PS|EDT #35|The Curious Case of Shiva's Adbhut Plan and Missing Rishita - Page 19

Raavi has my heart; she represented everything a woman with self-respect would do! She should actually walk out of this marriage and teach Shiva a lesson.

And, as for Maami and her clan. She is PURE venom!

Originally posted by: Pixiepadhi

Itv does portray certain unrealistic things, if we think about it shivi marrying like that is also very illogical.

In real life, raavi would have realised sooner or later that Dev does not love her and this wouldn't have happened.we don't see forced marriages like itv In real life, which seems to be the USP of almost all shows nowadays.

I feel for shiva as much as I feel for raavi.

as much as we expect him to care for raavi, respect her he can't do that yet. They are not there yet. He is slowly getting there, and the progression is clearly visible.it will take its own time.

He is wrong, he will regret and apologize.he will do something to make it upto her.it will be interesting to watch how he does it.

It's wrong to expect raavi to stand up for shiva at this point, it is equally wrong to expect shiva to put raavi above everything else at this point.they are not the most important persons for each other now.

But that's the thing! We know that this progression will happen in the future and this is why Shiva is getting most of the support. That oh, hey! He'll regret it later, he will apologize, then things will progress and they will fall in love and be happily ever after!

Every analysis that I read, almost every comment ends up being in favor of Shiva in one way or the other. They talk about how much in pain Shiva's is, oh, how bad his childhood was, and all other things. I understand that he had a rough childhood but how come he turned out to be like this? The only women I see him respecting are Suman and Dhara, others don't matter at all!

And I am not expecting him to change overnight. I am not expecting him to put Raavi above everything else. But dude! She is his wife! Does she not deserve some respect? What has she done to deserve such mistreatment. Is asking him to respect his wife and not drag her into such messes too much?

Originally posted by: Transference

Since we are talking about abuse here, let's also address the emotional day to day abuse of Dev by Rishita.

We often laugh at men’s trauma, making it seem comical but right from the moment Rishita had entered Dev’s life as a partner, she has time and again made attempts to demean people and abuse Dev emotionally and Dev also, on the other hand, systematically abuses her with his patriarchal approach that women need to cook food.

There's a whole level of functional abuse in the PS family that exists.

The pain and abuse men go through is often underated, both in real life and itv.

Their pain is usually portrayed in a light hearted fashion, like a comic relief. I have even seen scenes where the man is laughed at for getting beaten by a woman...it's cringeworthy.

I would love to see both Dev and rishita's outburst about how they are treating each other, without any comical bgm or touch.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

But it's about his self respect here, not pride. I would still not like Shiva doing anything for maami at all. I would want him to find another way of reducing her pain and showing her that he respects her. I have no hopes or expectations though

I would definitely want a scene where he has a heart to heart talk with her and apologizes though

I have to say this mami business has helped me gravitate towards Dhara abit more. Like I haven't forgotten the danda situation, I was more upset about that they showed her as right rather than as a human who made a mistake. But this has shown me who's actually evil and who's not.

Originally posted by: ValleyOfPeace

I dont agree to this. She havent behaved in anyway to show who is primary or secondary to her. For now there is a delicate balance and she is keeping it. No action of hers indicate her giving priority. I like how she is holding both the sides equally straight.

But that's how you think, how some others think as well. But I have talked to some who believe that Raavi is taking sides with Maami, and that Raavi is not standing up for her husband. Recently, I read a post where someone called Raavi deaf, dumb, and mute. There was this post when someone was ready to slap Raavi for taking Maami's side and for not being a sensible daughter-in-law and wife who should not question her husband when he is right.

Originally posted by: Transference

Bhavna, you aren't getting what I am trying to say. I believe there's no point in taking this further as I don't ever give a one-sided picture of anything.

I DON'T support Shiva. So, let's not go round and round in circles trying to make it about me showing a side which supports Shiva. I have voiced my opinions about systematic abuse many times about everyone, including Shiva too.

My analysis or anything else is not absolute nor do I think it's the grand truth of things.

So, I really don't expect you or anyone else, as a matter of fact, to agree with it.

Forget ITV; I wouldn't endorse any violence towards men or women.

I have hated Suman for her patriarchal approach too.

What are we even trying to prove here?

I DON'T SUPPORT SHIVA’S ABUSIVE BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS RAAVI! I don't think I can be clearer than this.

You are probably asking this the third time whereas I have answered your question in my previous post.

Rest, YKB 🤗

I won't post pictures that will paint one sided truth.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

But that's the thing! We know that this progression will happen in the future and this is why Shiva is getting most of the support. That oh, hey! He'll regret it later, he will apologize, then things will progress and they will fall in love and be happily ever after!

Every analysis that I read, almost every comment ends up being in favor of Shiva in one way or the other. They talk about how much in pain Shiva's is, oh, how bad his childhood was, and all other things. I understand that he had a rough childhood but how come he turned out to be like this? The only women I see him respecting are Suman and Dhara, others don't matter at all!

And I am not expecting him to change overnight. I am not expecting him to put Raavi above everything else. But dude! She is his wife! Does she not deserve some respect? What has she done to deserve such mistreatment. Is asking him to respect his wife and not drag her into such messes too much?

Yess....it's a TV show and we know shivi are a couple, so we know things will fall in place.but if we don't think about that for a moment and talk only about their present equation.

No-one has ever undermined raavi's pain.every sensible viewer of PS has empathized with raavi from day 1. Shiva's pain and suffering came to light much later.since the last few episodes many have started to connect with him and understand him, his side of the story is the focus since the last few episodes.he has done wrong, but he was called out for it by everyone in his family.raavi stood upto him.his mistakes are not brushed under the carpet.

He cannot respect raavi now, just as raavi cannot respect him.they both are in a compromised marriage for the sake of their families and the mess surrounding them hasn't allowed them to take any steps towards each other or think about their relationship.there is certainly a progression, but they have a long way to go.

It's not easy to respect and care for a person you have hated your whole life.

It's not easy to accept your childhood love's brother as your own husband.

They need time.these complications and mistakes will bring them closer.they need to realise that they are important to each other, and you don't realise the importance of someone till you are away from them.

Originally posted by: SlytherInMe.

I was watching some VMs and now I have realized that bhukkad Shiva stares at his biwi whenever she's eating 🤣🤣🤣 sach mein iska attraction khane ke through hi jaata hai 🤣🤣🤣

1) Shiva watching Gaumbi feeding Raavi during pehli rasoi

2) Shiva watching Raavi eat kachoris

3) Shiva watching Raavi eat mangoes

🤣🤣🤣

pati ka dil, patni ke pet se jaata hai 🤣🤣🤣

🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is how a foodie falls in love🤣🤣🤣

Khud bhi khaata hai aur biwi ko khaate huye dekhke khush hoke taadta hai🤣🤣

Originally posted by: Transference

Bhavna, you aren't getting what I am trying to say. I believe there's no point in taking this further as I don't ever give a one-sided picture of anything.

I DON'T support Shiva. So, let's not go round and round in circles trying to make it about me showing a side which supports Shiva. I have voiced my opinions about systematic abuse many times about everyone, including Shiva too.

My analysis or anything else is not absolute nor do I think it's the grand truth of things.

So, I really don't expect you or anyone else, as a matter of fact, to agree with it.

Forget ITV; I wouldn't endorse any violence towards men or women.

I have hated Suman for her patriarchal approach too.

What are we even trying to prove here?

I DON'T SUPPORT SHIVA’S ABUSIVE BEHAVIOUR TOWARDS RAAVI! I don't think I can be clearer than this.

You are probably asking this the third time whereas I have answered your question in my previous post.

Rest, YKB 🤗

I won't post pictures that will paint one sided truth.

I have noticed this Piu, seriously. Maybe you didn't even mean to portray it that way, it's others how they are perceiving it this way. I have read so many such posts. And it isn't just about your analysis, remember me telling you just yesterday that I am finding myself agreeing to almost all of your analyses of yesterday's episode.

I am not saying that you are deliberately showing just one side of the story, I was implying how I perceived it, how others do. Everybody is thinking of how much pain Shiva is in, of how haunted his memories are. And that's what I do not agree with.

And I mentioned your name because I was talking to you. There are other people as well. Recently someone made a post saying that Shiva is like Lord Shiva and I was appalled.

And please, do not put this on me and say that you won't be posting those pictures with analysis. I am not against them, I like most of them but not the ones where everybody sees pain reflecting in Shiva's eyes, his tears being all about anguish and what not.

If you want to end this, then it's okay. Most of the members here do not favor my views anyway. I am just here for Raavi, and because I was told about how beautiful K & M's relationship was in the original version.

I sincerely apologize if anything that I said hurt you. It happens when I feel too strongly about something. I am really sorry if I hurt you, I really didn't mean it. It's just that I am greatly offended by what is being shown in PS these days.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

Will you still be able to be supportive towards a man who behaves like Shiva?

To answer this question, no I would not be supportive. Not at all. In fact, had this all played out in real life, I would've supported the decision for both of them to divorce (and quite honestly to not marry at all considering their history). In the one month they have been together, neither of them have been happy or content. It's been nothing but taunts coming from both sides.

Not just Raavi, no woman deserves a man who man handles. It's honestly very frightening to be manhandled by someone who is larger than you and has a power advantage. Even if you tried to fight, it would be a losing battle--as is the case of Raavi as Shiva can over power her at any moment should he wish to. He is also unpredictable at all moments. You never know what he's going to say, and all the "pyaare pyaare" moments we've been delivered thus far are half-baked at best for me. The good that we see through the "pyaare pyaare" moments cannot justify the bad of manhandling, giving up your wife for kangans, or emotionally abusive words like, "I wish your bones are broken."

It's why I've been ignoring the "pyaare pyaare" scenes as there is nothing "pyaare pyaare" if both of them don't even respect each other as human beings. The only icing on the cake though, is that Raavi gives it back to Shiva every time he disrespects her. She doesn't take it all in like other silent bahus. And that's what I love about her.

Originally posted by: bhavna101

Is Raavi important to him? No. If she was she wouldn't be his bargaining chip.

To answer this question. No, I don't think Raavi is important to him either. It's why he was so easily able to turn her into a bargaining chip. And I wouldn't expect him to act any other way considering their history. But, I do think he views Raavi in a different light compared to the other women in his life that's all. If Rishita said these same words Raavi said, I don't think he would've reflected. I think it's because Raavi told him he was wrong that it finally registered in his head.

Slightly off topic, but I've noticed the manhandling seems to be more prominent in Hindi ITV. Perhaps I steer clear of such shows, but the few Telugu shows I've watched there usually isn't much manhandling, and even if there was, it's usually not committed by the male lead (or it is committed very, very rarely). I think the best way to address the issue is to trend #StopManhandlingRaavi on Twitter. The CVs, I feel, don't realize the impact of showing manhandling since all the manhandling events are tied together with some sort of "pyaare pyaare" scene. Thus, any discussion is washed out by "I LOVE the pyaare pyaare moment." Therefore, it's best to bring it up to the CVs attention to stop scenes like this from continuing.

Anger can be portrayed in more ways than one. There is no need for hurtful comments or manhandling. Instead, Shiva can just give Raavi a silent treatment whenever he is angry. He can go punch a tree or angrily cut more logs to showcase his anger. I would honestly much rather see that as it would redeem his character in my eyes.

Now completely off topic, there was a Telugu show called Varudhini Parinayam which was a chart topper almost a decade ago. In that show, the male lead and female lead both despised each other, and it took them nearly 2 years to get together. There was no sort of "pyaare pyaare" scenes in between (i.e., eye-locks, feeding food, intense stares). Instead, the audience was treated with the female lead playing pranks on the male lead to make him annoyed and the male lead, unsuccessfully, playing pranks on the female lead. And in between all these pranks were the silent actions of support and trust (like the female lead helping the male lead secure a contract, the male lead supporting the female lead by performing all the wedding rituals despite not wanting to) Their relationship progressed slowly, but each episode was a step forward. And I truly wish ShiVi was portrayed more like this than the manhandling.