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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


Word on the bold...People keep saying imagine this and imagine that... Agar imagine hi karna to show kyun dekhte, imagine he karte rehange 😆


Exactly, blame the person but blame him for the crimes that he has committed. If Malini is not ready to face the truth or hear the truth, is it Aditya or Imlie ki kya galati? Isn't she and her fragileness the only reason why Aditya is hesitating to tell the truth. Warna yeh to ghodi pe tayaar hain sach bolne ke liye 😆


Show dekhenge to pata chalega bas aa jaate hain pravachan karne ki "Aditya should tell the truth"... jaise women ki to koi responsibility hi nahin hain relationship mein. Apparently, she is turning a blind eye to save a relationship, I guess that is the new way to do it. You are thinking that your man is cheating on you but you do nothing and just wait for him to come back... Aisi realtionship mein rehke bhi kya faayda where whole time you are only going to do shak and doubt but well I guess "Forgive and forget" is the new motto for saving relationship. 😆


@bold - responsibility hai. Bas Imlie ki that she stays away from a man she has been married to twice. Bas Malini bears none.

Wasn’t it just two days ago that we went off on Aditya for being silent while Imlie was being schooled in manners? Have we ever said everyone is faultless? Flawed characters ko leke story banayenge toh there will discussions on all characters and their capabilities.

All of us wanted Malini to be told the truth. At every point. We still do. But has she shown an inclination to know the truth? She definitely goes around saying it a lot. But every instance she has not pressed. That is how the story is and that is how her character is - she fears the truth that she is already aware of innately. Latest being, when she returns home after having said that she is staying back - why would you let Aditya sleep? You are troubled constantly by questions - you do not stop until you get answers. You do not offload them on another person by giving Aditya a free pass because he is her husband or whatever. You want to know the truth, you press for the truth until you hear it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Peanutbolt


Hi Anvi. Thank you for your post. I agree completely with your thoughts with respect to Malini.


with respect to Aditya, I am not questioning the validity of his feelings for imlie nor his realization of his hollow relationship with Malini. He has every right to feel whatever he wants to. My issue comes where it is always about his feelings. He doesn't think how his actions corresponding to the feelings he has are affecting people involved in the situation. Initially, it was Imlie now it is malini. Tomorrow he feels, he might be wrong in having feelings for imlie, then he will back to hurting people again. Maybe it could be his character flaw, but he has once done that mistake with Imlie, why can't he think of his actions now with Malini. I don't care what conversations he has with Imlie and how 'worried' he says he is about malini...his actions are completely different, the way he behaves with malini nowadays and around imlie in front of everyone, better he tells malini the truth. It is messing up her mental health anyway with the constant doubts and frustration.


If the answer to him being like this is pyaar mein aisa hota hai, pyaar is like this-then i can only think of how old is aditya to completely lack the ability to think and act objectively 😊


How much I love analyzing characters. 😊


Aditya's character flaw is that he is impulsive. He is far from perfect. And he is trying to sort the mess he created in the first place by marrying Malini. But just recently he realized that he never was in love with Malini. With Malini he is not hurting her intentionally like he did with Imlie to keep her at a distance. With Malini, he just does not know how to deal with the situation. That is why he is talking to Imlie, making her understand his POV, trying to get her support in dealing with Malini situation. But Imlie is in mahanta mode, not wanting to hurt Malini. Which is understandable as per her character too. That is why this is an ongoing issue. All I am seeing in the past weeks' episodes is that Aditya is thinking about Malini. Yes, his actions and silence are causing Malini pain. But then Malini needs to confront Aditya in their room (not her mother's house or living room) and get her answers too. But she is scared too to get answers. Aditya is scared to tell Malini the truth keeping in mind her mental health, but not knowing he is causing more harm by not speaking up. And Malinis is scared to face the truth causing herself more pain. That is why I am enjoying the current track. None of the characters are sorted or have answers to all problems. They are dealing with the situation the best way they can with all their flaws and all.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Pam ji good try but it is useless caz look kitne velle hain sab to keep typing essays for a show they claim to dislike .. and have issues with matlab amazing life goals and productivity people have ..to waste their precious time on something they hate to the core instead of spending it on something they like


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Madam vele hai isliye time dedicate karke essays likh rahe hai 😆 Agar busy honge tho koi bhaav dene keliye bhi nahi honge. Timepass karne ka time mila hai toh kar rahe hai log. atleast they are doing it on giving opinion on the 'show' rather than passing personal comments on members about how vele they are or not.


Aur aayi baat show ko dislike karne ki baat...not every show you watch, you need to like it till end..people grow different povs with every track it takes..akhir show hai isliye na and forums hai isliye...agar aur bhi bura lagne lagega tho ye show chodke doosra show..ab ismein thodi rule hai ki you should not comment if you don't like the show.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Why is aditya a poor man here? Sorry I don't sympathize with Aditya one bit, might be his first time falling in love but not his first time being human na, he is not so dumb to understand the circumstance. If imlie has this dizzy first time love wala headiness, understandable she is 18 (practically a kid in my pov), aditya is a grown man, not some bacha to not understand how his decisions could impact someone.


I am not saying he should entertain Malini, but he need not be so thoughtless, he can sit for a while and put some ghaas to his brain to think consequences of his next actions are going to be. He is acting like a teenager than a grown man. And like I mentioned, it's always about his damn feelings. Does drama about hurting others but doesn't put thought into his words. Actions speak 100 times more than words and currently, all his actions are making malini crazy. All he had to do is act like a mature person, and have a confrontation with malini. The writers could bring in this arc well. But they chose to make aditya this way.


ETA : Honestly I was just a silent reader, but what was honestly baffling was the constant villanizing of malini. The hullaboo about her asking imlie to knock the door and showing her true colors didn't go down well for me. It's the same in the Original post, malini is a doormat, so she deserves what's coming her way..that is honestly very sad.

[/QUOTE I will reserve my judgement for malini till the truth comes out right now she knows nothing she is not a dormant this is the same way adi was treating imili in initial stage and she was not a dormant then she asked adi if something is wrong but he is not saying anything adi and imili knows but malini what does she knows we can't fault her at this stage she is not a mind reader adi have to man up and do the three of them a favour by telling the truth and giving imili the respect she deserves as his wife and whatever relationship he had with malini before deserves the truth not lies I like the show because the characters are flawed but right now the way adi is treating malini is not cool I know he is frustrated but malini is not the reason of it I really want to continue watching the show because of the conflict of emotions but only cv knows what are they upto

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anvi2009


How much I love analyzing characters. 😊


Aditya's character flaw is that he is impulsive. He is far from perfect. And he is trying to sort the mess he created in the first place by marrying Malini. But just recently he realized that he never was in love with Malini. With Malini he is not hurting her intentionally like he did with Imlie to keep her at a distance. With Malini, he just does not know how to deal with the situation. That is why he is talking to Imlie, making her understand his POV, trying to get her support in dealing with Malini situation. But Imlie is in mahanta mode, not wanting to hurt Malini. Which is understandable as per her character too. That is why this is an ongoing issue. All I am seeing in the past weeks' episodes is that Aditya is thinking about Malini. Yes, his actions and silence are causing Malini pain. But then Malini needs to confront Aditya in their room (not her mother's house or living room) and get her answers too. But she is scared too to get answers. Aditya is scared to tell Malini the truth keeping in mind her mental health, but not knowing he is causing more harm by not speaking up. And Malinis is scared to face the truth causing herself more pain. That is why I am enjoying the current track. None of the characters are sorted or have answers to all problems. They are dealing with the situation the best way they can with all their flaws and all.


I am not faulting his character to be impulsive, but I have an issue with his thoughtlessness. He talks to imlie that he doesn't want to hurt malini, but he goes on behaves in such a way that it hurts malini in a way that is much worse than the actual truth. For eg today's his casual dismissal of mun's reaction of imlie's pic being taken by him. I couldn't believe the guy didn't feel responsible to explain. His thoughtless actions can be chalked up to him being impulsive but I find it honestly troubling.


Aditya's impulsiveness is what caused the entire mess, but he could be more introspective this time considering how he hurt imlie and how malini could get hurt. I don't fault imlie for not understanding but not aditya. I wish writers would have given him more growth to his impulsive character to more of thinking through what could happen, than him behaving the way he is doing right now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunnygrin

Newbie here on the forums - I find this show fascinating. Again and again it makes us turn a mirror on to ourselves and our implicit biases as individuals and as a society. It makes us question what we can or cannot accept. Psychologically- it’s an exquisite puzzle and love it or hate it - it is definitely not tepid and will provoke a reaction in you. Like they say about a popular piece of art- it’s about how it makes you feel.


As a newbie who finds some of the scenes breath taking and worthy of watching again and again- I must say it does hurt and jar me to read ugly comments and trolls on the leads ages, appearances etc . I can of course choose not the read them but often you can’t tell what a person is going to say until you read the post. So yes- I agree that it would be nice if people were sensitive to this. Sometimes to enjoy these romances you have to be in a particular bubble and after my last foray into the anti- Adilie camp- I wish I had not read the forums. But also sometimes you feel like sharing with like minds, so here I am again.


As I have written in another thread - none of the leads are at fault. They have been thrown into these circumstances. I feel for each of them. Even though Aditya’s logical mind might say his Pagdandiya marriage to Imlie May not be valid - at some level the rituals did matter to him perhaps not to the extent that Imlie believes but still... To quote the famous Ms. Khushi Kumari Gupta SR- baat sach ya jhoot ka nahin hain, baat vishwas ki hai.’ And in the end it’s faith in a marriage that gives it life.


And Aditya- Imlie’s is a unique bond . He has always been challenged and thrown out of his comfort zone with her. But he is a person who loves that- that is reflected in his career choice as well of being a reporter. And Imlie is incredibly special - even in her OTT antics (kudos to the actress for pulling off some of it in a manner that’s bearable to those of us who can’t take OTTs) . But on another level in Adilie’s relationship -to have someone take a bullet for you- that is something else.

And the honest thing is there is no logic or rules to love- as Imlie herself realizes quite early on- she and Aditya are perfectly mismatched and yet he falls for her in a way he never had for Malini. And for her - he is the brave reporter willing to put his life at stake to bring justice, the person who helps her Dadda walk freely, who has never ever considered her to be a ‘gawar’ as the villagers have come to expect from the ‘shehris’ and this above all makes her fall for him than merely the fact that he is her husband.


Now from her side - Malini is right in feeling puzzled at Aditya’s behavior and perhaps subconsciously she has realized that he doesn’t love her - waiting for someone for 7 years is awfully long - but chooses to ignore it just like Lavanya did with Arnav in IPKKND. Or perhaps compared to her parents marriage or even (speculating)that of her mother’s friends - Aditya’s amiability towards her is mistaken for love. And compared to the bitter battleground her parent’s marriage is- she sees the predictability in her marriage and how perfectly her choices meet Aditya’s - as secure and comforting. Sadly she hasn’t realized that parallel lines never meet.She should have left him ages ago and didnt. Being rejected is hard and she does have my sympathy- even if it turns her character ugly. It’s hard to be rejected - I am sure many of us have been there - some of us will sacrifice our ego and self respect for our notion of love . I am sure many married women (and men) in India and elsewhere do do that- so I think her reactions and the way she is changing is to be expected.


Of course the shows writers can’t let go of her yet- half the drama is gone if she does the logical thing. And she herself cannot let go without a fight.


I also find it so interesting to read in some of the comments how easily some people have accepted Imlie in a servants role- because of the way she looks speaks and her perceived poverty.As Prakash says to Imlie - his family thinks you are the servant and you can sense her shock because to her - she has always been the bahu and she is just play acting as the help. Imagine how painful that is from her point of view - in her village she was such a special person - poised to be the most highly educated girl from her village. As the story unfolds, It will be very interesting to see if Prakash is proven right and how exactly broad minded the Tripathis are.



This is such an interesting show with characters that are flawed but they are human.If you’re truly watching the show and not some random scenes it’s pretty apparent that Adi and Imlie feel guilty regarding the circumstances and are holding themselves back to prevent hurting Malini.They are holding back their happiness for Malini,Imlie went a step ahead and sacrificed her marriage and her rights just so Malini won’t get hurt.

Adi was wrong in holding back the truth but then again he tried to tell the truth before the marriage but Malini fainted🙄 because she can’t handle the truth? Adi at that time was shocked and upset about his forced marriage and decided to do something which he have control over and marry the girl he wanted to marry,was that the right choice?No, but he made that choice out of free will.This is where we see the flaw in his character,he is known as standing for the truth but at that time he chose to be selfish. One of the earlier PD scenes had Adi talking to the school kids regarding honesty and he stated that no matter what others see you as ,you know the truth and that guilt will hold you back and won’t let you look yourself in the eye knowing that you made a mistake (I don’t think I said it right but it was somewhere along this line)

As of now,Adi knows that he was wrong in marrying two women and he also knows that he loves Imlie but he doesn’t how to tell the truth to her because of the guilt.His character have a very human flaw that you may see in real life which makes his character relatable.Everyone makes mistakes but it’s how you handle is what makes all the difference.I’m not sure how the truth will come out and as a viewer I’m hoping that they will address it a manner that is relatable without destroying the essence of three characters.

For Imlie,I can’t understand why people are bashing her so much.Her only flaw is her selflessness which is holding her back and it’s coming from the right place but sometimes you have to tell the truth because holding back the truth won’t help anyone in the long run.But She is also a 19 year old girl who is trying to do the right thing but her lack of experience and nativity is probably going to create problems for her but then again who is always right?As we say in healthcare ,to err is human.

Do I feel bad for Malini?Yes but I can also see that Adi and Malini are not suited for each other even without Imlie.No relationship is perfect but there is no point in staying with someone for the sake of it but that’s the Indian mentality.it’s like If I’m going down the rabbit hole then you’re coming with me type of situation.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06

Thanks dear!! 🤗

Exactly, there are so many movies and books on this, plus this is a classic Cindrella concept that even now I can sit and watch. They do not want see the beauty of a relationship that developed over the course of time... I think it was you who said that Adi-Imlie relationship development is like "kichad se kamal kheela".....but people who have not watched the show come and preach to the choir based on a promo that they have seen. 😆


This movie is on Netflix and stars Thilottama Shome and Vivek Gombe. I just loved the movie, very real and no artifice. Here again the FL is not a maid as such but due to circumstances is forced into work, but she has her own dreams and aspirations, choti choti kushiyan.

Dunno if it was me, I may have made a reference to the lotus growing in swampy waters.. but true, look at their journey so far. It has been fabulous and layered, each time I revisit an episode, I find a new nuance to the words and scene overall.

As for the noise, I ignore them. 😆 Agree it does get annoying after a point.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Peanutbolt


I am not faulting his character to be impulsive, but I have an issue with his thoughtlessness. He talks to imlie that he doesn't want to hurt malini, but he goes on behaves in such a way that it hurts malini in a way that is much worse than the actual truth. For eg today's his casual dismissal of mun's reaction of imlie's pic being taken by him. I couldn't believe the guy didn't feel responsible to explain. His thoughtless actions can be chalked up to him being impulsive but I find it honestly troubling.


Aditya's impulsiveness is what caused the entire mess, but he could be more introspective this time considering how he hurt imlie and how malini could get hurt. I don't fault imlie for not understanding but not aditya. I wish writers would have given him more growth to his impulsive character to more of thinking through what could happen, than him behaving the way he is doing right now.


This is why he needs someone like Imlie as his life partner. To balance out his impulsiveness and give him a different perspective than his own when it comes to his actions and how it affects other people. This is what he did not have with Malini. She does not like confrontation and did not challenge him. But Imlie does just the opposite. She does not care if it is comfortable for him or not, if he messes up, she confronts him. I remember that scene where Aditya came to C house and confronted Anu and Malini about how Imlie was being treated. In the midst of his anger and fight with Anu and Malini, only Imlie was able to stop him and make him realize his mistake for shouting at Malini. She tried once to stop him, when he did not let her, she tried again and succeeded. Every time Aditya crosses a line, she never hesitates to confront him and make him see his mistake.


About Aditya's growth, did not Aditya himself say during relationship debate with Malini at the dining table that If you have the right life partner, they help you grow as they challenge your thinking by making you see the other side. So with Imlie by his side, I hope to see his growth too. And one thing is there, because of the honesty in their relationship, they can talk about anything and everything no matter how uncomfortable the topic is. Finally, he has someone he can share all his thoughts with. With that, he is bound to grow as a person if writers ki meherbaani hui toh. 😊

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Oh yeah - totally agree with the guilt etc. my post was already so long I couldn’t go into all that. Yes- the characters being so flawed is what makes it so interesting. In real life people lie and are cowards- to prevent those around the from being hurt and that’s exactly what got Aditya into all this trouble. He is so brave when it comes to his job but cannot subject those near and dear to him to any pain and it’s interesting that in those basic ways he and Imlie are alike. Often utter disregard for their own safety but so protective of those they love. And at every step they do try to do what’s right but get themselves more and more entangled.

And yes- it’s amazing that despite each of them looking and being good in their own way- you can feel how Aditya and Malini are not meant for each other. it’s the magic of the show that you Can feel the sparks around Aditya and Imlie

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This is such an interesting show with characters that are flawed but they are human.If you’re truly watching the show and not some random scenes it’s pretty apparent that Adi and Imlie feel guilty regarding the circumstances and are holding themselves back to prevent hurting Malini.They are holding back their happiness for Malini,Imlie went a step ahead and sacrificed her marriage and her rights just so Malini won’t get hurt.

Adi was wrong in holding back the truth but then again he tried to tell the truth before the marriage but Malini fainted🙄 because she can’t handle the truth? Adi at that time was shocked and upset about his forced marriage and decided to do something which he have control over and marry the girl he wanted to marry,was that the right choice?No, but he made that choice out of free will.This is where we see the flaw in his character,he is known as standing for the truth but at that time he chose to be selfish. One of the earlier PD scenes had Adi talking to the school kids regarding honesty and he stated that no matter what others see you as ,you know the truth and that guilt will hold you back and won’t let you look yourself in the eye knowing that you made a mistake (I don’t think I said it right but it was somewhere along this line)

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunnygrin

I also find it so interesting to read in some of the comments how easily some people have accepted Imlie in a servants role- because of the way she looks speaks and her perceived poverty.As Prakash says to Imlie - his family thinks you are the servant and you can sense her shock because to her - she has always been the bahu and she is just play acting as the help. Imagine how painful that is from her point of view - in her village she was such a special person - poised to be the most highly educated girl from her village. She has every right to every moment she spends with Adi. But yes I doubt every one thinks the same way and As the story unfolds, It will be very interesting to see if Prakash is proven right and how exactly broad minded the Tripathis are.


I enjoyed reading your analysis. 😊


Seeing Imlie from episode 1, how any viewer can see her in a servant's role is beyond me. Not that being a servant is bad, but her goal is to be a police officer. She played the role of a servant so she had a place to stay in Delhi and no one questions her place in the house if she is related to none. But she takes care of all the family members as a loving bahu would. Not as a duty because she is being paid but because she feels they are her own.


Even I am very interested to see how Tripatis deal with the truth. Actually, I want to see the Tripatis unknowingly observe Aditya's change around them and around Imlie before the truth comes out. And when the truth is revealed, for them to join the dots about what they have been seeing since some time and it all making sense to them. Just like when Imlie blurted out the truth when she was imitating Aditya about not stepping in his room, the Tripatis remembered various instances where they had seen this but only connected the dots when the truth was spoken. Obviously, this marriage truth is much bigger, but at least they should see all kinds of hints before the truth is revealed. Let's see how they react to it.

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