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Posted: 4 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Thank you for your post! I haven't watched since yesterday😎. Your posts give me a clear picture of the episode and the probable thought behind it. Khoob aabhaar!

I don't trust the creatives too much with this track. They have so much to show, they're refusing to budge beyond CN.. that too the zillat arena!

Like you said, if they use this time fruitfully to explore the past, the current machinations, if they unravel the knots, using as much drama as they normally do, they have an interesting track on hand.

I hope Neil recovers well and the other cast are all negative.

Thank you 🤗❤️

They can actually do a lot with or without the hero right now... we can only wish. Would it be that difficult for them to actually even get his close ups? All it needs is a setting wherever he's isolated.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't know why people have sky high expectations from a 19 yo when pulkit and virat are behaving the way they are.

If virat could look at a college form and shut the case with conclusion that sangeeta is wife, then Sai can do the same too based on what she saw. In this crazy universe of ghkpm apparently thats enough proof. Additionally Sai has heard from Devi and Pulkit how they speak of each other, remember even minute details about the other, Sai trusts that a doctor/professor that shes seen for several months has good intentions. Gut feel and woman's instinct is a strong tool. Ofcourse that is not enough to count as "proof". I'm not saying that she couldn't have been "smarter" about how she handled everything. Ofcourse she could have. But so could virat/pulkit. So why do we have high expectations only from Sai.

Virat's investigation was shoddy AF with premature closure. And hes so jazbaati about family that he has not treated this like a police officer. Instead he abused his position to access info at bank/college and then closed the case before looking at all angles and pronounced a verdict.

And pulkit despite learning about all this letter drama and how devi may potentially get separated from him again just after he found out about her state is showing NO urgency in handling this from the forefront.

And Sai is so naive that despite everything that bk gang/pp do, she doesn't play dirty with them, she doesn't treat them as an enemy trying to find their "weakness" and use it to her advantage. She simply states facts/truth. She will eventually learn tact because of the environmental shes now been thrust in. Its not that she cant play smart like she did with amey, but i think she genuinely thinks that if they are virats family and he respects them then maybe kuch toh acchai hogi unmein. Varna she would be more calculative and tactful when dealing with them.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: jankiraghav


Yes they have understood very well how to provoke Sai. And Sai, she is really trying hard but these people push her to her endurance limit with a lot of ease because Virat remains silent.

true but I felt soon his so called patience level is gonna end from last few epis changes are visible once she leaves him that day is gonna be really a bad day for chavans when their chaheetha beta stumbling upon real truth noone will be spared , well did u notice pakhis reaction when she was listening to sais and Ashwinis talk mujhe pure negative vibe agaya , like she was so determined then to do something strong to get sai out from virats life
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Posted: 4 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: ltelidevara

If this complaint of Sai is attended upon,more than half of their fights will get resolved not in the Zillat arena but in their room itself. I wonder why he won’t pool up his spirits and make it clear to his dil ki achi family members. Specially Vahini would have got the message sound and clear.

I agree with you Janaki on the physical intimacy part.It is a fact. Sai erred in this ( Devi Pulkit) issue since the begining and true to her nature,impulsively moving ahead. I hope she won’t get a road block in her endeavour ..Sai Joshi should learn from this experience and evolve to tackle more trivial issues that life will throw in her journey ahead.

You are right. She needs to see him standing up in the moment when it is needed; sometimes even if she's wrong and he's miffed, his family crosses boundaries they can't and shouldn't and like he instantly reminds her of her tone, language and things, he should also do that to the family. His silence really does make her feel lonely as she says. So ten moments of care do get diminished if someone who has no business in it questions those moments and recounts them as "ehsaan" he did for her and he remains silent about it. Sai is being impulsive,she has no business to make such proclamations about a mentally unsound daughter of the house without having the unquestionable evidence in her hand but she cannot be reminded of her mother's death at childbirth and her deceased father's teachings in such a contemptuous manner...

Physical intimacy is definitely important to bridge this gap between spouses and make them feel a complete sense of belonging and oneness...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeraja91

I don't know why people have sky high expectations from a 19 yo when pulkit and virat are behaving the way they are.

If virat could look at a college form and shut the case with conclusion that sangeeta is wife, then Sai can do the same too based on what she saw. In this crazy universe of ghkpm apparently thats enough proof. Additionally Sai has heard from Devi and Pulkit how they speak of each other, remember even minute details about the other, Sai trusts that a doctor/professor that shes seen for several months has good intentions. Gut feel and woman's instinct is a strong tool. Ofcourse that is not enough to count as "proof". I'm not saying that she couldn't have been "smarter" about how she handled everything. Ofcourse she could have. But so could virat/pulkit. So why do we have high expectations only from Sai.

Virat's investigation was shoddy AF with premature closure. And hes so jazbaati about family that he has not treated this like a police officer. Instead he abused his position to access info at bank/college and then closed the case before looking at all angles and pronounced a verdict.

And pulkit despite learning about all this letter drama and how devi may potentially get separated from him again just after he found out about her state is showing NO urgency in handling this from the forefront.

And Sai is so naive that despite everything that bk gang/pp do, she doesn't play dirty with them, she doesn't treat them as an enemy trying to find their "weakness" and use it to her advantage. She simply states facts/truth. She will eventually learn tact because of the environmental shes now been thrust in. Its not that she cant play smart like she did with amey, but i think she genuinely thinks that if they are virats family and he respects them then maybe kuch toh acchai hogi unmein. Varna she would be more calculative and tactful when dealing with them.

I agree. I felt bad when Virat couldn’t get a doubt after hearing Sai say..that she saw Devi name in file. Virat knew Sai never tell lies. Still he did not bother to think for a moment and doubt that something is fishy.
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Posted: 4 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: jankiraghrav

I think the biggest fool is Pulkit because having gone through it once (if he is really the one who was wronged), he should have put up a better fight now, armed with proofs that he didn't have the last time. What was the bravado in walking into the Chakram Niwas, telling them Sai brought him there and then just sitting back and relaxing while Sai fights with Virat 😵 And upar se, he's even getting hurt when Sai is questioning him...

Statue of Susheelta ka toh kya kehna... She will only be unmasked when Bhavani pulls the plug on her. Tab tak, she is going to remain bhaavi-Badi Mami of the house 😆 Her sadness for Devyani is more irritating than her venomous voice for Sai. I mean this woman actually thinks she's right. She needs a psychiatrist.

Can't agree more regarding pulkith... The man who claims Devi is his life and got the second chance to get his life back , but he so casually sitting in his house and make others fight for him that to not providing any information or proof...

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Posted: 4 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9


Marriage ki training nhi milti kahi se , na hi coaching classes jalte hain.


In country name India it is not considered an ajooba that girl is married in 18.


Rajasthan , harayana , himachal pardesh, Uttar Pradesh , bihar , jharkhand ke kuch rural parts mein aaj bhi ladkiyo ki shaadi 18 yrs pe ho jati hain infact himachal pradesh ke kuch rural parts mein Draupadi pratha follow ki jaati hain jisme a girl get married 3 or 4 brothers.


I did not say, it does not happen and yes they are no schools or coaching classes ,but they jave home and society where they see girls around them getting married at 18 or married to a family of 3-4 brothers and just because it happens DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT!!!


Ye understanding , respect , trust etc sirf one sided kyu hai , or sirf virat ki zimmedari kyu hai ? Aise to koi vaada nhi kiya virat ne or na hi unki original deal ka hissa hain.


Sai jab chahe virat ki insult kar sakti hain but virat had keep her respect &, fight for it , why ?

In marriage both bride & groom give vow that they will keep d respect of other person. Yes respect has to be earned & it's a 2 way road


YES,you are right I have never said what Sai does is right, as i mentioned earlier it has to be from both sides, but Sai has never bought Virat's parents or insulted them, even when someone insults Virat's mother, even before he can counter she is there standing as a sheild.It was again I expect from Virat because he is an IPS officer who is given the responsibilty of women safety of the area; if he does not vocal about what wrong happens to women in his house by his own family..I will raise a question because according to a survey 80 percent of crime against women are always involving some or other family member.So, if he has to go and transform society and maintain law and order, it should start from his own home.


Obsessed ok , even sai is obsessed to make devi marry pulkit without doing any background of pulkit herself for she is trusting blindly without thinking d consequences or possibility that what if pulkit really turn out fraud , then what will happen to devi.


Virat to bilkul bekaar or ghatiya hain , kissi kam ka nhi . He is farzi IPS


Farzi state topper or medical student sai Joshi to kaam ki hain , dint she heard about DNA test


Vo kis bases pulkit pe yakeen kar rahe hain , kya bachpan se janti hain pulkit ko ? Agar virat ko galat documents show ho sakte hai to pulkit kyu nhi show kar sakta


Yes Sai did not did the proper investigation but she is not the IPS, Virat is ?? Then how come he comes with wrong information...his 5 year of training was to catch criminals so then, how he can be so easily manupilated?? That too by vedi vahini..

I just don't understand how you are comparing Sai and Virat in this matter???


Ok, so Sai will do DNA test and than what??how does it proves Pulkit's character that he is not having illicit relationship with madhuri or never had a hawai wife named Sangeeta??

Also, Dna test if proves Devyani is the mother and Pulkit is father; Bhawani can/will blame pulkit of kidnapping??The woman who gave away a new born baby that too her granddaughter of all people ,just for her jhooti shaan ; do you think she will not harm Harini now!!As a father ; why Pulkit will put her daughter in line, also we do not know how pulkit got harini ; it could be some illegal way; it does not make him a bad person ; just a desperate father.

I urge you look at the episode, where Bhawani is telling PP how she told Pulkit his child was born dead.

Also, I waiting for the plot to show how pulkit got harini, based on if CV deem us capable of understanding the track and introduces it.😑At this point, i literraly have no hopez from this shoddy writing.


Kissi ke upbringing pe questions karne haq kissi ko nhi hota , virat was definitely wrong their to stay silent there but virat only once said sai don't realise what type of image she is creating for herself with constant fights with them.


I really don't understand what Image you guys are talking about, not only you or virat but in real life my mother and other neighbouring aunties..

Why a girl/woman/ man/ humanbeing should be considering about being nice and to placitate others or keep everyone happy about their life choices like how I talk, what ideals i hold etc..

And why as a society we have to be judgemental ? ??


Sai is proving herself that kamal sir thought only to fight for each & every thing , force people see a thing jisse prove karne ke liye uske ke pass khud saboot nhi hain , vo kis base itna arguement kar rahi hain.


Regarding printed letter , I will req u see d episode where in GC Vittal mane attacked virat with a smoke bomb he left a printed letter there warning virat to leave GC , tab KJ only said we can't prove this letter is written by Vittal mane coz he had printed it .


I agree on most and diagree @Bold

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

The entire problem from the beginning is this - she didn't take Virat into confidence first. Okay let that be aside even for the sake of argument. So she herself also did not get into the story at all. As if it was enough to just find Pulkit and bring him home to claim that Devyani and he were separated for ulterior motives. Who will prove it? Pulkit is least interested and seems to have no evidence but Sai has shown no inclination to find out either. She still doesn't want to know what happened. How can one be so convinced without even having basic questions in the head. Pulkit said he would tell about Devyani later, she didn't prod him but accepted the gifts. She could have pushed Virat to come along and speak to Pulkit and find out, he would have agreed eventually if she had insisted. Can she not do it any other way? That's the whole question. What is the need to be confrontational always. Forget the Makad Gang for once, but she knows Virat has been misled and is genuinely worried for Devyani. He is not retracting from his word due to some ulterior motive. She cannot deal with it like a 'challenge' instead of bringing him on board.


Right, she jumps the gun and is irrational.

@bold very true, she knows it but did not think about it while refusing to believe him. As someone had said, she could have worded it better.


He is a person who couldn't accept that she bought that boxing stuff as a gift for him and wanted her to get him something of his choice, that he would have liked. How did she then think that she can just tell him that she doesn't trust him and that she has faith in her professor. It will not go well with him at all. It doesn't come out the way as it should. Or should we say it looks to him that she has no trust on him, anyone will think that way let alone him.

As you have said she should have taken him into confidence. And the gang knows her better, knows how she would react and how that is going to affect him. They have always been observing the couple.

It is quite surprising that they have never questioned her after she declared that her marriage was a deal. Wouldn't take too long for them to bring that into picture and asking her to stay away from their household matters.


You are right, she should try to bring him on board. I am just hoping she will be trying to do that when they are in their room. But it is not going to be of any help because he is high on emotions, one for his sister and other that she didn't trust him enough.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: Sairat


I agree on most and diagree @Bold


No I never said it is right , I just told ki aisa hota hain india ke kuch parts hain mein , Draupadi pratha is actually a wrong practice sadly itne law hone ke baad bhi follow hoti hain.


Pulkit & madhuri themselves r creating confusion . In bank when virat asked madhuri about harini she said shaadi ke baad why not shaadi se pehle . C gang can still harm harini if they want coz sooner or later they will come to know about get existence.


Mere pass pulkit ke liye bahut question hain.


Fight karne mein koi problem nahi but aap points pe fight karo , bina points ki fight pe dono parties bewakoof dikhti hai, cgang ke pass koi point nhi hota tab bhi vo zabardasti sai se fight karte hai , to sai bhi defence mein ladti hain so points dono parties ke pass nhi hote hain. Agar mein apse bina kissi point ke ladna shuru kar du to shayad aap ek do baar jawaab de do lekin baad mujhe bewakoof kahoge.


Yahi hua sai jis baat ko proof karne ke liye argue kar rahi hain , open challenge de rahi hain , usse proof karne ke liye uske pass ek proof nhi hain vo tab bhi fight kar rahi or ye bhi expect kar rahi hain ki virat usse samjhe jab same cheez vo khud bhi kar rahi .


Sai trusting pulkit above Virat irking him was not coz of jealousy , possessiveness or obsession but it gave msg to virat that sai don't trust him .


Cgang or pakhi didi ko 2 aim poore ho rahe hain pehle no more devkit wedding , dusra sairat seperation , why will they leave d opportunity which sai is giving them easily .


If u remember after ladhak trip cancellation kaku said to pakhi time moves in circle Sai herself will drive virat away from herself.

Edited by Fruitcustard_9 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I feel you.. These are all questions that they won't have the answers to. How would a brother like Virat and a curious person like Sai not want to know the entire story before jumping on to shopping for the wedding? Why did no one even want to know where Pulkit was all these years? Not even about Harini? It is just big fat loopholes that have taken away the charm from the track and the characters. I am not able to understand either of the two on this matter -- Virat or Sai. More Sai, actually, because she is the one who is "convinced" but absolutely unaware. If for a second, Virat says, "Okay I will support you, tell me what happened 10 years ago?" She will only keep staring at his face. How can she just declare a war without even preparing for it!? 🤔


I can't make head and tail of this track. They have successfully turned the smartest characters completely dumb!😆

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