Revenge and Ravage: What happens next? - Page 30

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold red- ye marriage ko Pallavi ke liye "kaato ki bediya" banane wala hai ya phoolo ka bagicha ? 😆 Doesnt sound like a plan that would make Pallavi suffer. He is expected to do that and Im sure he will do, once he softens upto her, starts liking her, maybe after he comes to know about blood donation thing.But till that happens, Im not sure how he can make her suffer other than forcing her to do things against her will... But still, it cant be as bad as what Pallavi can do to make him suffer.. Pallavi, being the wife, has definitely more options. 😆

It will make her suffer because she clearly has stated once or twice in the episodes that she does not approve of the source of his funding, which means she would wanna keep it away from DSE tbh. He will make it an ehsaan towards her and her family, that he is supporting them like a son (the previous promo: koi aayega jo uske ghar ko apna banayega) and then get Rambo and the Deshmukhs (barring the ones he likes such as Sharda) to purposely dance on his tunes or something which will obviously make it worse for her coz they will blame HER for everything that happens to them. He might not do it with the intent to help them, but to make her estranged from family, thereby getting her out of her cage that bound her to Deshmukhs.

Originally posted by: inlieu

You made an interesting point. They never show us his monologues, unlike with Pallavi... Is that to maintain that mysterious aura of his?

Who knows? What mystery re? Raghav is an open book. Kaahe ka mystery. Jab sach samne aayega uske life ka, kuch phuss hi hoga.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Usko drink karne se fursat mile tabhi to analyze karega na?

Sahi me. Isiliye to bharosa kam hai ispe.😆

Bola to bade attitude mein , " ye shadi nahi kaato ki bediya hai tere liye Pallavi Deshmukh " modus operandi kya hai Anna ye to batao? Tumko ghas bhi nahi dalne wali, chhoona to bhul jao😆 khair wo to pehle hi bol chuke ho " duniya me akhri ladki huwa to bhi nahi chhuyega tumko" to karne kya wale ho? 🤣 mujhe to Anna ka game uspe bohot zor ka bhari padte dikh raha hai. Din raat bechare Farhad, Gorilla aur Rama pe chillane ke alawa kuch karne ko nahi rahega. Wo log bhi sochenge, shadi ki Anna ne, life apni narak ho gyi.. batao🤣

Originally posted by: nautankitadka

It will make her suffer because in the promo she clearly stated that she does not approve of the source of his funding and she would wanna keep it away from DSE tbh. He will make it an ehsaan towards her and her family, that he is supporting them like a son (the previous promo: koi aayega jo uske ghar ko apna banayega) and then get Rambo and the Deshmukhs (barring the ones he likes such as Sharda) to purposely dance on his tunes or something which will obviously make it worse for her coz they will blame HER for everything that happens to them. He might not do it with the intent to help them, but to make her estranged from family, thereby getting her out of her cage that bound her to Deshmukhs.

@bold - when does she say that in the promo? I thought she just said that his money is what makes him so arrogant and she is gonna break that arrogance..something like that.. yes she says hers is mehnat ki kamai versus his illegal kamai.. in some epi but its weird because she only knows about Jayathi jewellers not the diamond illegal business on the side right? Anyway.. yes that could be a way to irritate her but it still wouldnt make her suffer unless he has some plan to turn every family member of hers against her.. barring Rambo coz he is already pissed at her. Lol Thing is this ITV daily soap and most of all want our "heroes" to act in a certain way.. be bad if the character so demands but be bad in limits.. coz ultimately they will fall in love so we dont want a situation where redemption becomes impossible.. so yes in that sense, Raghav has very limited ways of torturing her the way he says he will in the promo..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

So I have a question. How exactly is Raghav planning to make this marriage " kaato ki bediyan" for Pallavi as he says in the promo? I can understand how Pallavi can make him suffer. Her indifference will be enough to rile him up. What about Raghav? How can he make her suffer? She obviously would want nothing to do with him, physically or emotionally so indifference from Raghav's side is not gonna affect her. One thing I can think of is making her family suffer because her family is her weakness.. He can takeover their business, their house n all, but something tells me he wont do that.. So what exactly is he gonna do? Get random girls at home like before and make her jealous? Drink and verbally abuse n insult her ?? What can he possibly do?

Mujhko na dono hi baaton ke babaseer lagte hai frankly😆. Kaaton ki bediya, I feel he spoke in a sense of the marriage and not what he will do to torture her. Like Pallavi used the "suhaagan" term. The promo to me meant that Raghav will force Pallavi to be his suhaagan, and torture her in this marriage because as a husband he has a right over her to make her life a misery. But Pallavi counters it by saying, ki torture ka koi bhi asar tab hoga, jab woh usko pati maanegi, kyunki shaadi ke bawajood, woh rahegi Mandaar ki vidhwa. Raghav speaks of power as the husband which would entitle him to make her suffer for whatever reason he feels, but Pallavi just systematically breaks down his notion of power by stripping him away of his rights as a husband which gives power over her. Raghav will want to impose his will as a husband by torturing her as a husband troubles a wife. But Pallavi ke hisaab se, jab pati hi nahi, to kya power aur kya torture.

Raghav ki to solid lagne wali hai. No amount of torture, ego clash and angry looks will suffice to make Pallavi accept him as the husband.😆And this will eat into him. And that will slowly take the shape of want, desire, liking and love.

Originally posted by: libran90

Pallavi's words probably are the main source of trouble, but she definitely doesn't deserve what she is being put through. Anyway, that mad caper of a family and we have an additional Raghav to pile on to cause problems for Pallavi. I don't know about others, but from my POV, Raghav deserves the hate, because his actions are worth the despise. And the problem is it does not affect him. Infact, the kind of effect Pallavi has when she sees or knows something about Raghav, registers with her deeply. But Raghav ko register hote huye kabhi nahi dekha strangely. Iss rate se to ye lagta hai, ki Pallavi hi na pyaar me gir jaaye pehle. Lekin I don't think iss baar hoga.

Objectively, when I view them, Raghav is helpful, but he has boundaries. Pallavi has no boundaries that way. She is more expressive about what she feels about anything. It has always been Pallavi compelling a reaction or action out of Raghav. Raghav actively has never done anything. Pallavi unconsciously has taken steps towards Raghav and Raghav has reacted to the same. Be it challenge, or playful, or helpful, or savior or whatever. It was always Pallavi. And from what I have seen - we have seen Pallavi discovering Raghav's love for dance, his love for his family, his reasons behind Jayati Jewelers, his rules about drugs. And side by side misunderstood him, and will still do.

Raghav on the other hand has never done anything actively to know anything about Pallavi. And she has been an open book with her feelings. But after this marriage, Raghav would stay the same, but Pallavi would build an invisible wall and boundaries between herself and Raghav. And hate will be a curtain, beyond which Pallavi will not allow Raghav to peek in. I think it's time Raghav begins to discover Pallavi.

I will put the onus of some of this on the writing, which in my honest view has not accorded Pallavi the stature it should as a young widow living in society and not given us more depth on her story before she married Mandar and came to Hyderabad with the Deshmukhs. I would have personally loved to see any of them mention about her past apart from the Mandar and how his death affected them as a family, where she was forced by circumstances (Vijay Deshmukh's heart attack) to take up responsibility to hold the house together. Forget Raghav, all the Deshmukh scenes she has had so far only talk about how Aai-Baba lost their son and she lost her husband, not about how she loved to dance but had to probably give it up, how she survived without her parents, her struggles, maybe some of the benefits she had as Pallavi Sawant (maybe they were well-off, hence she has never had any interest about business or they were barely earning so she had no resources to educate herself properly which is why she was excited when Mandar wanted to support her to study further and broaden her mind). Even about her relationship with Mandar, we only know that they spoke on phone and emails and she has never really interacted with him decently as a person to get to understand him.

As for Raghav, he does notice certain things about Pallavi too, just that he does not want to know any of it till this point, coz like he has reiterated time and again, he does not see her as anything more than the Saree ka Dukaan. But at the end of the day, he does have enough sense to bail her out when he feels she has been wrongly accused or the courtesy to offer to drop her home and get her back incase she gets wrongly caught up beyond the first few instances of him disrespecting her, which me or Keerti or even his Amma will condemn. They seem to be setting the stage for Pallavi to fall for Raghav, which is why the multidimensionality of his personality is being shown before hers. It is only when he realises that she is an orphan and a widow, and maybe if something comes to fore about her not knowing Anjali or donating blood to his mother, which is of personal interest to him will he be interested in digging deep on that aspect. He does not want to actively know anything about her beyond what is needed for the challenge, that is how he basically is. Again, this is something that I would want the CVs to explore and do justice to it when the times comes for HER part to be explored. Again, yes, I do want him to now discover her too, which will most probably happen post this marriage.

If you do feel like any of the above does not make sense, let us agree to disagree.

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@bold - when does she say that in the promo? I thought she just said that his money is what makes him so arrogant and she is gonna break that arrogance..something like that.. yes she says hers is mehnat ki kamai versus his illegal kamai.. in some epi but its weird because she only knows about Jayathi jewellers not the diamond illegal business on the side right? Anyway.. yes that could be a way to irritate her but it still wouldnt make her suffer unless he has some plan to turn every family member of hers against her.. barring Rambo coz he is already pissed at her. Lol Thing is this ITV daily soap and most of all want our "heroes" to act in a certain way.. be bad if the character so demands but be bad in limits.. coz ultimately they will fall in love so we dont want a situation where redemption becomes impossible.. so yes in that sense, Raghav has very limited ways of torturing her the way he says he will in the promo..

I noted it from two or three episodes, including their first few encounters; she did make some statements about his income being illegal or something, not from the promo, apologies on that misdirection. She might assume that way coz he does have a reputation as a don in Hyderabad right? So it is obvious he might be into illegal stuff too, she asked him openly during the Lion track too, but they tried to cover it up in dialogue later as avoidance of tax. Idk, sometimes I think the writers are confused about which line Raghav Rao is walking on in terms of his black business. He might very well play with the Deshmukh family and make them hate her, estranging her family is the worst revenge, coz she does love them like her own. Even the Amruta case was only because she does think of her as HER OWN sister in some sense. Lets see what they explore. I am out of any other ideas with respect to this now 😆

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Bola to bade attitude mein , " ye shadi nahi kaato ki bediya hai tere liye Pallavi Deshmukh " modus operandi kya hai Anna ye to batao? Tumko ghas bhi nahi dalne wali, chhoona to bhul jao😆 khair wo to pehle hi bol chuke ho " duniya me akhri ladki huwa to bhi nahi chhuyega tumko" to karne kya wale ho? 🤣 mujhe to Anna ka game uspe bohot zor ka bhari padte dikh raha hai. Din raat bechare Farhad, Gorilla aur Rama pe chillane ke alawa kuch karne ko nahi rahega. Wo log bhi sochenge, shadi ki Anna ne, life apni narak ho gyi.. batao🤣

Farhad, Harish, Reddy, Krishna, Keerti, all are going to suffer in actual terms post this marriage due to the constant chik chik of RaghVi 🤣

Originally posted by: nautankitadka

I will put the onus of some of this on the writing, which in my honest view has not accorded Pallavi the stature it should as a young widow living in society and not given us more depth on her story before she married Mandar and came to Hyderabad with the Deshmukhs. I would have personally loved to see any of them mention about her past apart from the Mandar and how his death affected them as a family, where she was forced by circumstances (Vijay Deshmukh's heart attack) to take up responsibility to hold the house together. Forget Raghav, all the Deshmukh scenes she has had so far only talk about how Aai-Baba lost their son and she lost her husband, not about how she loved to dance but had to probably give it up, how she survived without her parents, her struggles, maybe some of the benefits she had as Pallavi Sawant (maybe they were well-off, hence she has never had any interest about business or they were barely earning so she had no resources to educate herself properly which is why she was excited when Mandar wanted to support her to study further and broaden her mind). Even about her relationship with Mandar, we only know that they spoke on phone and emails and she has never really interacted with him decently as a person to get to understand him.

As for Raghav, he does notice certain things about Pallavi too, just that he does not want to know any of it till this point, coz like he has reiterated time and again, he does not see her as anything more than the Saree ka Dukaan. But at the end of the day, he does have enough sense to bail her out when he feels she has been wrongly accused or the courtesy to offer to drop her home and get her back incase she gets wrongly caught up beyond the first few instances of him disrespecting her, which me or Keerti or even his Amma will condemn. They seem to be setting the stage for Pallavi to fall for Raghav, which is why the multidimensionality of his personality is being shown before hers. It is only when he realises that she is an orphan and a widow, and maybe if something comes to fore about her not knowing Anjali or donating blood to his mother, which is of personal interest to him will he be interested in digging deep on that aspect. He does not want to actively know anything about her beyond what is needed for the challenge, that is how he basically is. Again, this is something that I would want the CVs to explore and do justice to it when the times comes for HER part to be explored. Again, yes, I do want him to now discover her too, which will most probably happen post this marriage.

If you do feel like any of the above does not make sense, let us agree to disagree.

I do agree with the fact that the execution of Pallavi's character arc has been very haphazard, cause her identity has been from the beginning that of a Deshmukh widow, nothing else. What she was and used to be hasn't been shown for us to know more about her. This is why, it's up to Raghav only to discover what she was, what her life was, what her dreams were, everything.

Now coming to the love angle, it could very much be that Pallavi falls in love first, cause as I said when it comes to feelings, she is very much expressive and she has a hold on what she feels and why she feels. So she may start feeling and falling first. But I think Raghav again might do something that Pallavi has to step back again and deprive herself of feeling anything for Raghav or express anything related to him.

The intensity of emotions will always be from Raghav's end, cause he suppresses most of it. So, when he understands what he feels, it will be overwhelming for Pallavi. When Pallavi is around him, he does not feel the need to figure out what he feels. But whenever there is an inkling that she is withdrawing or probably stepping away, he goes berserk, which happened when LION came into the picture. I guess this is why we need LION again, to give Raghav some clarity with his feelings which otherwise is within, but he does not realize.

I am still in two minds about who will fall first or both will together and unaware of the other.

Another execution and writing problem I feel is with what Raghav actually thinks or feels about Pallavi. We don't get many monologues, and we cannot gauge his feelings, unlike Pallavi. So I would really like to know someday. Don't want them to drop it some kind of truth bomb.