A Disconnect - Please discuss

Hey guys!

So this is something I noticed in terms of not just GHKKPM but a lot of the shows nowadays - they race from one story to another without actually establishing an emotional connect with the viewers.

Maybe it's because of the TRP race, but except one show on this channel, all the other shows juggle too many stories at once. And the thing which irks me about GHKKPM (except it being the only show I follow completely) is that because the story is almost lifted verbatim from a different show, the makers are hurriedly rushing up tracks. 200 episodes in, Virat has not questioned Pakhi's motives in front of his family even once. The leads separated, cried for a total of 1.5 episodes, and got back together. Where's the actual angst? Where's the redemption? I don't care that they haven't hugged properly once or not, but where's the actual slow burn? I know that it might come in the future, but where's the redemption for Virat and Sai? Virat still hasn't started asking his family to shut the eff up for insulting his wife day in and day out and Sai still hasn't learnt to stop meddling in everybody's business. Why is there no focus on Mohit's or Ashwini's emotional turmoil while living in this hell hole? What happens when Mohit supports Sai in front of everyone - does Karishma have a problem with it? Has he confronted his father for what he did? The only time we see these characters in in the Zillat arena. They have absolutely no lives except in terms of S-V-P triangle. Isn't that what a family drama should be? Why not focus on that - use the ensemble cast for something. Almost every single day, the scene is all the people in a circle/semi-circle just verbally assaulting each other? Where's the depth?

The ML is KD was a hothead and was like that with everyone. Even with Pakhi's character after she made her motive clear to him. It made some kind of sense for someone with his temperament to throw out Sai.

But Virat is more mild-mannered. He is shown to be torn between standing up for his just wife or respecting his "friend" in front of the family. Which is why it is a disconnect to have him throwing said wife on the streets. He is shown to be just and unwilling to compromise on his ideals in GC, but shows little to no recollection of these traits when it comes to his own family. Either they should have made him like KD's ML or they should have tweaked the story to fit his character.

Similarly KD had no kidnapping track. In fact, the Kaku there was shown to be a little guilty about separating a mother and child - she kept the child close to family in some manner. It doesn't absolve her but it makes her a little more grey-humanish. Here, Kaku sent her own freaking grandchild to the orphanage. Much more inhumane and harder to forgive.

However the punishment (or lack thereof) is going to be like KD. How is that okay? For CVs who preach that they know the human psyche, would it make sense for someone with Virat's moral compass to completely reconcile with his family? When they copy pasted everything from KD, why not the crimes (I'll forget the kidnapping because of extenuating circumstances at that time) and the character of the ML? I mean, I think Virat HAD a better sketched out character than the other two versions, but now he is the most pendulum like character on the show.

Another thing is the speed of dialogues. I don't know if anyone else has felt this but sometimes I just want play the show at a higher speed because a lot of the characters speak the dialogues in a slightly slower speed. It somehow decreases the urgency of the scenes like in today's revelation or when Virat came back from the hospital. I get that Virat is mild-mannered and soft-spoken but some situations require a certain amount of "pizzazz". Maybe that one is just me.

The rant is not because I hate Virat or Sai or the show. It's just my opinion as a viewer who really likes the couple.

I hope the writers either copy the entire story and not just the parts they like or try to tweak the story so that it makes more sense for the characters they themselves created to react in certain ways.
Or else, it becomes a mockery of the actors, the viewers, law enforcement and the writers.

Please leave behind your views. I'd love the have a rational discussion if someone wishes!

I agree with everything here except the part, “Sai hasn’t stopped interfering in everyone’s business”

she isn’t going around reforming the society. She’s responding to the injustice she saw in-front of her eyes, to someone whom she calls family (Ashwini, Devyani, Shivani, Mohit). Do we want someone who is mute on the face of injustice? I certainly don’t. These qualities of Sai resonate w the audience.

Originally posted by: idkwhattoput

I agree with everything here except the part, “Sai hasn’t stopped interfering in everyone’s business”

she isn’t going around reforming the society. She’s responding to the injustice she saw in-front of her eyes, to someone whom she calls family (Ashwini, Devyani, Shivani, Mohit). Do we want someone who is mute on the face of injustice? I certainly don’t. These qualities of Sai resonate w the audience.

I don't think she should ever stop fighting for what is right. Be it Mohit or Aai or Devi. What I meant is something like Devi and Kaku's relationship. As a doctor (not a psychiatrist, but still), the last thing I would want my patient to revisit in the first week after finally escaping the hell she lived in, is her tormentors. She's a righteous character, so it seems unpalatable to me that she would want Devi to be close to her kidnapping, feeding her wrong pills, trying to get rid of her child mother, that too so early in her recovery.

I would have the same reaction as her sister. It made no sense to me to introduce Devi back to her family so early on.

Everything you have brought up came be summed up as "logic fails". Unfortunately itv show mein we cant expect logic. We are just grateful lead couple has amazing chemistry that they can lift even bad writing/screenplay and make the show watchable. Its unfortunate that instead of using the original show as template they have lifted scenes that make no sense especially coz they made some changes to Sai/Virat as characters compared to KD. Just hope that maybe like tamil version these guys will also make changes. Since KD had Sunny not Harini hopefully, ghkpm track will get better. Trying to channel optimism.

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

I don't think she should ever stop fighting for what is right. Be it Mohit or Aai or Devi. What I meant is something like Devi and Kaku's relationship. As a doctor (not a psychiatrist, but still), the last thing I would want my patient to revisit in the first week after finally escaping the hell she lived in, is her tormentors. She's a righteous character, so it seems unpalatable to me that she would want Devi to be close to her kidnapping, feeding her wrong pills, trying to get rid of her child mother, that too so early in her recovery.

I would have the same reaction as her sister. It made no sense to me to introduce Devi back to her family so early on.

CN is Devi’s house too, Sai wanted to make the environment less hostile for her so she can visit anytime she wants but Virat still wanting to celebrate bday of Harini with these people is off putting.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Everything you have brought up came be summed up as "logic fails". Unfortunately itv show mein we cant expect logic. We are just grateful lead couple has amazing chemistry that they can lift even bad writing/screenplay and make the show watchable. Its unfortunate that instead of using the original show as template they have lifted scenes that make no sense especially coz they made some changes to Sai/Virat as characters compared to KD. Just hope that maybe like tamil version these guys will also make changes. Since KD had Sunny not Harini hopefully, ghkpm track will get better. Trying to channel optimism.

I understand trying to be optimistic. That's why we've all stuck around for 200 episodes. But it bothers me that despite these being characters that the showrunners have written, they never bother creating a consistency in terms of their moral and social reactions. Especially the zillat arena. Virat says something in the bedroom and stays silent in the arena.

An example of disconnect - The writers let Pakhi mouth off everyone including Ashwini, but there are no repercussions to it. In fact, considering how much they love Pakhi, they could show us why she talks to Ash like that or her dilemma that she is Virat's mother but doesn't see her love or something like that. I mean what happens to all the 10 characters once they go back from the living room? Even in shows like Kyunki Saas, they used to show all the characters' lives (there were almost 50 😆). Still the audience could picture Daksha or Mohini's room. Here even the leads have a room with ever-changing doors and statues. The CVs are so busy in showing the huge dramas and big romantic gestures, that they forget the minute things that are a difference between a run-of-the-mill show and a great one.

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

I understand trying to be optimistic. That's why we've all stuck around for 200 episodes. But it bothers me that despite these being characters that the showrunners have written, they never bother creating a consistency in terms of their moral and social reactions. Especially the zillat arena. Virat says something in the bedroom and stays silent in the arena.

An example of disconnect - The writers let Pakhi mouth off everyone including Ashwini, but there are no repercussions to it. In fact, considering how much they love Pakhi, they could show us why she talks to Ash like that or her dilemma that she is Virat's mother but doesn't see her love or something like that. I mean what happens to all the 10 characters once they go back from the living room? Even in shows like Kyunki Saas, they used to show all the characters' lives (there were almost 50 😆). Still the audience could picture Daksha or Mohini's room. Here even the leads have a room with ever-changing doors and statues. The CVs are so busy in showing the huge dramas and big romantic gestures, that they forget the minute things that are a difference between a run-of-the-mill show and a great one.

Even after all this, TRP is still high so they don’t care

Originally posted by: idkwhattoput

CN is Devi’s house too, Sai wanted to make the environment less hostile for her so she can visit anytime she wants but Virat still wanting to celebrate bday of Harini with these people is off putting.

Why? If Kaku or Devi want a reconciliation later on, why can't they do it themselves? Sai is actually the best character on the show and so I have greater expectations from her - she doesn't think that even after a wedding, Devi/Pulkit/Harini could be harmed by people who have already done drugging/kidnapping/throwing into an orphanage to them respectively? Is she dumb enough to believe that years of hatred are going to be dissolved in a week? It should have been left up to time and medications. Just because she is leaving, doesn't mean that Devi's life should be rushed up any more. Sai and her fake doctor husband should have given her time to recuperate before bringing her to the same place they both tried so hard to get her away from.

Elders are elders. But not everyone deserves the kind of "respect" they seem to be showing Kaku and her cronies, considering the actual crimes they have committed.

Originally posted by: idkwhattoput

Even after all this, TRP is still high so they don’t care

I know. Which is why my rant is on a forum - we are the only people who care about nuances and consistency 😆 The tv audience doesn't I know.

And that is the same for all SP shows. All shows from 6-11 pm are the slot leaders because of no competition from any other channel. KB and CS were slot leaders for a while but didn't hold on for long. So people now just sit and enjoy and garbage they serve us.

I miss the days people used to shuttle between watching Kasauti/KSBKBT/KGGK on one channel, Kusum or Jassi Jaisi on the other and Kasamh Se on a third. Now it's just SP all the way. Not because SP's quality went up, but because the most of the others' just dropped completely. 😳

I agree, I am so confused at the moment. I have liked Virat from the beginning and I had lost trust in the character after the ousting. Like you have said, they have been rushing and not even showing his redemption properly.

Firstly, I was expecting that Virat doesn't oust her from the house. I thought that there might be a fight and Sai will decide to leave. It took a while for me to be able to let go of that. And he doesn't seem to be even thinking about what he had done. Again, the makers haven't thought that it is important to show him regretting his actions. We did see him feeling sorry, but I couldn't see that after Sai had forgiven him in the hospital. He even asked Sai once as "tum bhool paogi" or something when she spoke about the ousting unintentionally during their conversation. Though the question didn't make sense, it atleast made us feel that he realises how much it would have affected her. She had even shared that she never expected it from him and how much it had hurt her. Him worrying if she would accompany him home also showed us that he realises that Sai won't be able to forget whatever happened and that is why she doesn't want to return to his house. They showed it at the doorstep of CN too when he noticed that Sai was reminded of that night.

But after they entered their room and when Sai was asking if he had not thrown her things saying that she expected him to since he was very angry on her, they decided to give a dialogue to him asking her not to talk about it? How can they? Was that not a time for him to realise that it would be hard for her to even forget that incident and to try to understand how much it would have affected her. Instead they decided to put an end to that topic by giving him the dialogue asking her not to bring it up. And I haven't seen her thinking about it till now or him reflecting on his actions again.

Why this rush? Why couldn't they have shown both of them opening up when the topic came up? He could have apologised to her again this time saying that he shouldn't have done it at all. Could have shared about what he felt that night that made him lose control? They want to rush to the Devi Pulkit lunch and it didn't make sense at all. Firstly, who even discharges the next day after a person gets shot? There is no logic at all in the show. They could have said a few days later if they needed but no, it was like

DAY 1 Holi, Devkit wedding, Sai ousted

DAY 2 Pulkit proved innocent

DAY 3 Virat visits GC to apologise to Sai

DAY 4 Virat leaves for a mission and gets shot. Sai tries to visit him at the hospital.

DAY 5 Virat gains consciousness, Sai meet him and then gets discharged on the same day? Sai snd Virat return to CN.

DAY 6 Devi Pulkit is invited for lunch

DAY 7 Virat goes to hospital for check up

DAY 7 Harini's birthday celebrated

Does any of these make sense? They have only been rushing things. As you say, I don't want a hug or kiss, a proper emotional scene where they speak about the incident. How does it makes sense to ignore such a big thing and move on as if nothing happened? The girl obviously must be in trauma and why not focus on that first before any Devi or Pulkit or even a birthday?

Why are they not showing Sai studying at all? Isn't it her dream to become a doctor, as long as she took care of Virat, it made sense. She then started to plan for lunch and invited newly weds? She then shops for birthday party? Didn't she ask Ashwini to take care of Virat when she starts attending college? Didn't they invite Pulkit for lunch on Sunday? Let's say she took a day off to take Virat to hospital on Monday, she plans a birthday party because Virat wanted the next day without attending college? Didn't Virat himself say that her studies was affected due to a lot of things, then why didn't he think of it before asking her to help him arrange the party? Is Sai's character not someone who is very focussed? Why didn't she say that she can't skip her college or why can't they show that this is all happening after she returned from the college? Or they could have showed all of these happening over a few days, while showing her attending college in the day time.

Yes in KD, the child of Rono's bua was not given away to an orphanage and here they have done that and yet they will all act as one happy family to celebrate the same child's birthday? Pulkit is also okay with everything even

- after he was separated from his wife,

- after his child was given away to an orphanage (there were always chances that he might not have even got the child back if he had no information)

- after he had come to know that Devi was given some wrong drugs

- after they had tried to separate them again using some false evidence and kidnapping, thereby giving pressure and trauma to Devi in the condition she was in?

What are they trying to show us?

Virat will reconcile with this family who had put his sister through so much of misery, who had separated her from not just her husband but also from her child who now refuses to accept Devi as her mother. Didn't he say before he tried to convince Sai for the party that he thought that his sister got all happiness and that even Kaku accepted her but never knew that she is again facing problems like this wrt Harini? And he will be okay with them now?

As you have said, they could have shown him as Rono forever, I wouldn't have got this attached to a character named Virat and would have found it difficult to digest this kind of a behavior from him. He acts like Virat when he is mad at Pakhi or his family members and becomes Rono when he is mad at Sai. Whom am I looking at? This is all too messed up. They could have easily skipped a few tracks or if they were keen on following all the tracks from the original version, shouldn't have shown so much variation in the characters.