Independence what is it afterall

I Am really curious to know What is independence to you? What do you actually mean when you say independent and empowered ? I ask this because I keep seeing big deal made outta imlie being dependent in some ways at adi being at Tripathis for now under the guise of naukrani when she actually isn't. A lot of hue and cry is always being made about it that she isn't empowered she isn't strong this shouldn't be her fate etc etc..

But then in the very next breath all that goes out of the window with she should marry x,y,z she should bay for adi's blood and kisi ke saath bhi chalegi as far as it is not adi and he gets to mop and grovel. the question of whether that will make her dependent goes out if the window then caz then it gives us some sort of sadistic pleasure and cheap thrills..

Empowerment is only limited till she is with adi till she isn't giving long long preachy bhashans..

To me personally imlie is independent already.. as they have made it very obvious over and over that IMLIE ki pehchaan woh khud hai.. she doesn't need adi ya koi bhi aur to feel her worth.. na aage na peeche na saath main in her own words.. she is empowered enough which reflects in her choices.. she never dabofies and takes her own calls and is a decision maker. She calls the day on her own terms instead of listening to others.. then why is she not considered empowered enough🤔 then why the need to constantly hook her with some random aadmi at any given moment in a blink and miss.

How does that makes the society different than NN who did the same and got rid of her in an isntant curbed her choices at the very first chance she got caz she also wanted some sadistic pleasure and had the thinking ke she can't be on her own.. why is it that the society just cannot take a girl with her own pehchaan and let her live on her own terms.. it is kinda hilarious that despite all day making a hoopla over we want independent strong characters and all the one girl who is independent in many ways isn't considered that caz she isn't doing bhashanbaazi and giving khokle gyaans and bhashans which most if these so called "empowered girls* never ends up following anyway and say for the sake of trp bait.. but one where the actions speaks louder then words it is termed as regressive and backwards caz yeh speeches nahi hote and silently imlie displays her resolve..

When will the society stop the fantasies about tying a girl with a guy no matter who what how? Just caz they think she can't be enough for herself and agar ek pasand nahi hai humein toh ek se chutkara leke dusre se band jao caz that is empowering caz now you have taken your revenge of some sort and can feel superior. When will this very need to revenge lena hai in every matter and her cheez ek ego ka masla hai and is a dusre ko neecha dikhana routine stop..when will we let girls what they want to do just caz they want to do it instead of making it a matter of win or loss. Why can't girl like imlie survive on their own despite fighting tooth and nail for it ?? I mean we as a society don't even let them thrive in fictional world either without feeling rhr need to tie them.with any moving thing but then we are the very same people who complain ke they don't show us empowered characters when there are characters like imlie who exist but are not counted in any ginti caz they aren't doing the morchabaazi.

Why this twisted idea of Empowerment and isme hi kisi se bandh ke hi raho yeh nahi toh yeh..

How is it anyways about imlie being dependent or independent when all it comes down to adi feeling jealous of some Tom.dick and Harry and that is considered the entire plot and story. It really isn't about whether imlie is independent or no afterall at that point is the gist I get and that just sounds like a khokhla reason to make up some fanfiction

So now comes the main question what is it afterall yeh ke kisi se badle nikaal lo.ya yeh ke sach main being able to make your own choices because you want too and not caz kisi ko neeche dikhana chahte ho kisi se vengeance nikalni hai.?

Caz the idea of independence I get generally here is the 2nd part of this.. independence only matters when imlie is at tripathis not when she can be married off to koi aur which makes it a very matter of some ego battle and being used as a cover to curb that very obvious dislike

Of one would really care about an independent and empowered Imlie they will let her make her own path whether she then chooses Aditya ya koi aur out ya her being single all of her life out of her will they will respect her choice and decision instead of crying over yeh kyin nahi match bana yeh kyin nahi bana .

Sigh** a lot has been going in my head * and I was forced to make this post reading some of the stuff

And one more thing.. it is like the makers show something else but people watch something else. Aur kuch ahi toh the characters you love or well claim to love unka hi respect kar lo...it is like none of the things they say seem to register.. despite imlie being so offended by the very idea of the dusri shaadi and taking such a big step due to.that didn't registered anything with the audience.. it is still stuck at imlie ki shaadi Kara do jealousy mil jaayegi yeh woh.. it is like story and track kuch aur chal raha hai uss point se aage aa gayi hai baat lekin we will unsee all that progress the characters made it their POV's in the story to be Stuck at our 1 dimensional thought process.. really makes one wonder if it the same show that everyone watches and do anything anybody says gets processessed at all.

She is in fact the most independent of the lot. Despite everything flung her way.

The only thing missing in her life (material requirements aside) is someone in the role of a guide/ mentor which is where Aditya comes in. That is going to be the most important part of his equation with her.

About the other aspects being discussed, I have my noise cancellation always on. Main toh dekh rahi hoon A. Kisi aur ko agar Z dikh gaya, I have stopped bothering about it

Originally posted by: MuteButton

She is in fact the most independent of the lot. Despite everything flung her way.

The only thing missing in her life (material requirements aside) is someone in the role of a guide/ mentor which is where Aditya comes in. That is going to be the most important part of his equation with her.

About the other aspects being discussed, I have my noise cancellation always on. Main toh dekh rahi hoon A. Kisi aur ko agar Z dikh gaya, I have stopped bothering about it

Thank you for replying caz seemed like nobody had any logical answers to give

It really makes one wonders if independence of any sort actually is the main goal or it is just an easy word thrown in for other agendas caz one can't go and campaign for them otherwise so let it be glossed over with we want empowerment and independence let's just forget that the girl is already independent hahah

About mentor yes she didn't had someone to show her the way to put her on the path of achieving her wider goals as In no guidance as such and a very vague idea. No friends and peers as such who can tell her now what she got the wazeefa what should be the next step and adi comes in at the right time to be that light.. that transition phase is hardest for any teenager all big life decisions too many ideas too many ambitions and at that time vagueness and lack of proper guidance doesn't work one needs a sane sound board to discuss their options and I am glad they are kinda touching on that too with adi questioning about her studies 😀 her college options every now and then

Another hiIalrious Bit for me is Imlie ka status elevate hona chahiye is the main Goal ke she shouldn' t be naukrani anymore Fair enough but Then again the sentence ends with Sundar se matchmaking karke shaadi set kara do.. Uhh how will that elevate her status sundar se shaadi karke ya Possible matchmaking karke bhi toh permanent naukrani ki stamp lag jaayegi😆 as he is their househelp and oh Tripathis ke ghar nahi chahiye but Dusra tripathi aka Nishu chalega 😆then She suddenly wouldn't be with tripathis jaise hahah

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Thank you for replying caz seemed like nobody had anything logical answers to give

It really makes one wonders is independence of any sort actually the main goal or it is just an easy word thrown in for other agendas caz one can't go and campaign for them otherwise to let it gloss over with we want empowerment and independence let's just forget that the girl is already independent hahah

About mentor yes she didn't had someone to show her the way to put her on the path if achieving her wider goals as I no guidance as such a very vague ideas. No friends and peers as such who can tell her now what she got the wazeega what should be the next step and adi comes in at the right time to be that light.. that transition phase is hardest for any teenager all big life decisions too many ideas too many ambitions and at that time vagueness and lack of proper guidance doesn't work one needs a sane sound board to discuss their options and I am glad they are kinds touching on that too woth adi questioning about her studies 😀 her college options every now and then

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I do not get it either. Maybe they think that agar naukri ho tabhi koi independent ho sakta hai. But that goes against so many homemakers. They keep everything together despite not having a corporate defined job. In this case Imlie survived in the city learning how to navigate on her own - cue the rickshaw episode or even the cricket episode.

Re guidance: Yeah, she definitely needs someone to show her the path and that is only because Satyakam probably has other priorities that take away his time from being invested. I mean, he is and will always be the father she never had but he has some distractions he needs to deal with. Aditya in that sense can be doggedly bent on getting her the right level of education she deserves. Let’s see what they do.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

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I do not get it either. Maybe they think that agar naukri ho tabhi koi independent ho sakta hai. But that goes against so many homemakers. They keep everything together despite not having a corporate defined job. In this case Imlie survived in the city learning how to navigate on her own - cue the rickshaw episode or even the cricket episode.

Re guidance: Yeah, she definitely needs someone to show her the path and that is only because Satyakam probably has other priorities that take away his time from being invested. I mean, he is and will always be the father she never had but he has some distractions he needs to deal with. Aditya in that sense can be doggedly bent on getting her the right level of education she deserves. Let’s see what they do.

it is not about naukri caz then technically her being naukar is one too and koi kaam chota bada nahi hota that also makes her very much independent and empowered ke apna khud kamati hai khud khati hai and apna ghar bhi chalati hai *shrugs* as you said sirf Corporate jobs hi jobs nahi hote.. It is more badle ki aag and sadism at play.. Ke bas adi nahi koi aur bas adi ka gahr nahikoi aur doesn't matter woh koi aur kaisa ho uski kya guranteee hai.. independent and self sufficient na hoti toh Bilkul akela Absolutly akela in shehar after all the emotional turmoil she went through she would have had done somethign major.. depression main chali jaati survive kar hi na paati caz all that she went through is a lot for anygirl her age to happen ek saath... WOh toh yeh emotionally strong thi jhel gayi & EK DUM AKELE apne dum pe having NOBODY absolutely NOBODY to hear her to hug her tocalm her down..

about Gudiance: SK is a good life coach he can help in that way but i doubt he actually has much knowledge of schools colleges and what programs are better then the other way and what should she do first way main.. or where opportunities lie etc..

Agree with all the points discussed. It doesn’t tire me to say that Imlie is the strongest and the most independent female character I have ever seen on Indian television. We have seen various times in the past, where the show promotes female empowerment but ends up becoming something completely different. It is such a revelation to get a show like this all the time.
Adi Imlie relationship is of course important to the story but that alone does not define Imlie. The emotional strength and maturity that Imlie is showing at such a young age is like no other and I think it is also important to talk about Mithi here.
Bringing up an independent and strong daughter in a village where people talk down on you for not having a husband is no easy feat. So when we talk about Imlie being independent and strong, it’s also largely because she has a very strong woman as her mother.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

it is not about naukri caz then technically her being naukar is one too and koi kaam chota bada nahi hota that also makes her very much independent and empowered ke apna khud kamati hai khud khati hai and apna ghar bhi chalati hai *shrugs* as you said sirf Corporate jobs hi jobs nahi hote.. It is more badle ki aag and sadism at play.. Ke bas adi nahi koi aur bas adi ka gahr nahikoi aur doesn't matter woh koi aur kaisa ho uski kya guranteee hai.. independent and self sufficient na hoti toh Bilkul akela Absolutly akela in shehar after all the emotional turmoil she went through she would have had done somethign major.. depression main chali jaati survive kar hi na paati caz all that she went through is a lot for anygirl her age to happen ek saath... WOh toh yeh emotionally strong thi jhel gayi & EK DUM AKELE apne dum pe having NOBODY absolutely NOBODY to hear her to hug her tocalm her down..

about Gudiance: SK is a good life coach he can help in that way but i doubt he actually has much knowledge of schools colleges and what programs are better then the other way and what should she do first way main.. or where opportunities lie etc..

Yeah, i do not know how empowerment and marrying her off to Sunder go hand in hand. Not saying his profession is demeaning. Just that woh house help hai toh if she marries him woh house help ki biwi hi keh laayegi. How does that do her standing any good?

And what is with the erasure of her marriage like Aditya did. Aditya toh phir bhi character hai, woh kare jo us character ko karna hai. But she is married period. Jaisi bhi hui ho, she is married. Do baar to the same man. Her faith in that marriage, is a thing of beauty in these times. I may not advocate for it completely, but look at that character’s faith right. That is a strength that not a lot of people these days possess. Why does this character have to marry someone else to become relevant. Waise bhi, jealousy does not necessarily mean you get disgruntled by looking at your loved one with the opposite gender. It maybe something as small as having a conversation with another person that can spark anger in someone. Aditya will not need a male alone to feel jealous/ territorial about Imlie.

Originally posted by: sandyjayaram

Agree with all the points discussed. It doesn’t tire me to say that Imlie is the strongest and the most independent female character I have ever seen on Indian television. We have seen various times in the past, where the show promotes female empowerment but ends up becoming something completely different. It is such a revelation to get a show like this all the time.
Adi Imlie relationship is of course important to the story but that alone does not define Imlie. The emotional strength and maturity that Imlie is showing at such a young age is like no other and I think it is also important to talk about Mithi here.
Bringing up an independent and strong daughter in a village where people talk down on you for not having a husband is no easy feat. So when we talk about Imlie being independent and strong, it’s also largely because she has a very strong woman as her mother.

So much word to it.. it is so hard to actually see the big promises being turned into actions something that doesn't happen usually and instead of celebrating that the general wish /demand is to downgrade the show to typical levels in name of Fake put on superficial empowerment

Her mother definately deserves props for that it is no easy feat to raise a daughter like this and not let her suffer from complexes of different sorts being a single mother that too have her out of wedlock in a village and still empower her in every which way and not let the world bog her down give her the freedom of soch let her fly like a bird. Make ways for her to educate herself by toiling extra hard just so she doesn't have to deal.with the fate that is usually associated with such children to make that difference and let her be the person she is