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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: PutijaChalhov

Good analysis Manasi

after watching the episode and precap this is what I felt

This didiji does not want Mukhi to touch her but she was all over him pulling him pushing him holding his shirt etcsmiley37 crying all over him and always me and my hurt not what he was feeling he was feeling or Purvi went through n doubt all were victims of circumstances but and both of them are thinking about her but not she.

In precap the children were worried about Purvi their hathi and did not want her to leave but their real mom was hardly bothered about their hurt or emotions

In fact after she came back Saki never got close to the kids or tried to be friendly with them her only aim seemed to be to seduce her husband

somehow I cant sympathise with Saki as the way she dealt with the truth did not appeal to me


Thanks for the comment Putija❤️

@bold- I also found that very odd that since coming back, Sakshi has not shown to pay more attention to the kids/


I don't normalize sympathise with her...however yesterday's episode I did feel bad for her

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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: nycgal

So, here I am with my 2$ and 2 cents on Friday's episode..
I know we have discussed this topic to death so appreciate your patience my friends.


I will break this down to 4 parts to make it easier to talk about.


Part1 : In Purvi's room


Completely understand KK's shock . Expected reaction from her.

I actually cheered for her when she announced she is just Sakshi and no more SVPS. Great!! You do not need a man to make you complete.👍🏼

She was very right to say that she was betrayed because of not being told the truth. It is insulting too to be not told of this truth. I know, doc ne bola tha to not give her any sadma.


BUT to imply that she was betrayed by his shaadi after her demise is not true. How and Why is that betrayal?


One thing to point out in this scene -even though KK had the lines, Purvir's body language conveyed a lot. It is easy to overlook people with no dialogues but here Purvir were amazing as usual. Their body language showed pain, grief , some shock that KK found out the truth this way BUT at no point of time did their body language convey shame at being found together. They are man and wife and they have accepted it. They did not jump apart or flinch when they saw KK. I think that was pretty important to convey the sanctity of Purvir relationship.


Part2 : Purvi's erstwhile bedroom


I quite liked the flinching and the following scene. where KK asks not to be touched. I also understand her desolation, desperation, fear when she asked VPS what would she do. All natural reactions for someone in her place.


The googly and disconnect for me started when she started yapping about the talks of 5 years pehle and the promises he made to her.


VPS yeh bhi promise kiya tha kya he would also be like living dead if she happens to die? I am just surprised at her utter selfishness here. What did she expect ?? VPS would make a shrine in her name so that he and the kids could pray to her everyday?? Not only that , they should have wallowed in grief, pity, depression just because she was dead???


I noticed her resentment that they moved ahead with their lives when she was held captive and kept thinking about them everyday. It was moot to her that there was no way for them to even entertain the possibility that she was alive and kept prisoner. How can she hold it against them?Just because she had a very tough 5 years, she wants them to experience similar pain by drowning in grief and not moving forward in life? Whatever happened with her was very wrong and unfortunate but why should the husband and kids get punished as compensation for her time in the khandar?


As a wife/mother should she not be happy that her family found peace and happiness even after her death? She needs to wrap her brains around the fact that irrespective of Purvi's presence/absence people do adapt and move ahead in life. Her expectation that EVERYTHING would be frozen in time for her to come back and pick up from square 1 is just so bizzare that I cannot relate to it. Change is the only constant in life and her family was right and justified in moving ahead.

KK had no idea she would ever escape the khandar. Luck,fate or whatever intervened and she escaped. I am surprised she learnt no life lessions during her captive days. Life is short and live it to the fullest? Uske baad bhi she is all rona dhona ki yeh log khush hain without her?? How is moving on in life after a partner's or parent's death a vishwaasghat??


I am very curious to know how VPS used to jhelo her. I had such high expectation from her as a human being going by the tareefon ke pul that VPS used to tie for her. Well, madam has been such a huge let down. She definitely has traits of being a narcissist apart from being privileged and entitled.

She has always been "humse zyaada aapke liye kaun important hai" " I am most important for you". I just do not think she developed these traits overnight.


I won't talk too much about KK's dialogues of Purvir sleeping together.( we ALL have the same opinion on this)

By implying he gave in to $exual gratification, she just dissed and insulted him so badly. She knows what kind of a person VPS is and that was just hitting below the belt. VPS's face also registered the shock at her implication. He did not flinch or hang his head in shame because he knows the truth between Purvi and him.


One thing will never cross KK's dimag - that things just did not fall on Purvi's lap. I really do not expect her to understand or acknowledge the struggles of Purvi. I mean why would she?

When she spoke about how VPS and her kids like Purvi, she does not know that Purvi EARNED that place. She just assumed Purvi had it very easy.

KK was loved by VPS just because she was his wife. The young J+M loved KK because she was their mother. So, this love was default hers. KK did not have to earn anything.

But Purvi ko kuch default nahin mila - na bacchon ka pyaar na hi pati ka pyaar aur izzat.


Her dialogue about izzatdaar aurat? Was it meant to imply Molkkis are not izzatdaar?


I do get KK is right in many ways. Some of her questions were valid. But others were meh.


VPS letting her vent out was good. He definitely should have told the complete truth about how his present feelings for Purvi.

WHat I did not agree upon ( like so many of you) - It is not KK's job/responsibility to be kind and just towards Purvi. Kyun hogi woh??

The only person who is reponsible to ensure Purvi's dignity is upheld is VPS himself. The SOoner he gets that, faster he will take actions.


Part3 : VPS's bechaini


Amar nailed it and then some. Enough said.

Also, VPS needs to understand he can't keep both women happy. He is the sole sutradhaar of how things will end up between the 3 of them. Tough choices but they have to be made.

He has to choose 1 path and put a fullstop to the drama.


Part4 : Purvi visiting KK


I understand Purvi coming and apologizing for the truth being hidden. She should have just left after that.

WHY did she have to talk about her Ram kahani and how she was betrayed by her own dad?? Again, she does not OWE KK an explanation. KK bhi kyun sune iski safaiyaan?? Again, life lesson - you just can not expect everyone to sympathize with you. Why would they ?

VPS ke samne izzat and samman samman chilati rehti hai. KK ke samne khud chali gayee apni insult karwane.

I do not support the irrational dhokka line from KK but sorry bolke Purvi ko cut lena chahiye tha.



P.S. - I have never watched Toral in a show before. She was good today but she did not hit it out of the ball park for me. As many have said, we have such powerhouse performers in Amar and Priyal that anyone else in the frame needs to have amazing acting chops.


First of all lovely review Shree❤ and thks for tag dear🤗


Well i saw the repeat telecast last nite just to be sure abt certain PurVir and didi reaction in some scenes😳


1. Vir was flabbergasted when didi ordered him to leave ...his shocked expression revealed it all ...he was at least expecting her to understd in wht circumtances his unwanted wedding with Pur took place and but She was less bothered that Viru was neglecting the kids and living in his own shattered world.


Vir was hell shocked as if he is discovering another didi here whom he has never encountered.


As you said didi selfish level is amazing here ...all She can see is that Viru and kids have moved on and this isn't going down well with her ...she so wanted them to keep crying and grieving for years and this is above my understanding 😳


2. When Pur was revealing her side of story ...how Viru made it clear from day 1 that She ll never be his wife ...didi expression were alert there as if her mind is working how to get rid of Pur now as She still has a chance to win back Viru and the kids ...didi knows there is definitely attachment between PurVir now and Pur revealing that Viru has never accepted as his wife is s golden chance to work on.


Also when didi accused her taking revenge on her ...Pur was hell shocked same as Vir here...she was also expecting her understd but in vain.


In precap didi accused Pur to fall in love with Viru is another mind game of hers to make her feel guilty just like She did with Viru regarding bed sharing stuff🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️....i think didi ll definitely trigger Pur to leave because Pur was determined to win back her family whom She has won after going through so much hardship and bearing so many unncessary wraths of Viru...Pur isn't a person who accept defeat so easily but didi has certainly mentionned such thgs which forced her to leave else She ll hv never leave her family behind.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: nycgal

So, here I am with my 2$ and 2 cents on Friday's episode..
I know we have discussed this topic to death so appreciate your patience my friends.


I will break this down to 4 parts to make it easier to talk about.


Part1 : In Purvi's room


Completely understand KK's shock . Expected reaction from her.

I actually cheered for her when she announced she is just Sakshi and no more SVPS. Great!! You do not need a man to make you complete.👍🏼

She was very right to say that she was betrayed because of not being told the truth. It is insulting too to be not told of this truth. I know, doc ne bola tha to not give her any sadma.


BUT to imply that she was betrayed by his shaadi after her demise is not true. How and Why is that betrayal?


One thing to point out in this scene -even though KK had the lines, Purvir's body language conveyed a lot. It is easy to overlook people with no dialogues but here Purvir were amazing as usual. Their body language showed pain, grief , some shock that KK found out the truth this way BUT at no point of time did their body language convey shame at being found together. They are man and wife and they have accepted it. They did not jump apart or flinch when they saw KK. I think that was pretty important to convey the sanctity of Purvir relationship.


Part2 : Purvi's erstwhile bedroom


I quite liked the flinching and the following scene. where KK asks not to be touched. I also understand her desolation, desperation, fear when she asked VPS what would she do. All natural reactions for someone in her place.


The googly and disconnect for me started when she started yapping about the talks of 5 years pehle and the promises he made to her.


VPS yeh bhi promise kiya tha kya he would also be like living dead if she happens to die? I am just surprised at her utter selfishness here. What did she expect ?? VPS would make a shrine in her name so that he and the kids could pray to her everyday?? Not only that , they should have wallowed in grief, pity, depression just because she was dead???


I noticed her resentment that they moved ahead with their lives when she was held captive and kept thinking about them everyday. It was moot to her that there was no way for them to even entertain the possibility that she was alive and kept prisoner. How can she hold it against them?Just because she had a very tough 5 years, she wants them to experience similar pain by drowning in grief and not moving forward in life? Whatever happened with her was very wrong and unfortunate but why should the husband and kids get punished as compensation for her time in the khandar?


As a wife/mother should she not be happy that her family found peace and happiness even after her death? She needs to wrap her brains around the fact that irrespective of Purvi's presence/absence people do adapt and move ahead in life. Her expectation that EVERYTHING would be frozen in time for her to come back and pick up from square 1 is just so bizzare that I cannot relate to it. Change is the only constant in life and her family was right and justified in moving ahead.

KK had no idea she would ever escape the khandar. Luck,fate or whatever intervened and she escaped. I am surprised she learnt no life lessions during her captive days. Life is short and live it to the fullest? Uske baad bhi she is all rona dhona ki yeh log khush hain without her?? How is moving on in life after a partner's or parent's death a vishwaasghat??


I am very curious to know how VPS used to jhelo her. I had such high expectation from her as a human being going by the tareefon ke pul that VPS used to tie for her. Well, madam has been such a huge let down. She definitely has traits of being a narcissist apart from being privileged and entitled.

She has always been "humse zyaada aapke liye kaun important hai" " I am most important for you". I just do not think she developed these traits overnight.


I won't talk too much about KK's dialogues of Purvir sleeping together.( we ALL have the same opinion on this)

By implying he gave in to $exual gratification, she just dissed and insulted him so badly. She knows what kind of a person VPS is and that was just hitting below the belt. VPS's face also registered the shock at her implication. He did not flinch or hang his head in shame because he knows the truth between Purvi and him.


One thing will never cross KK's dimag - that things just did not fall on Purvi's lap. I really do not expect her to understand or acknowledge the struggles of Purvi. I mean why would she?

When she spoke about how VPS and her kids like Purvi, she does not know that Purvi EARNED that place. She just assumed Purvi had it very easy.

KK was loved by VPS just because she was his wife. The young J+M loved KK because she was their mother. So, this love was default hers. KK did not have to earn anything.

But Purvi ko kuch default nahin mila - na bacchon ka pyaar na hi pati ka pyaar aur izzat.


Her dialogue about izzatdaar aurat? Was it meant to imply Molkkis are not izzatdaar?


I do get KK is right in many ways. Some of her questions were valid. But others were meh.


VPS letting her vent out was good. He definitely should have told the complete truth about how his present feelings for Purvi.

WHat I did not agree upon ( like so many of you) - It is not KK's job/responsibility to be kind and just towards Purvi. Kyun hogi woh??

The only person who is reponsible to ensure Purvi's dignity is upheld is VPS himself. The SOoner he gets that, faster he will take actions.


Part3 : VPS's bechaini


Amar nailed it and then some. Enough said.

Also, VPS needs to understand he can't keep both women happy. He is the sole sutradhaar of how things will end up between the 3 of them. Tough choices but they have to be made.

He has to choose 1 path and put a fullstop to the drama.


Part4 : Purvi visiting KK


I understand Purvi coming and apologizing for the truth being hidden. She should have just left after that.

WHY did she have to talk about her Ram kahani and how she was betrayed by her own dad?? Again, she does not OWE KK an explanation. KK bhi kyun sune iski safaiyaan?? Again, life lesson - you just can not expect everyone to sympathize with you. Why would they ?

VPS ke samne izzat and samman samman chilati rehti hai. KK ke samne khud chali gayee apni insult karwane.

I do not support the irrational dhokka line from KK but sorry bolke Purvi ko cut lena chahiye tha.



P.S. - I have never watched Toral in a show before. She was good today but she did not hit it out of the ball park for me. As many have said, we have such powerhouse performers in Amar and Priyal that anyone else in the frame needs to have amazing acting chops.


Wow Shree! This is some analysis👍🏼 You know I always look forward to your views!


Part 1

Superb observation about PurVir👏 This is a very imp point - that at no stage did PurVir try to decry their relationship!


Part 2

It is not that she really expected Vir to wait for her for 5 years, but try to imagine her devastation that she is finally with her family only to find that she has been replaced...that no one needs her now.

All her reactions & accusations to Vir came from a place of hurt & betrayal. Yes they were below the belt but I don't think deliberate. She just wanted Vir to feel the same hurt that she herself was feeling. Don't we also lash out in anger sometimes? At least I do! It is too early to expect rationality from her - the wound is too raw.

And hadn't all of us seen Vir react very similarly at Purvi's bday party when he saw Karan's video? He also called Purvi as a molkki, a bazaaru aurat and what not! Toh yahan I feel, we have to give Sakshi the benefit of doubt as she had been in captivity & been tortured for 5 years - her world view has not yet adjusted to the current time.

But yes - she is not aware of Purvi's struggle to gain acceptance from Vir & the kids. And neither will she unless someone enlightens her. I wish Mama Sarkar had been here to tell her the condition in which Vir & kids were surviving before Purvi came and nurtured them back to life with her love. Purvi has earned every iota of love & acceptance that Vir & kid shower on her now, she has been thru hell and back to receive it, and no one can deny her it now.

Part 3

Amar ke baare mein kya bolu yaar...words fail me! He delivers so perfectly everytime!

As a character, this is Vir's trial by fire now. His decision, his actions/inactions will decide the fate of all 3 of them. It is a wonderful time to showcase the depth in him, I just hope Saba doesn't mess it up.

Part 4

I felt this was completely unnecessary. Purvi does not even owe an apology to Sakshi. That decision was Vir's to take, about what to disclose to Sakshi & what to hide.


For me Friday's episode belonged to Sakshi - in terms of the storyline. It was about her feelings, her emotions, the 'betrayal' she faced. So most of my reactions are from her POV. Yes she did make accusations which were unfounded and even unnecessary, but I took them more as a defence mechanism to the heartbreak she was experiencing.

If Saba was planning to keep Sakshi positive, this would have just been an outburst in anger and she would have been shown to be calmer & more rational, even apologetic the next day. But since Sakshi is most likely to be negative, or heavily leaning towards grey, I am not expecting any such thing in the future now.


On the acting front - I think most of us were very surprised with Toral's performance yesterday coz she has never shown much potential earlier. But the impact Priyal had in 2 minutes overpowered 15+ minutes of Toral - and I am not even including Amar here. Toral has a longggggg way to go!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

I think the main problem here is the lack of depth & thought behind Sakshi character sketch. The Sakshi in Vir's memories and the Sakshi they have brought back from the dead are two very different people.


Probably, when the show started, they did not plan to have Sakshi alive and so it was necessary for to be wriiten as a larger than life character esp since Vir was not shown to be over her death. But when suddenly she was made to be alive, they could not fit in that characterization with the requirement of the current track.

Hence this dissonance and the ensuing mess!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manasi_16

I think the main problem here is the lack of depth & thought behind Sakshi character sketch. The Sakshi in Vir's memories and the Sakshi they have brought back from the dead are two very different people.


Probably, when the show started, they did not plan to have Sakshi alive and so it was necessary for to be wriiten as a larger than life character esp since Vir was not shown to be over her death. But when suddenly she was made to be alive, they could not fit in that characterization with the requirement of the current track.

Hence this dissonance and the ensuing mess!


What I feel is sakshi which viru described was there but 5 yrs back but the sakshi now would have changed bcoz of circumstances...saki waisi hi hogi 5 saal pehle par jab paristhiti badli to wo bhi badal gayi...people won't remain the same na...


As shree said When saki and viru were married I don't think she would have struggled like purvi to get the love of her family she got it bcoz sh was married to him... everything just came to her by default but now she got to kno that it's not the same family she left 5 yrs back to wo baukhla gayi hai ki kaise sab uske haath se nikal gaya... isiliye we feel a lot of change here...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Srilata.Mineil


What I feel is sakshi which viru described was there but 5 yrs back but the sakshi now would have changed bcoz of circumstances...saki waisi hi hogi 5 saal pehle par jab paristhiti badli to wo bhi badal gayi...people won't remain the same na...


As shree said When saki and viru were married I don't think she would have struggled like purvi to get the love of her family she got it bcoz sh was married to him... everything just came to her by default but now she got to kno that it's not the same family she left 5 yrs back to wo baukhla gayi hai ki kaise sab uske haath se nikal gaya... isiliye we feel a lot of change here...


Yes that is also true. Esp the kind of circumstances she has faced would change anyone.

But somehow her innate personality seems in conflict to the one Vir had painted

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Posted: 4 years ago
#57

Well for me Manasi didi was there since the beginning as the emphasis on didi room was highly done and Bhuri sneaking out was there since the beginning during Sudha scene if am not mistaken🤔.


But i ll say may be it was planned for an imposter but later on Saba changed it and decided to bring the real one and the choice of actor... no offence to the actor🙏🙏 and the characterisation isn't going well together unfortunately.


Also the fact that didi constantly saying "hum se zyada important kya hai apke liye" somthg like that is quite irritating as She put herself ahead everyone even the kids

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manasi_16


Yes that is also true. Esp the kind of circumstances she has faced would change anyone.

But somehow her innate personality seems in conflict to the one Vir had painted


Wahi to bol rahi hoon ki saki viru ke saath wasi hogi par kya pata uska character waisa na ho...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manasi_16

I think the main problem here is the lack of depth & thought behind Sakshi character sketch. The Sakshi in Vir's memories and the Sakshi they have brought back from the dead are two very different people.


Probably, when the show started, they did not plan to have Sakshi alive and so it was necessary for to be wriiten as a larger than life character esp since Vir was not shown to be over her death. But when suddenly she was made to be alive, they could not fit in that characterization with the requirement of the current track.

Hence this dissonance and the ensuing mess!

That could be also a case but then again what they were building from episode 6 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

All the haunted sequence especially that alta wala from painting track

Kash ye log bhoot wala track hi rakhte hai

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Posted: 4 years ago
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We should wait for sometime to get more clear picture of saki character bcoz the back story of her kidnap will play the major role on how she used to be actually and why is she so different than viru description...

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