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Posted: 4 years ago
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Thanks for tagging me! I love to write about them but it ends up getting complicated. But thats how their situation is, isnt it 🥱


For me, Virat and Sai are in different planes all together. They cant understand what the other is feeling because their focus is different from each other. If only they could 'talk', they will be on same plane. I always use this or listen this phrase at my work: when you want everyone in the team to be on the same plane regarding a project, you meet and 'talk'. Thats what they are missing.


There is definitely a strong bond between them. Virat knows it, he doesnt take it for granted. However he constantly is under threat of sai leaving him. He knows she is a brave, strong and an independent girl. She can chose a life of her own, man of her choice if she wants to and when she does, he will not be able to stop her. So his focus is solely on her, to the point of smothering her with his attention, his nagging and his control. The beautiful aspect about him is he doesn't take her for 'granted'.


Sai also feels this unexplainable bond with Virat. She knows she will not lose him at certain level. At the same time she does not see him as a romantic partner yet. It is very platonic still...but she trusts him completely that he is there and will be there for her, something that she shared with her father. With that trust, she takes him for granted. Not in a demeaning way, but akin to what she has for her father. Her main focus now is to find peace with the family.


Sai, all the hurtful things she says is to protect herself from the pain caused by her own insecurities. With pakhi's presence she feels like a second fiddle all the time when it comes to Virat. I can see through her here. She has this nagging pain that she is not his 'choice', not the 'desired' one for him. She was shocked yesterday when Virat said same words as Pakhi that by returning the gift she had hurt VIrat's feelings. She doesnt understand the hurt because she doesnt go beyond the words, words that are 'shared' by both. This also could be the reason why she cant get intimate with Virat or respond to his advances. She is highly 'insecure' in this space. So whenever situation comes where she is blamed by Virat, she brings in Pakhi to make sure that her husband ignores her in some way and it soothes her heart. poor thing. So whatever sai says, I dont see it as intentional. I see people being upset that she brings in Pakhi at the drop of the hat. But that is needed for her heart, she bringing it and Virat dismissing pakhi is the comfort that her heart needs!


Coming to invitation part, the stage where they are in, Sai should ask him to come and Virat 'should' go even if not invited by her. Sai asking him will give him needed attention he is seeking from her and Virat insisting on going will re-inforce her belief that she is important to him. I am hoping it happens today.

Edited by sadiltl - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl

Thanks for tagging me! I love to write about them but it ends up getting complicated. But thats how their situation is, isnt it 🥱


For me, Virat and Sai are in different planes all together. They cant understand what the other is feeling because their focus is different from each other. If only they could 'talk', they will be on same plane. I always use this or listen this phrase at my work: when you want everyone in the team to be on the same plane regarding a project, you meet and 'talk'. Thats what they are missing.


There is definitely a strong bond between them. Virat knows it, he doesnt take it for granted. However he constantly is under threat of sai leaving him. He knows she is a brave, strong and an independent girl. She can chose a life of her own, man of her choice if she wants to and when she does, he will not be able to stop her. So his focus is solely on her, to the point of smothering her with his attention, his nagging and his control. The beautiful aspect about him is he doesn't take her for 'granted'.


Sai also feels this unexplainable bond with Virat. She knows she will not lose him at certain level. At the same time she does not see him as a romantic partner yet. It is very platonic still...but she trusts him completely that he is there and will be there for her, something that she shared with her father. With that trust, she takes him for granted. Not in a demeaning way, but akin to what she has for her father. Her main focus now is to find peace with the family.


Sai, all the hurtful things she says is to protect herself from the pain caused by her own insecurities. With pakhi's presence she feels like a second fiddle all the time when it comes to Virat. I can see through her here. She has this nagging pain that she is not his 'choice', not the 'desired' one for him. She was shocked yesterday when Virat said same words as Pakhi that by returning the gift she had hurt VIrat's feelings. She doesnt understand the hurt because she doesnt go beyond the words, words that are 'shared' by both. This also could be the reason why she cant get intimate with Virat or respond to his advances. She is highly 'insecure' in this space. So whenever situation comes where she is blamed by Virat, she brings in Pakhi to make sure that her husband ignores her in some way and it soothes her heart. poor thing. So whatever sai says, I dont see it as intentional. I see people being upset that she brings in Pakhi at the drop of the hat. But that is needed for her heart, she bringing it and Virat dismissing pakhi is the comfort that her heart needs!


Coming to invitation part, the stage where they are in, Sai should ask him to come and Virat 'should' go even if not invited by her. Sai asking him will give him needed attention he is seeking from her and Virat insisting on going will re-inforce her belief that she is important to him. I am hoping it happens today.


Interesting take. I agree. Heres my 2 cents.

I think Virat by virtue of his realization of his feelings is in the phase where he is giving her a lot of attention and in return craving hers so much that its bordering on "silly/smothering/obsessive". Its not that his expectations from Sai are unreasonable but he is 10 steps ahead of her and needs to give her time/space to catch up to where he is. If Sai was on the same page as him, this would be fine coz it'd be the "honeymoon phase" where both of them could be all lovey dovey. But because Sai is not yet that far ahead and still has her guards up and is still insecure she doesn't understand him. She is seeing him "nag her" and doesn't get that he is just possessive and wants to spend all his free time ONLY with her and expects her to do the same.

Sai on the other hand trusts him with her life but not her heart yet. and rightfully so because its not easy for her to get over the fact that she is not his first choice or desired life partner. Virat is feeling jealous just at the mention of a boy in her life, imagine how it'd be if he heard that she actually had an ex boyfriend before him. Sai goes through that everyday. Seeing pp eveeyday is a reminder that she was a zimmedari shoved upon Virat and not his choice. So as much as she senses his care, his "love" she is bery wary. And thats exactly why she wanted clarity from him when she overheard him-pp. She wanted him to choose between his commitment or marriage. Even after he did, she wants to be 100% certain that this choice he made is out of his free will and not because he has no other option. to get over that insecurity of Virat having had "feelings" for another woman before his marriage to her will take time but its worse for Sai because the woman in question lives in the same house. And not just that, she has not accepted the truth and is nonstop interfering between Sairat deliberately creating MU and trying to show Virat and gharwaale that Sai is not a good wife/bahu. And most gharwaale are SO firmly on her side that Sai faces their venom day in and day out but she still stands tall with her chin up. Virat is not a blind to pp's intentions anymore and has done his best to be firm, clear with pp but theres a lot of previous leeway he granted her which makes Sai feel his ambivalence and his "soft corner" for pp which exists for many reasons- the past/the guilt/the regard for the current relationship starus of being his bade bhai ki biwi and the oldest bahu of the house and formality. But Sai gets more insecure by all this. So its harder for her to accept that Virat has truly moved on and will actually want to move on with her out of love and not out of any compulsion of maryaada/zimmedari etc. etc. In her mind she takes everything Virat says very seriously and almost always follows it but despite that she seems to end up disappointing him which makes her even more insecure. For her the gesture of giving pendant away was something she thought Virat would approve of because she was the bigger person, she amicably resolved the issue, she respected/honored the wish of ghar ki sabse badi, as a wife she took a call to fulfil an expectation BK had from Virat because she didnt like hearing things against him that he has changed etc etc but hearing him reiterate what pp said in those exact words made her feel really insecure again because it disproved what she confidently claimed that she knows virat better than pp. So Sai is just lost. She is trying her best to gain acceptance of the family because Virat wants it, and because if they accept her they will stop taunting Virat too for supporting his wife against them because Sai feels guilty when they accuse Virat of having "changed". She doesn't want to come between him and his family. She knows how important they are to him.

But as they warm up to each other, Sai n Virat both take liberties with each other out of familiarity, comfort and griwing intimacy. Virat feels like he can afford to vent his gussa on her because shes his wife, his Sai plus shes younger, he feels "responsible" for her, he feels "haq" on her. He doesn't take that liberty with anyone else. Similarly Sai talks to him in the same tone that she did with her aaba and UM. With a sense of haq again. She is blunt bordering on rude sometimes but she feels like atleast Virat who called her a naariyal can see past her hard shell unlike his gharwaale. She would like her efforts to be acknowledged and bear fruit but gets disheartened and disappointed when they dont. And she channels that either as humor or rage. Sometimes she jokes about how gharwaale treat her or in her bad mood she vents her frustration on the person closest to her- Virat.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC


I know I kind of went off topic sorry. But I just kind of vented here!

See the thing is I want Sai to progress and be communicative irrespective of Virat’s attitude or his mood swings.

I mean I look at her as a teenager who is handling way too much things for her age. I want her to grow as a person become smart and choose her battles and keep her core values. The bindaas attitude she has. You treat me nice I will treat you nice types. I want her to become wiser.

Sai need not have to be defined by only being Virat’s lover or wife. Though I ship her with Virat I would like to see her grow as a beautiful smart woman and doctor. Like Virat I want to be part of that journey.

I don’t know if I am making sense or going off topic again!


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Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

I know I kind of went off topic sorry. But I just kind of vented here!

See the thing is I want Sai to progress and be communicative irrespective of Virat’s attitude or his mood swings.

I mean I look at her as a teenager who is handling way too much things for her age. I want her to grow as a person become smart and choose her battles and keep her core values. The bindaas attitude she has. You treat me nice I will treat you nice types. I want her to become wiser.

Sai need not have to be defined by only being Virat’s lover or wife. Though I ship her with Virat I would like to see her grow as a beautiful smart woman and doctor. Like Virat I want to be part of that journey.

I don’t know if I am making sense or going off topic again!

Again saying u said nothing wrong to say sorry☺️. Just want to put my views about sai recent actions. I too want to see sai journey from being impulsive teenager to matured & tactful person. I agree her inviting chavans was not at all needed. But after seeing today episode I kind of understand why she is doing this. She unknowingly accepted them as family though she feels it is temporary family. She wants satisfaction like she too has family just like others. She understood they behave with her like that because she is orphan. And yes she has people who love her like virat, devi, pulkit, aai, mohit but their love couldn't stop her from feeling unwanted in that house. Virat makes her feel loved only inside 4 walls. Sai also sensed that how pakhi always instigats family against her. She wants them to accept her as family member, she wants to sense the feeling of having a family. That is why she invited them thinking them as family. But she is not doing it with the hope that they will accept her by attending function. For her she wanted to invite her temporary family & she did. According to her they made me do all bahu duties saying it is joint family but when I'm asking them to do something as family they r refusing it. When they force me to do things which I don't want then why can't I force them for the thing which is simple like attending a function. Why joint family rules only apply to me. It is not forcing them to accept her, it is to show family rules apply to them too. She said same in today episode. If she desperately wants their validation she would have changed herself as aswini who says no word when they taunt her & silently tolerate everything. But she can't be like that. No mahaan will say I did ehsaan on u so u should repay it kind of dialogues. She still gives them back when they mess with her. Love & family is her biggest vulnerabilities. Due to that she unknowingly accepted them as family though they don't treat her as one. Sometimes I feel angry with her because of her such actions but the moment she mentions how virat family behaves with her or how she has no one in her life. I feel for her. Whatever said & done she is wrong by inviting CN people for her function though I can get why she is doing it. But I don't think she became mahan by doing it. If she is typical mahaan fl she would have requested or begged them to attend her function instead of challenging them. Sometimes her intentions are typical fl types but her way of doing those things are typical sai Joshi types. That is the reason I enjoyed today episode. And about her asking pakhi to eat. First she was not ready to apologise, she even said they want me to apologise only to make me look down. She was about to leave the place but for a moment she stopped herself & thought what if pakhi didi is really not eating because of me. Sai one time said how she got to know about food value when she was starved for whole night during ousting time. She knows how it feels to be starved. So she never want others to face starving that too because of her. She apologized pakhi only for that sake. The scene should have ended by sai apologising. But vankar creativity for his favourite made sai think about pakhi eating in room too & find ways to make her eat. That was not at all needed. And sai don't need to be that much generous to pakhi. But that showed some other good points too. Virat being uneffected regarding pakhi not eating food, him clarifying he didn't feed pakhi by his own hand when kaku asked him to do so. That was much needed. Because that kaku asking him to feed pakhi scene ended abruptly many don't know whether he fed her or not. That scene gave some clarification & showed positive growth in his character regarding pakhi. This is my understanding of sai actions. For me yes sai went wrong in some things. And I don't mind her being called out for inviting chavans & asking pakhi to eat though I feel using words like mahanta r too much because she is still giving chavans back, still doing pakhi beizzathi, still point outing chavan people hypocrisy. Pov's may vary so I have no problem with it. I disagree with the part where she was bashed for the gift thing & been said she loves fighting with CN people even after seeing her breakdown. It is insensitive to say she wants spicy in life that's why fighting with chavans just because she invited them for function especially after seeing her telling how bad virat family makes her feel & she is orphan. Sorry for long post. Felt like sharing my opinion.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Forgot to tag in my earlier post.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

Forgot to tag in my earlier post.

Thanks 😊

Lovely post ❤️

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Posted: 4 years ago
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You nicely elaborated what my thoughts are!.


Yeah they are going through so much, both of them. There will be imbalances and confusions. I am enjoying the story a lot these days and look forward to their 'major' confrontations. Because every confrontation is a seal to their past issues. 👍🏼


The so giving Virat might pull back later, and pulling back Sai now would crave for his attention. The dynamics keep changing till they know what the other wants and gives it to them...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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As long as she chooses to stay in that house when she has clearly stated she can take care of her studies with her scholarship and her monwy frlm her Dad then she is at fault and all the drama that comes with it is pretty much self inflicted. If she does not love the man (which at this point she does not) there is no reason for her to be in his house and "endure" all she has to endure. So if her faults are over analysed and over amplified then am sorry but she is choosing this (not victim blaming because she has shown that she can walk away from this man and this family, has the means to do so so why stay?)


All this winning over his family, pacifiying Kaku with a necklace and Parkhi with promises to give up her rights on Virat...pointless drama if she is not trying to "win" Virat's affection which again at this point she isn't.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Don’t say that. She doesn’t see him in a romantic way yet. Otherwise she has already fallen in love with him. No?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaNaBa

As long as she chooses to stay in that house when she has clearly stated she can take care of her studies with her scholarship and her monwy frlm her Dad then she is at fault and all the drama that comes with it is pretty much self inflicted. If she does not love the man (which at this point she does not) there is no reason for her to be in his house and "endure" all she has to endure. So if her faults are over analysed and over amplified then am sorry but she is choosing this (not victim blaming because she has shown that she can walk away from this man and this family, has the means to do so so why stay?)


All this winning over his family, pacifiying Kaku with a necklace and Parkhi with promises to give up her rights on Virat...pointless drama if she is not trying to "win" Virat's affection which again at this point she isn't.

Winning over kaku, pakhi, virat 😂. She tries to win over them that's why she does pakhi beizzathi? She tries to win over kaku that's why she gives it back to kaku when she taunts her? She tries to win over virat when she herself don't want to accept her own feelings. Lol🤣. She is independent now, can take of herself but still that stupid girl stayed there because of her soft corner for virat. She decides to stay there so she deserves to endure all those what she is facing in that house 👏. No fault of that family & susheel bahu pakhi. And absolutely no fault of the person who stopped her from leaving that hell by using his pati haq when he can't even stop his family from attacking his wife. Instead he can brush it off her issues by asking her to adjust because at the end she choosed to stay so she deserves to face all these. Hmm okay☺️.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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@sadiltl & @nja91

What a wonderful analysis ❤️. You have beautifully covered all the major issues in their relationship.


Enjoyed reading both your posts so very much. ❤️

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