PS|EDT #35|The Curious Case of Shiva's Adbhut Plan and Missing Rishita - Page 20

Originally posted by: Miss_SR

Not that I want to get into a conversation between two people. But I want to say that I love your posts about ALL the characters 😭♥. They don't feel one-sided to me at all. Understanding a character and analysing their behaviours are not equal to supporting their actions. I hope you don't reduce them ❤.

I know I might be looking like a villain right now😆 but seriously I have no intention of hurting anybody's feelings. I am blunt about this because that's how I felt. It isn't just about Piu's analyses alone, it's about every single one of them that I have read so far.

People comparing Shiva to Lord Shiva, people commenting about much it pained Shiva himself to see Raavi in pain, people saying that Shiva realizes that he made a mistake and all that. It makes me feel bad for Raavi all that time, and it just angers me more. And that is why I think that people prefer Shiva because it is KD who is playing the character.

Piu, I know you didn't intend them to look like that but that's how I perceived it. People have different perceptions don't they, so please do not reduce your analysis posts just because I perceived it this way.

Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi

Yess....it's a TV show and we know shivi are a couple, so we know things will fall in place.but if we don't think about that for a moment and talk only about their present equation.

No-one has ever undermined raavi's pain.every sensible viewer of PS has empathized with raavi from day 1. Shiva's pain and suffering came to light much later.since the last few episodes many have started to connect with him and understand him, his side of the story is the focus since the last few episodes.he has done wrong, but he was called out for it by everyone in his family.raavi stood upto him.his mistakes are not brushed under the carpet.

He cannot respect raavi now, just as raavi cannot respect him.they both are in a compromised marriage for the sake of their families and the mess surrounding them hasn't allowed them to take any steps towards each other or think about their relationship.there is certainly a progression, but they have a long way to go.

It's not easy to respect and care for a person you have hated your whole life.

It's not easy to accept your childhood love's brother as your own husband.

They need time.these complications and mistakes will bring them closer.they need to realise that they are important to each other, and you don't realise the importance of someone till you are away from them.

Why can he not respect Raavi now? What has Raavi done to deserve disrespect from him? The way they got married, this compromise is not a reason enough for Shiva to treat Raavi like he does. I know that everything can be just happy-happy, but at least show us some sense that we can accept.

This could be a very beautiful journey to experience but there are a few things that are unacceptable.

It's not easy to respect and care for a person you have hated your whole life. - And is that hatred justified?

It's not easy to accept your childhood love's brother as your own husband. - But you can accept the brother who left that girl to die.

I am all in for complications, for separation tracks but as I said previously, a few things are unacceptable.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

But that's how you think, how some others think as well. But I have talked to some who believe that Raavi is taking sides with Maami, and that Raavi is not standing up for her husband. Recently, I read a post where someone called Raavi deaf, dumb, and mute. There was this post when someone was ready to slap Raavi for taking Maami's side and for not being a sensible daughter-in-law and wife who should not question her husband when he is right.

A woman has a delicate balance to keep in a marriage. One is for her family the other for her hubby and a part should be her self respect too. Maami is evil and there is no doubt. Shiva isn’t yet so inclined towards her, once he is I dont think they will choose anyone other than each other. So right now Self respect it is. And thats what she did. I liked her decision. She didn’t explicitly side with her aunt. Didn’t explicitly side with Shiva. What she did was for herself and thats completely commendable.

Originally posted by: Transference

Raavi has my heart; she represented everything a woman with self-respect would do! She should actually walk out of this marriage and teach Shiva a lesson.

And, as for Maami and her clan. She is PURE venom!

That would have been the most realistic outcome of it all ( since we're talking about reality, in real world, the Shiva-Raavi marriage would have never happened in the first place) . But it's ITV, they have to show reconciliation . So all I hope for is a redemption track with a strong apology for Shiva. But I'm highly skeptical about how the the CV's are going to handle it with their history of trivialising such major issues and resolving them with YKB moments and funny bgms .

Originally posted by: bhavna101

Why can he not respect Raavi now? What has Raavi done to deserve disrespect from him? The way they got married, this compromise is not a reason enough for Shiva to treat Raavi like he does. I know that everything can be just happy-happy, but at least show us some sense that we can accept.

This could be a very beautiful journey to experience but there are a few things that are unacceptable.

It's not easy to respect and care for a person you have hated your whole life. - And is that hatred justified?

It's not easy to accept your childhood love's brother as your own husband. - But you can accept the brother who left that girl to die.

I am all in for complications, for separation tracks but as I said previously, a few things are unacceptable.

She hasn't done anything.but can you respect the son/daughter of a person who has hurt your family?

Raavi is a gem of a person and shiva will realise it slowly.maybe this is the track which will let him to see raavi as a separate entity from maami.

Raavi has not accepted dev.she is just avoiding him.that is confusing for me also, but I would wait and watch to see how it unfolds.

We are seeing a lot of comments on Shiva's pain recently, because the last few episodes have been shiva- centric. The kangan track is all about him and maami , and raavi is a victim. Her pain is not trivialised, not by the makers and not by the viewers.

I would want you too see the previous episodes because reading the written updates is different from seeing a scene with the dlgs and expressions.

PS- I have read that you are on a break, so I assume you have not seen the previous few episodes of the kangan track. It's completely your choice if you are disturbed by shiva's behaviour and don't want to see it, at the end of the day it's just a TV show.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

I know I might be looking like a villain right now😆 but seriously I have no intention of hurting anybody's feelings. I am blunt about this because that's how I felt. It isn't just about Piu's analyses alone, it's about every single one of them that I have read so far.

People comparing Shiva to Lord Shiva, people commenting about much it pained Shiva himself to see Raavi in pain, people saying that Shiva realizes that he made a mistake and all that. It makes me feel bad for Raavi all that time, and it just angers me more. And that is why I think that people prefer Shiva because it is KD who is playing the character.

Piu, I know you didn't intend them to look like that but that's how I perceived it. People have different perceptions don't they, so please do not reduce your analysis posts just because I perceived it this way.

My message is purely for Piu's analysis and her beautiful caps and posts. I've seen them from the time I've joined this forum. There was a time when I didn't understand Raavi at all (when she kept blaming Shiva over everything) - it's Piu's analysis which help me understand her. There was a time when I didn't understand Dhara, Shiva, Suman...so many characters and behaviours, and her analysis helped me. The key word is understand, not accept. The analysis goes into childhood, explores the roles of others, and even society. She goes into historical backgrounds, she brings in the most apt quotes, she brings in society's most horrible qualities and applies it to PS. But she also posts separate things on the EDT which express her disgust or love on something. So yeah I defo don't want them to end. I just want to show her some love. Her analysis are something I often show my mum, and even she has so much praise for her. Maybe I don't say it enough but she's helped me enhance my knowledge ❤. But I understand that not everyone has to feel about it the way I do.

Don't think I don't want you to express your views any less. You are completely entitled to it ❤.

And I guess this is how I am ending my day here. I know I am in minority and the things I said today must have offended others. But that's how I truly felt. I hope that this is at least acceptable. I am not asking anybody to favor my views, neither am I expecting Shiva to suddenly change and put Raavi above everything else. But that woman deserves some respect.

To others, Shiva may seem like a boy who's been so hurt in the past, who had to grow up sooner because of his circumstances, a boy who had a traumatic childhood because of Maami. But nothing justifies the man he is today. This is why I question if he learned how to respect women who are not Suman or Dhara.

I abhor the way men and women are portrayed on ITV, and my main issue is with the content that we are subjected to and the way it is being perceived. Everybody sees the pain and tears of anguish in Shiva's eyes, everybody sees him reflecting on his mistakes but I do not.

I see a man, blinded by his anger, haunted by his past memories. Maami is an evil woman, everybody in PS knows that. Letting that evil woman fuel your anger and reacting so strongly to her provocations seem stupid to me.

I have apologized before, and I am apologizing again. Not for sharing my views but in case I hurt your feelings by saying all that I did.

Thanks

~Bhavna.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

I know I might be looking like a villain right now😆 but seriously I have no intention of hurting anybody's feelings. I am blunt about this because that's how I felt. It isn't just about Piu's analyses alone, it's about every single one of them that I have read so far.

People comparing Shiva to Lord Shiva, people commenting about much it pained Shiva himself to see Raavi in pain, people saying that Shiva realizes that he made a mistake and all that. It makes me feel bad for Raavi all that time, and it just angers me more. And that is why I think that people prefer Shiva because it is KD who is playing the character.

Piu, I know you didn't intend them to look like that but that's how I perceived it. People have different perceptions don't they, so please do not reduce your analysis posts just because I perceived it this way.

Ofcourse Yaar every person has Their own thought process koi kuch bhi soch sakta h jaise many of us hated Dhara due to the danda kaand but those who loves shiny appreciated her acting as a mother her potryal of emotions were fab issi tarah now the fans would be on two side aadhe jinhe Shiva se sympathy hogi aur baki jo raavi ko support karte h its part of loving h multi cast show Yaar I really don't want it to become like ishqbaaz jahan teen bhaiyon ki story they turned into shivika baki sabko side characters bna diya same way Gaura Shivi RishiDev and even mama mami all are an integral part of the show family show h Yaar jaise family main hota h we don't agree with someone we don't like someone from our own family sometimes toh fights hote h hurt hota h wahi sab show main hora h Yaar. Makers are giving us good episodes so just watch and enjoy

PS. Eventhough I love Shivi a lot a really don't want the show to revolve around them hope Iss kaand k baad kisi aur pair pr bhi focus kare

Shiva manhandling Raavi is definitely wrong but don't you think that's what sells in itv? I definitely get that Shiva must respect Raavi not because they are married but because she a fellow human, he's grown with her all his life, he hates her, manhandles her yet no one says a thing. One one hand I totally believe this is a result of carelessness from Shiva's family members. Had he been taught to atleast behave properly with Raavi, the manhandling stuff would have never come, on the other Raavi yells and gives back but never really makes it an issue, she gets so used to it that she started ignoring it. If this happens for real, Raavi would never like Shiva, probably not even treat him his family and call him a part of family.

Regarding Shiva using her for bargaining, that was a plain disgusting move, good that Raavi stood for her. Shiva not respecting her stems from his childhood, he never treats her like a girl, he treats her like a mere crazy person on whom he can totally vent his anger on. I've never watched the OG but still can tell Kathir would never treat Mullai like how Shiva does to Raavi. This part of manhandling is tailor made for the hindi audience, such characters are mostly treated heroes, most notably Ekta and Gul's shows.. The manhandling part gets covered up when he does something good. I would have still loved Raavi and Shiva if they fought verbally and don't go physical with each other. For a change Raavi called out on his wrong doings.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

And I guess this is how I am ending my day here. I know I am in minority and the things I said today must have offended others. But that's how I truly felt. I hope that this is at least acceptable. I am not asking anybody to favor my views, neither am I expecting Shiva to suddenly change and put Raavi above everything else. But that woman deserves some respect.

To others, Shiva may seem like a boy who's been so hurt in the past, who had to grow up sooner because of his circumstances, a boy who had a traumatic childhood because of Maami. But nothing justifies the man he is today. This is why I question if he learned how to respect women who are not Suman or Dhara.

I abhor the way men and women are portrayed on ITV, and my main issue is with the content that we are subjected to and the way it is being perceived. Everybody sees the pain and tears of anguish in Shiva's eyes, everybody sees him reflecting on his mistakes but I do not.

I see a man, blinded by his anger, haunted by his past memories. Maami is an evil woman, everybody in PS knows that. Letting that evil woman fuel your anger and reacting so strongly to her provocations seem stupid to me.

I have apologized before, and I am apologizing again. Not for sharing my views but in case I hurt your feelings by saying all that I did.

Thanks

~Bhavna.

Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion 🤗 I really do admire how you are sticking to yours and holding your ground.

I personally prefer to just comment on things that I completely agree to. Not one for even the slightest arguments 😆🙈