way, in a way they wouldn’t have even imagined in front of them like this, their thoughts will also run in that direction without their own knowledge. They will be made to look at it with wrong eyes even though they never would have wanted to. His problem has only been that Sai shouldn’t leave him or Sai doesn’t fall in love with someone else.

Above is the reason why he asked her what she was doing with Ajinkya in the room. I feel that he couldn’t control his emotions and it came out as rage with such bitter words. It was like him asking her the other day too if not for him, will she be marrying Ajinkya. That day, the situation wasn’t like this. Anyway, he is wrong in reacting this way or behaving this way of asking her such questions. He crossed a line. Let’s wait and watch how the scene plays out. We don’t even know the actual scene and if they would show us whatever they have shown in SBS segment or the precap. Many a times, they have changed those and not included in the episodes. It most likely would but we have to wait for another day now 😒. Look at the day they chose to show this 🤣🤣.

@bold so well put 👏

Just to make him feel miserable I want Sai to tell him she is in love with someone and is committed to him. Want to see what his reaction would be😂. I know very less chances but hope they give us such a scene.

Yup sbs to final episode is all dependent on the editors. So hoping things will not turn out so bad after all.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I am actually comparing his thoughts to his words and actions. Thought and words are inter related, especially in this case since he had these thoughts for a few days now since he first heard her talking over the phone. He has been probing her since then about him and Everytime Sai clarified he is just a friend. He even questioned himself why he is always thinking about AJ.

Coming to saying things in the heat of the moment which you don't mean , yes absolutely, people do say things in the heat of the moment which they might not really mean to. But saying things and accusing your wife by asking 'what were you doing in our room with AJ' can these 2 be compared?

Yes he definitely loses control on his emotions when it is related to Sai , be it when she got hurt or when he saw them together in the precap. I would have thought it was just plain emotions if he accidentally walked into them and misunderstood , but here he clearly blew up just by knowing AJ was in the room with sai and sprinted upstairs. Why would he run like that in anger if he trusted her, what is the reason other than confronting her?

I am waiting to hear what he says to sais question on Monday.

I had a different take on him questioning himself about AJ. This came right after Sai told him that she only remembers the phone numbers of important people and Virat himself is one of them. He had a smile on his face. Then, immediately he questioned himself why he keeps having these weird thoughts about Sai and AJ. Even he himself could not understand. This to me shows that he trusts Sai... because he knows that she would never cheat on him, and yet he is still having these weird thoughts. This is what insecurities do to a person. They make people have illogical thoughts, and even the individuals having these thoughts cannot control them.

I agree with you that him running upstairs in anger was overdone. I myself wrote somewhere else that he looked like a cartoon character. But, once again, AJ is all of Virat's insecurities personified. I just wrote this somewhere else, but if Virat believed that Sai was cheating on him, why did he try to ask who let AJ up first (multiple times in fact) instead of just running up the stairs and seeing what was happening? And, why was the first thing (according to the precap) he asked AJ what he was doing in their bedroom rather than directly questioning Sai? In the SBS segment, we also hear him asking AJ why he had to give the notes to Sai in their bedroom and couldn't do it somewhere else. So, I think there is more to this conversation that may help us better understand the situation. Let's wait to see what happens.

Either way, I agree with everyone that a line has been crossed regardless by him asking her in the way he did about what they were going in the room together. I just don't think trust is the issue.