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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Jo ladki har do minute kisi ke pairon mein girti hai, woh officer banegi? And the man who claims he will spend his whole life fighting to help her achieve her potential also does nothing more than making her stand up when she falls to someone's feet?


Iska bhi jawaab diya na kal. Pair padna is showing respect to elders apparently. Girti rahegi show ke end tak kyunki isski age badhe na badhe, makers ka dimag toh jam gaya hai 🤷🏻‍♀️


What they showed her so was in no way regular showing respect but woh toh sirf humko dikhta hai 😔

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Posted: 4 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Sorry what? Flirting with Adi behind Didi's back? Is that how you saw it?😆 We'll have to disagree on that point then. You make her sound so calculative when that wasn't what she was doing.


She was always shown holding on to her faith on her own level and never compelling others to think like her.....this was obvious the most in the case of the whole believing Adi to be her husband situation where she told him he has the right to believe what he does while she will stick to her beliefs....she never compelled or forced him to accept anything.....she stuck to her own unconventional beliefs even if someone pointed out the impracticality of them. That is what I meant by her independent streak.


The difference in her now is that she has started keeping conditions in front of people which she didn't do before.....so yes, part of that does involve her realizing that she has some leverage with Adi now since he is always professing love for her and wanting her to be with him.....Adi does zidd so she does her own zidd in turn....that ends up being more of a back and forth rather than some grand overarching plan to compel him. She is not keeping anything on indefinite hold....lol her stance is basically that if Malini can't be happy, we are also over and that's that......lol she is ready to walk away at a moment's notice from Adi....so that's not even coercion.....that's a total lack of ability to think for her own relationships or herself....she is ready to finish everything in her life on a moment's notice without thought....that doesn't show any sense of real calculation but more a complete lack of self-preservation or regard for self.


But she is absolutely trying to force her views on Malini right now out of her own sense of guilt....In Adi's case, she atleast has that sense of knowing she matters in his life for her to try to leverage.....lol Malini has long since dropped even the token behenchara facade but Imlie is acting like she has some made up right over Malini's life to dictate terms to her......that's why it's looking more disconnected.


It's all very poorly written right now but underscoring all this is a self-worth issue for Imlie where she is not fully ready to own her status as Adi's wife or the bahu of T family.....but that isn't being addressed dhang se since it's all just getting diverted into Didi bhakti discussions or Adi also just being fixated on immediate fixes rather than trying to understand the underlying causes of what's driving Imlie's stances.


Thanks for your perspective :) I did not mean to make it sound like imlie is calculative or she is trying to control people around her as if they some puppets. What i was trying to get at was conscious and sub-conscious reasons for imlie's actions. On the surface its always about "didi's khusiyan" but sub-consiously her actions are driven by her own guilt and fears. On hindsight compel is also terrible word to put my point across.

Imlie did not ever force Aditya to commit to their relationship and always respected his choice in the matter. Yes, she does hold on to her unconventional belief system and is independent in her thoughts. And she never once forced these beliefs on anyone else.

After Aditya married Malini of his free will, she let go of all her rights on him and considers Malini to be his true wife. Though he will always be her husband. Aditya's love her brought her immense happiness and guilt. She could not live with herself if she was the reason for AM's break up. But her love for Aditya was equally strong. She could not live away from him either. So for her easiest way out was let Aditya fulfil his obligation towards malini while she continues to be a maid at his house.

This period when she did not have to face her feelings of guilt, showed us what Aditya and Imlie's relation can be - general playfulness, innocence, sunshine, happiness and banter. A trivial word like flirting cannot do justice to what they share.

But she was not ready to face her guilt and considers her feelings for him wrong, so She did try to use her hold over Aditya to hide the truth from malini. But all this was more to assuage her guilt than to control him.

Even now, she committed the greatest sin in her book. Broke her Malini didi's heart because she has feelings for Aditya and this is wrong. She feels guilty enough to fall on Malini's feet, but this guilt alone is not enough for her to let go of Aditya. She wants him enough to be a maid again even when she knows that family or most of the family hates her.

She will not let herself be happy unless Malini is happy. She is a sinner and how can a sinner be happy without atoning for her sins? Her sin is that she took away Aditya from Malini's life. She created a void in Malini's life. So she cannot start her life until she fills this void. Hence the need for ghar bhasaoing activity of Didi.

But if this is the only reason, why cant they tell the truth to the family that imlie is ghar ki bahu, but still keep their marriage on hold till Malini marries? This way Imlie wont be completely happy as she atones her sins. Its not like family will welcome accept her with open arms right? There would still be hell to pay on that front.

I feel here here insecurity and self worth issues come in. She believes the family wont accept her and might kick her out of aditya's life? Or if Aditya leaves the house for her he wont be completely happy and she will also be the reason for family's misery. Either way she is not ready to face the consequence of this truth reveal.

On the surface her didi jaap and didi ka ghar basaoing make her sound like a regressive moron. But when we look at the her conscious and sub-conscious reasons, Imlie is a well written and complex character. I hope they potray her like that.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: MuteButton


Iska bhi jawaab diya na kal. Pair padna is showing respect to elders apparently. Girti rahegi show ke end tak kyunki isski age badhe na badhe, makers ka dimag toh jam gaya hai 🤷🏻‍♀️


What they showed her so was in no way regular showing respect but woh toh sirf humko dikhta hai 😔


Lol toh wohi main bhi bol rahi hoon ki “elder” toh Adi bhi hai. Uske pair bhi pado phir pura din by this “logic”.....why is Didi the only “elder” jinko respect dene ke liye naak ragadni hai unke pairon mein?

They don’t just make Imlie touch people’s feet out of respect, they show her groveling at people’s feet by literally rubbing her nose on the ground beneath them. That will never look “respectful” by any measure.


And as others here have pointed out, kis baat ka tamasha hai yeh sab abhi bhi when she now knows the truth? Imlie is still acting like she’s the husband snatcher. lol before and after mein koi farak nahin toh why bother with the truth? It’s not about respect, it’s not about sisterly love, it’s a pure slave mentality that Imlie has when it comes to Malini. She has fully accepted herself as Malini se inferior and beholden to her all her life. Even if it’s repeated a 100 times that she didn’t choose to take Adi from Malini, Imlie will still keep acting like she is Malini’s culprit 🤷‍♀️.....and Malini also only does token pushbacks about Imlie being the true bahu now. Lol baaki toh shakal pe resentment dikh hi jaati hai. Yeh achha hai ki saari bhadaas is justified from Didi ki side but Imlie doesn’t deserve any happiness without feeling beholden to Didi 🤷‍♀️.



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Posted: 4 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Lol toh wohi main bhi bol rahi hoon ki “elder” toh Adi bhi hai. Uske pair bhi pado phir pura din by this “logic”.....why is Didi the only “elder” jinko respect dene ke liye naak ragadni hai unke pairon mein?

They don’t just make Imlie touch people’s feet out of respect, they show her groveling at people’s feet by literally rubbing her nose on the ground beneath them. That will never look “respectful” by any measure.


And as others here have pointed out, kis baat ka tamasha hai yeh sab abhi bhi when she now knows the truth? Imlie is still acting like she’s the husband snatcher. lol before and after mein koi farak nahin toh why bother with the truth? It’s not about respect, it’s not about sisterly love, it’s a pure slave mentality that Imlie has when it comes to Malini. She has fully accepted herself as Malini se inferior and beholden to her all her life. Even if it’s repeated a 100 times that she didn’t choose to take Adi from Malini, Imlie will still keep acting like she is Malini’s culprit 🤷‍♀️.....and Malini also only does token pushbacks about Imlie being the true bahu now. Lol baaki toh shakal pe resentment dikh hi jaati hai. Yeh achha hai ki saari bhadaas is justified from Didi ki side but Imlie doesn’t deserve any happiness without feeling beholden to Didi 🤷‍♀️.


Wohi toh maine bhi kaha. Respectful toh kisi bhi angle se nahin tha. Guilt mein aake gir gayi. Woh khud apni izzat nahin karna chahti toh why should anyone else bother really.


Malini kahaan token push back kar rahi thi. Her responses do not even sound token anymore. Poora ka poora resentment se bhara pada hai.


I have no idea why they had to butcher Mithi also in between to justify whatever garbage they are throwing our way. Iss se accha woh aati hi nahin Delhi. Nothing changed at the end of the day and instead she made Imlie more determined to flog herself 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Posted: 4 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: jojo_mojo


She will not let herself be happy unless Malini is happy. She is a sinner and how can a sinner be happy without atoning for her sins? Her sin is that she took away Aditya from Malini's life. She created a void in Malini's life. So she cannot start her life until she fills this void. Hence the need for ghar bhasaoing activity of Didi.

But if this is the only reason, why cant they tell the truth to the family that imlie is ghar ki bahu, but still keep their marriage on hold till Malini marries? This way Imlie wont be completely happy as she atones her sins. Its not like family will welcome accept her with open arms right? There would still be hell to pay on that front.

I feel here here insecurity and self worth issues come in. She believes the family wont accept her and might kick her out of aditya's life? Or if Aditya leaves the house for her he wont be completely happy and she will also be the reason for family's misery. Either way she is not ready to face the consequence of this truth reveal.

On the surface her didi jaap and didi ka ghar basaoing make her sound like a regressive moron. But when we look at the her conscious and sub-conscious reasons, Imlie is a well written and complex character. I hope they potray her like that.


@bold1: And what a tragedy that not a single character in this show does the simple act of telling Imlie that she's not a sinner....that perception is allowed to perpetuate based on surface presumptions about the events that unfolded.....Rupi ne bhi bas token bhaashan diye about Imlie ka pehla haq but never really did anything to assuage Imlie's guilt regarding this. Adi apne hi frustrations mein busy hai.


Where exactly is Imlie's sin in all this, can someone articulate? Has she ever coveted someone else's husband? All this while she has only been devoted to her own husband....if it was such a sin, why call it SM ka aashirwaad all this time? It can't be both simultaneously, can it? This is a forced guilt trip cuz no one wants to deal with Malini maturely....she has been coddled from day one by every character in this story and she still continues to be coddled by her so called younger sister......lol this again makes me laugh that Imlie must touch the feet of an "elder" Malini didi but still otherwise treat Malini like she's some toddler whose emotions have to be micro-managed.


Instead of talking about the actual issues in AM's relationship, the delusion is allowed to perpetuate that it's only falling apart cuz Adi's first wife turned out to be Imlie.....the presumptions are allowed to fester and then they end up becoming "reality" as Imlie calls herself a sinner undeserving of happiness and all people can tell in her response is that KC is real? 😕😆



@bold:2: Yes, that is Imlie's real issue....she is not ready to face the consequences of the full truth and how that will transform all her relationships in that house. The didi jaap and Didi ki matchmaking are tangible things that she can busy herself in rather than reflecting on her own emotions, her sense of self....she's always been shown deflecting from doing deep reflections....assigning absolutes to something makes it easier for her to process things - like the absolute of Adi being her husband, like the absolute of her faith in her SM.....the grey areas in between absolutes seem to defeat her many times emotionally....she retreats into a shell or finds ways to deflect.


The sad part is that the writing is so poor on this front for her and the writers have shown a clear preference for propping up Malini at Imlie's cost, so the hope continues to be diminished that these convos will ever actually happen.....will Adi ever realize how he needs to address Imlie's self-worth issues? Or will a switch just be magically flipped one day once the truth is out to the family and that's that in terms of "acceptance"? lol the rate at which they are going, I really can't say.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


Matt dekho save yourself the horror yeh lo agar bekaar sa adi imlie scene dekhna hi hai.. which really is equal to dekhna na dekhna ..




Good idea... waise bhi philall time ki bahot kami hain 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: MuteButton


Wohi toh maine bhi kaha. Respectful toh kisi bhi angle se nahin tha. Guilt mein aake gir gayi. Woh khud apni izzat nahin karna chahti toh why should anyone else bother really.


Malini kahaan token push back kar rahi thi. Her responses do not even sound token anymore. Poora ka poora resentment se bhara pada hai.


I have no idea why they had to butcher Mithi also in between to justify whatever garbage they are throwing our way. Iss se accha woh aati hi nahin Delhi. Nothing changed at the end of the day and instead she made Imlie more determined to flog herself 🤷🏻‍♀️


Oh is it? LOL well I actually didn't watch the full epi😆.....just the Adi-Imlie scene.....Behen Milaap ki bakwaas jhelne ka patience nahin bachaa mujh mein and anyways the scenes are daily rinse/repeat for all the equations these days......but it sounded in the precap like Didi was trying to play mahaan about how Imlie should take her place in the house.....lol.....so any surface viewing will make it seem to someone like Didi is being so considerate towards the person supposedly replacing her in that house😆


Sabse bakwaas musical chairs in the story right now is everyone trying to do passing the parcel ki tum sach bataa do, nahin tum sach bataa do.....lol


Didi ofcourse as always not having the guts to reveal any truth on her own and needs someone else to dictate it for her or take the choice out of her hands so that she can play bechaari damsel.


Imlie on her mahaanta trip/escapist trip ki I can't handle the truth ke ramifications so better to focus on Didi ka dard😆


Adi busy in his usual frustration ki sach bataane nahin diya toh main baaki bhi koi kaam dhanda nahin kar sakta Imlie ko support karne ke liye.....let me also obsess over Didi ka loverboy instead😕


Mithi ka scene I guess doesn't sound that surprising given woh bhi toh Malini ka ghar basaane ka gyaan de rahi thi Adi ko in Lauki scene😆.....so she's also all ok with her gudiya playing naukraani until Didi ka ghar bas jaaye I guess.....lol

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


Lol toh wohi main bhi bol rahi hoon ki “elder” toh Adi bhi hai. Uske pair bhi pado phir pura din by this “logic”.....why is Didi the only “elder” jinko respect dene ke liye naak ragadni hai unke pairon mein?

They don’t just make Imlie touch people’s feet out of respect, they show her groveling at people’s feet by literally rubbing her nose on the ground beneath them. That will never look “respectful” by any measure.


And as others here have pointed out, kis baat ka tamasha hai yeh sab abhi bhi when she now knows the truth? Imlie is still acting like she’s the husband snatcher. lol before and after mein koi farak nahin toh why bother with the truth? It’s not about respect, it’s not about sisterly love, it’s a pure slave mentality that Imlie has when it comes to Malini. She has fully accepted herself as Malini se inferior and beholden to her all her life. Even if it’s repeated a 100 times that she didn’t choose to take Adi from Malini, Imlie will still keep acting like she is Malini’s culprit 🤷‍♀️.....and Malini also only does token pushbacks about Imlie being the true bahu now. Lol baaki toh shakal pe resentment dikh hi jaati hai. Yeh achha hai ki saari bhadaas is justified from Didi ki side but Imlie doesn’t deserve any happiness without feeling beholden to Didi 🤷‍♀️.




The million dollar question is "Why".. Please can makers enlighten this fact... is it for that token support of bringing the admission form or "khoon diya" .......I means more than Malini, Aditya has given her support.and is supporting her even now........ yes, initially nahi but later its only Aditya who is all "Imlie first", baki sab gaye tel lene..... Imlie is like "Malini first, Aditya last"😆..Not sure why though?😛



@bold 2: Malini is back at T's? with what haq?? what happened to divorce?? What is her reason to not tell the truth to the family? Isn't she the one who has been wronged according to everybody? Again, where is the anger at Aditya , kismat, destiny, Imlie?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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The million dollar question is "Why".. Please can makers enlighten this face... is it for that token support of bringing the form or "khoon diya" .......I means more than Malini, Aditya has given her support.and is supporting ... yes, initially nahi but later its only Aditya who is all "Imlie first", baki sab gaye tel lene..... Imlie is like "Malini first, Aditya last"😆



@bold 2: Malini is back at T's? with what haq?? what happened to divorce?? What is her reason to not tell the truth to the family? Isn't she the one who has been wronged according to everybody? Again, where is the anger at Aditya , kismat, destiny, Imlie?


LOL no, Malini just came to visit the Ts to "apologize" for her mom talking rudely to them or something in some scene....ab mujhe yaad nahin😆.....she's still trying to play goody goody with the Ts even though she doesn't give a damn about them really😆


Divorce is still on....I guess they will be meeting the lawyer soon.


Reason to not tell the family is whatever contrivance floats your boat😆.....Didi claiming she needs Adi to tell the truth and then she will be able to move on in her life😆....Adi stating that Imlie has stopped him from telling the truth to the family until Didi proves KC is real and she's happy with him😆.....toh isi contrivance mein ghoomte raho.


Anger at Aditya? Hahaha bhool jaao.....she's just playing her usual bechaari mode for now ....baaki flip maarti rahegi time to time. Imlie pe anger nahin, guilt trips hi apply kar rahi hai....her usual MO.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli


Matt dekho save yourself the horror yeh lo agar bekaar sa adi imlie scene dekhna hi hai.. which really is equal to dekhna na dekhna ..





Was the "kahani" taunt for us... like we are saying story is not moving forward and the makers are sayin "kahani baad rahi hain, aapko nahi dikh raha to hum kya kare"😆😛

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