Subaah phir aayegi.... - Page 7

Originally posted by: laksh

Awesome. Thanks for the brilliant analysis.

Bulls eye :

"No one is condemned without a hearing... What happened to principles of natural justice? "

This is something that I am not able to understand. It made sense to not talk to Pulkit (which Sai anyway did?) until he finishes his investigation so that the suspect doesn't get alert if he was a fraud. But when he has gathered evidence what is stopping him from confronting him?

It is the same guy who let a college student go free with a warning so that he is given a chance to redeem.

From what we have seen so far and what I have observed is that he has no control over his emotions.

One has to control their emotions and though it might be about his sister, he has investigated it as an IPS officer and he should have acted like one than a brother. He cannot do such a shoddy work.

As you have mentioned, I couldn't understand why did he not do a background check? Neighbours or school records?

The brother in him took over. It was due to the disappointment that his Tai is not going to get a happy life; that he thought his sister found after many years.

The happiness or the hope that was visible when he was speaking to his wife that his sister probably will get alright if she gets united with her husband was shattered and he couldn't handle it? If the intent is to reform her life, he cannot let a brother take over now.

He would have undergone training to handle pressure and stress and I am not sure when will we see him using them at times like this.

As you have rightly pointed out, he is not in that stage where if he and his spouse are in disagreement, he can stand up for her or fight for her.

Sometimes I really feel that whatever feelings he has for his wife is not getting substantiated.

The open challenge that Sai gave, even after all this and clearly they have plotted against the wedding and she is aware of it since she had a look at the same document and believes that it is their doing, she still thinks she can challenge? She thinks that she can go against his warning and elope with his sister? Again whatever she is also doing is based on trust and her instincts.

Can she not do it any other way? Can she not try to prove it to him by investigating that she failed to do all these while?

The entire problem from the beginning is this - she didn't take Virat into confidence first. Okay let that be aside even for the sake of argument. So she herself also did not get into the story at all. As if it was enough to just find Pulkit and bring him home to claim that Devyani and he were separated for ulterior motives. Who will prove it? Pulkit is least interested and seems to have no evidence but Sai has shown no inclination to find out either. She still doesn't want to know what happened. How can one be so convinced without even having basic questions in the head. Pulkit said he would tell about Devyani later, she didn't prod him but accepted the gifts. She could have pushed Virat to come along and speak to Pulkit and find out, he would have agreed eventually if she had insisted. Can she not do it any other way? That's the whole question. What is the need to be confrontational always. Forget the Makad Gang for once, but she knows Virat has been misled and is genuinely worried for Devyani. He is not retracting from his word due to some ulterior motive. She cannot deal with it like a 'challenge' instead of bringing him on board.

Originally posted by: Roch

@ Filhaal jis hisaab se they are going. It feels like a teenage lovestory, jahan college se bhaaga kar do logo ki shaadi ho rahi hain. Pulkit is toh a mature guy right, he has a daughter toh atleast woh toh soche iss baare mein.

They could have just showed Harini in the orphange only at least itna bura toh nahi lagta. Aur track bhi logical lagta. Phir Madhuri kaise aati picture mein.

Waise if vahini has done all this, then how come she knows about Madhuri and not about HArini.

The proofs were changed in college only and not in the bank 😲

But that's what I was asking during that letter reading session that if they actually went out to find out about Madhuri, why didn't they also mention the child to make it even more incriminating, no one is mentioning the child because the next question would be "DNA test". It would be so unbelievable if one "so-called IPS", one physician and one aspiring doctor do not think of a DNA test even 😆

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

The entire problem from the beginning is this - she didn't take Virat into confidence first. Okay let that be aside even for the sake of argument. So she herself also did not get into the story at all. As if it was enough to just find Pulkit and bring him home to claim that Devyani and he were separated for ulterior motives. Who will prove it? Pulkit is least interested and seems to have no evidence but Sai has shown no inclination to find out either. She still doesn't want to know what happened. How can one be so convinced without even having basic questions in the head. Pulkit said he would tell about Devyani later, she didn't prod him but accepted the gifts. She could have pushed Virat to come along and speak to Pulkit and find out, he would have agreed eventually if she had insisted. Can she not do it any other way? That's the whole question. What is the need to be confrontational always. Forget the Makad Gang for once, but she knows Virat has been misled and is genuinely worried for Devyani. He is not retracting from his word due to some ulterior motive. She cannot deal with it like a 'challenge' instead of bringing him on board.

Sister, the problem is we are trying to find a logic which does not exist in this track. Sai behaved like an 18 year old and went with her instincts. Virat did not use his brain initially, but when he used he got played. Fine, understood arey but in all this there is this guy who wants to marry Devyani at least he can come clean and tell the entire story. Why cant they handle the side characters properly, they could have given a 3-5 minutes monologue of Pulkit instead of showing Vahini in every second frame.

What are we supposed to do looking at her, fine she is the mastermind what next. She stopped the wedding hurray, and pitted Virat and Sai against each other. Mission accomplished.

Virat is not ready to talk to Pulkit, at least Pulkit can approach Virat tell him what happened. Its not like they don't know each other. In all this what is Pulkit doing, he is waiting for Sai to do everything and what will he do????

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

But that's what I was asking during that letter reading session that if they actually went out to find out about Madhuri, why didn't they also mention the child to make it even more incriminating, no one is mentioning the child because the next question would be "DNA test". It would be so unbelievable if one "so-called IPS", one physician and one aspiring doctor do not think of a DNA test even 😆

Don't worry sister that is reserved for a separate track altogether. I thought they would bring some creativity with this track but nope they are simply copy pasting nothing else. They just glorify the scenes and increase the element but the content (also the dialogues) are just the same.

Originally posted by: Sairat

If you find that Virat is not possesive or his possesiveness has reached obsession ; i would say you are wrong..

Sarplekha tried everything; but the cunning woman she is ; she understands Virat insecurities with Sai (I am not saying Sai is not responsible for those insecurities, she is) but that does gives a free paas to Virat as an IPS officer or husband to allow others to insult his wife; whom he wants to call and respect as husband..one should earn that..

Virat has earned that respect in terms of IPS officer; that is why she calls him sir;

But as a husband she is still in murky waters, the marriage that started as a deal..they are both trying to understand and to gain mutual trust and understanding..at this point Virat has to be understanding because he is the elder one( or in his words mature)..

Sai is only 19 and people don't actually know the actual meaning of marriage at such age..specially who were not trained for it since childhood.

It's not just about being trained since childhood... infact never about being trained (Vahini ko dekho yaar, unke Aai Baba ne kitna sikhaya hai 🤪). It is about the own mental preparedness. She was not readying to be married but to study. She was not even looking for a relationship when all of a sudden she has a dozen of them -- all new, mostly hostile (including jhoolta hua dealwala Pati) and obviously add to her unwillingness, the conditions of the "deal" and "vaada" and the presence of the Vada-wali Vahini, who "dhaddhadate huye andar aa jaati hai"... has anyone, including Virat, actually allowed her to settle in this marriage?

I agree that Sai is rude when he asks her questions to get some reassurance etc, but that is not because she wants to insult him. It is because that is her defence mechanism to not let him know how he affects her and means to her. She can't let that guard down -- the only way to push him back is to irk him, tell him off... The couple of times that she didn't do it, he enjoyed it as well but then those are moments when they are both really high on their oxytocin. 🤣

Originally posted by: msin

I was watching the initial episodes I had skipped quite a bit .. when I saw samrat entry I could not even believe this was Chavan nivss this was such a warm family .. Kaku seemed a strict but nice matriarch throughout the shadi scenes ...

Now I see after sayi ke entry .. they are like pack of hyenas.. are they the same ..

Sonali , omi all seemed funny .. just what has happened

Oh yes, they had such friendly vibes going in those episodes. One could only tell that Bhavani was difficult to please, putting down Ashwini and had the final word in the house but the entry of the two bahus has really brought some other kind of madness there.... I guess it is because they are actually in two teams now.

The initial episodes did not make it seem like Ashwini and Ninad had so much problem between them either or may be it was a show for the family functions and Virat -- guess the display was for the susheel bahu since it was all Bhavani's choice. And since, they have been only facing difficult times -- Samrat missing, Ashwini taunting Ninad Bhavani after discovering Patralekha's 'love' for her son, entry of Sai and so on...

EDIT: Actually, if you see the Gruh Pravesh episode also, they had these friendly vibes going in until they saw Sai with Virat. The tiny kitchen scene between the three older bahus was quite okay... It just went downhill for their equation after Sai's entry.

Originally posted by: linakusharberry

thing is kaku knows vahinis real intentions do u remember the scene when kaku sternly ask what's between vahini and virat , vahini got scared then told dosti hai , then kaku with look like I know everything , her motive that time was to make pakhi stay since Samrat left all money for her and his mother's need , then now she know pakhi is after sai , like she can do anything to get rid off her ,jaiseh Mohit neh bola pakhi looks for minute detail to just insult sai , so kill two birds with a stone , kaku pakhi seh bhi shaatir hai

oh yes, she has also observed Sai taunting Virat with an eye on PP on a few occasions too... It has been unmissable for Bhavani. And yes, she is the cunning one. The one who has no love for her own daughter and no remorse for the action. "Mujhe khushi hai ki meri beti mere paas toh hai" was her dialogue, how can she be a 'mother' to Vahini? Patralekha is just a pawn. When Samrat comes back, Bhavani will stop promoting Vahini to go after Virat, even if Sai is around. She probably doesn't know that.

Originally posted by: Sairat

If you find that Virat is not possesive or his possesiveness has reached obsession ; i would say you are wrong..

Sarplekha tried everything; but the cunning woman she is ; she understands Virat insecurities with Sai (I am not saying Sai is not responsible for those insecurities, she is) but that does gives a free paas to Virat as an IPS officer or husband to allow others to insult his wife; whom he wants to call and respect as husband..one should earn that..

Virat has earned that respect in terms of IPS officer; that is why she calls him sir;

But as a husband she is still in murky waters, the marriage that started as a deal..they are both trying to understand and to gain mutual trust and understanding..at this point Virat has to be understanding because he is the elder one( or in his words mature)..

Sai is only 19 and people don't actually know the actual meaning of marriage at such age..specially who were not trained for it since childhood.

Marriage ki training nhi milti kahi se , na hi coaching classes jalte hain.

In country name India it is not considered an ajooba that girl is married in 18.

Rajasthan , harayana , himachal pardesh, Uttar Pradesh , bihar , jharkhand ke kuch rural parts mein aaj bhi ladkiyo ki shaadi 18 yrs pe ho jati hain infact himachal pradesh ke kuch rural parts mein Draupadi pratha follow ki jaati hain jisme a girl get married 3 or 4 brothers.

Ye understanding , respect , trust etc sirf one sided kyu hai , or sirf virat ki zimmedari kyu hai ? Aise to koi vaada nhi kiya virat ne or na hi unki original deal ka hissa hain.

Sai jab chahe virat ki insult kar sakti hain but virat had keep her respect &, fight for it , why ?

In marriage both bride & groom give vow that they will keep d respect of other person. Yes respect has to be earned & it's a 2 way road

Obsessed ok , even sai is obsessed to make devi marry pulkit without doing any background of pulkit herself for she is trusting blindly without thinking d consequences or possibility that what if pulkit really turn out fraud , then what will happen to devi.

Virat to bilkul bekaar or ghatiya hain , kissi kam ka nhi . He is farzi IPS

Farzi state topper or medical student sai Joshi to kaam ki hain , dint she heard about DNA test

Vo kis bases pulkit pe yakeen kar rahe hain , kya bachpan se janti hain pulkit ko ? Agar virat ko galat documents show ho sakte hai to pulkit kyu nhi show kar sakta

Kissi ke upbringing pe questions karne haq kissi ko nhi hota , virat was definitely wrong their to stay silent there but virat only once said sai don't realise what type of image she is creating for herself with constant fights with them.

Sai is proving herself that kamal sir thought only to fight for each & every thing , force people see a thing jisse prove karne ke liye uske ke pass khud saboot nhi hain , vo kis base itna arguement kar rahi hain.

Regarding printed letter , I will req u see d episode where in GC Vittal mane attacked virat with a smoke bomb he left a printed letter there warning virat to leave GC , tab KJ only said we can't prove this letter is written by Vittal mane coz he had printed it .

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

oh yes, she has also observed Sai taunting Virat with an eye on PP on a few occasions too... It has been unmissable for Bhavani. And yes, she is the cunning one. The one who has no love for her own daughter and no remorse for the action. "Mujhe khushi hai ki meri beti mere paas toh hai" was her dialogue, how can she be a 'mother' to Vahini? Patralekha is just a pawn. When Samrat comes back, Bhavani will stop promoting Vahini to go after Virat, even if Sai is around. She probably doesn't know that.

Originally posted by: linakusharberry

she is just using her tactics by hook or crook to make pakhi stay back , and also to defeat the tigeress sai she need this Cunning wixen with her , sai just reacts to pakhis every taunts kaku know that , her only motive is to get sai out , aur jab Sai jayega pakhi ka importance automatically kum hoga , bhavani chavan cares only for her pride money name fame nothing else ,

Yes they have understood very well how to provoke Sai. And Sai, she is really trying hard but these people push her to her endurance limit with a lot of ease because Virat remains silent.