IMMJ Episodes Discussion Thread #CXVI (Ep 212, Pg 56) - Page 98

Originally posted by: Nephy

I agree...

Look as far as I have seen or my analysis says that initial 50 were good basically they were not affected by tt so called fandom's opinions,first and foremost thing,after that there continous demand for RiAnsh to be in love,fandom wars and shashu bhai's depserate need to listen to them,they start showing them in love,it was not gradual it was very rushed like he conveniently didn't try to investigate mrs. D'souza's death while many things were their hinting at it being fishy started to add on loophole but okay maybe due to constant pressure they decided to encash RiAnsh popularity and like 20-30 episodes again came to business of showing AP as principal signatory with chacha in picture but most of the crew,director,Rrahul,chacha falling covid positive again destroyed their plans and introduced more loopholes so again after Rrahul's return they were clueless what to do,how to show vansh or write him resulting in his behaviour inconsistencies every now and than but than they planned for cliff fall and introduce a new track clearing whole mess as well as bridge for upcoming track so they gave 1-2 day off to cast and PH on their own basis tried to promote it as much as possible by repeated interviews by cast but it was clear that channel doesn't want this,channel even stopped simple promos on tv to attract audience but PH decided to move forward with their gut feeling amd shown stupid 2 weeks of Riddhima torture and Kabir's ajeeb psychoness becoz maybe they were writing for viva track and buying time and than track was introduced and as their expectations it was well thought track going in continuation with past story,viewers getting the whole scenario why it is happening,everything going on good and nice pace but than again some tt fans on every post of channel wanted Vansh and channel pressurised them and they again scrapped it in one day and thats the point where they lost every plot,they didn't knew what to do they have to go forward with plots of story but didn't knew how becoz they planned it with viva track and continuation so out of the blue added revenge track with third angle and made it horrible and loosing more grip and story being all over the place but they continue going with their plots without caring about execution becoz it was gone so much out of hand that they left it.

Its purely their incompetency they are in a business they should have taken control in initial phase only like wouldnot have listen to tt people of making RiAnsh fall in love in express speed,they should have planned that demands in such a way that even fans got tassali that both are going to be couple at the same time they could go with their speed clearing loopholes,in the same way while rrahul as well as crew getting positive they shouldn't just show anything,they should have thought a track with remaining cast in mind in continuity which will not add loopholes like sejal one but something in such a way that could feel continuity and with rrahul's return incorporate vansh in it and go forward with their chacha track and it is not something I am saying out of the world they are professionals and in this business they should have knowm how to handle but their incompetency and than scrapping of viva track with supercool revenge track🙄 added on lovey dovey RiAnsh after it make situation so out of hand ki even majhe hue people could not handle and according to their past,they are not even proper professionals toh inse toh kahan se hota and resulting they themselves lost interest amd gave up ki okay just show whatever.

This is a long analysis I made of whole kachra that happened...

The kachra started from the sejal track i feel...they should have properly considered what they were doing..i know they would have been thrown offguard by the lead getting covid but there was a way it could have been covered properly

And i personally liked the cliff scene..i understood why vansh was defeated, why he fell from the cliff, it was something i knew was always going to happen..some were disappointed because they always saw him as mm and could not see how he lost.

Its the aftermath where the makers lost it...it was clearly a gamble but they should considered the audience's sentiment.. abruptly stopped giving promos..did not care to promote the show,..

And then all of a sudden, ending the track just when the audience were getting used to it..

And the revenge track.. though i completely understand the revenge track, it was certain areas where they went overboard and destroyed vansh's character...they compromised with his morals which ultimately destroyed the essence of the show

Originally posted by: Priya12000

The kachra started from the sejal track i feel...they should have properly considered what they were doing..i know they would have been thrown offguard by the lead getting covid but there was a way it could have been covered properly

And i personally liked the cliff scene..i understood why vansh was defeated, why he fell from the cliff, it was something i knew was always going to happen..some were disappointed because they always saw him as mm and could not see how he lost.

Its the aftermath where the makers lost it...it was clearly a gamble but they should considered the audience's sentiment.. abruptly stopped giving promos..did not care to promote the show,..

And then all of a sudden, ending the track just when the audience were getting used to it..

And the revenge track.. though i completely understand the revenge track, it was certain areas where they went overboard and destroyed vansh's character...they compromised with his morals which ultimately destroyed the essence of the show

Hmm,you didn't read I have written same thing almost.

I think there most of the people working in creative team are below average....and not enough passionate for their work.

Originally posted by: Priya12000

You said you "only" like riddhima's character "now" which indicated you did like the other characters before at one point...which i feel is untrue.

Only and now being the key words

"I think about revenge track from Vansh side also. I am not going to justify what he did but understand his revenge after thinking about it. From Vansh point of view he believed that Riddhima harm Siya, Riddhima is responsible for Ragini's death, Riddhima wanted to send him jail and Riddhima married him for a mission. Though I expected Vansh to be more smarter but what PH are showing we have to except that not what we imagine. So I think even after this half truth base misunderstanding, Vansh wanted to give Riddhima one more chance because he loves her so much. That's why he asked her to kill Kabir though it was very extreme. But that time Vansh was to broken to think something sensible. Even when he was wanted Riddhima to leave and believe that he moved on, still he couldn't stop himself not to go outhouse. He goes to check Riddhima at night in out house also. So I think no matter what Vansh would never leave Riddhima. If Siya would not told the truth and Riddhima successfully leave the house, than also after sometimes I think Vansh would go behind her. Because he can't live without her and I saw him switching between love and revenge from all the times. So according to Vansh character, I understand how hard it was for him to forgive Riddhima. But I am glad that end of the track both forgive each other and both still love each other so much. For me both Riddhima and Vansh are flawed characters but they love each other, that's the only thing matter for me the most. So RiAnsh is not ruined for me and I still ship them after thinking from both the point of views and end of the day it's a TV show for entertainment not for some moral policy. You all can agree or disagree if you want."

Originally posted by: Priya12000

Patha nahi..the way the loose ends were getting cleared..i thought the story ll be over..but now don't know who to believe

People are saying separation or memory loss hoga but jis confidence se kehrahe hai na mujhe toh lagraha aisa bilkul Nahi hoga.i mean when hav our theories ever come true.

The show needed a revamp.. because there is nothing left in the story..

RIANSH have become so monotonous..no layers in their relationship at all..

Everything is so predictable in the script..

So they sho have worked on a new story..these people are so stupid yaar

Originally posted by: S10DOT2

I didn't liked or disliked any characters, but I find Vansh's character interesting for sure. I even find Vihaan's character was more interesting. But after revenge track I lost my connections from Vansh's character. If you see my earlier post from Iya10, then there is a post about "conclusion of revenge track from my point of view" where I tried to understand Vansh's character's revenge and even defend him about glass house matter and allowing Ahana in the bedroom. But later I only got disappointed. So I am saying this truthfully. If you find it untrue than it's your opinions. But I will share my opinions what I feel now. So it's ok.

I have seen a lot of your posts and it has all being one dimensional that i can't stop myself from disagreeing with you.

A helly fan who only sees helly is how i see you..no offense

Originally posted by: Priya12000

You said you "only" like riddhima's character "now" which indicated you did like the other characters before at one point...which i feel is untrue.

Only and now being the key words

"There are many lopehole in the show which can be ignored and it was Riddhima who mention about Ahana first not Vansh. Maybe Riddhima wanted clarity about it and when Vansh cleared that he didn't gave any right which was Riddhima's I believed him that he didn't made Ahana stayed in their room and I didn't not imagine those dialogues in negative way. I imagine those dialogues in positive way like, though Ahana came to bedroom but later Vansh kicked her out saying that leave me alone like he said her once in a episode. So we should think positive not negative when PH never showed any negative scene. Remember in Vihaan time also on shower scene Vansh asked Riddhima are you jealous. Even in Ragini matter also asked Riddhima about being her jealous. And outhouse, Vansh goes there in night time also to check Riddhima. Vansh always wanted Riddhima no matter what. So sometimes his love overpowered his revenge like glasshouse moments and sometimes revenge overpowered everythings and it's ok. Because end of the day both are flawed character but they love each other it's only matters for me nothing else. It's a show for entertainment not for moral policy. So I always eliminate the negative part of the show from my mind and always remember the positive part of the show."

Originally posted by: Nephy

Hmm,you didn't read I have written same thing almost.

I think there most of the people working in creative team are below average....and not enough passionate for their work.

No no 😂😂...i read it fully.mein bas apna opinion de rahi thi...tumne di na..meine bhi di

Originally posted by: Priya12000

I have seen a lot of your posts and it has all being one dimensional that i can't stop myself from disagreeing with you.

A helly fan who only sees helly is how i see you..no offense

Originally posted by: S10DOT2

And this also my one of the earlier post from Iya10.

"There are many lopehole in the show which can be ignored and it was Riddhima who mention about Ahana first not Vansh. Maybe Riddhima wanted clarity about it and when Vansh cleared that he didn't gave any right which was Riddhima's I believed him that he didn't made Ahana stayed in their room and I didn't not imagine those dialogues in negative way. I imagine those dialogues in positive way like, though Ahana came to bedroom but later Vansh kicked her out saying that leave me alone like he said her once in a episode. So we should think positive not negative when PH never showed any negative scene. Remember in Vihaan time also on shower scene Vansh asked Riddhima are you jealous. Even in Ragini matter also asked Riddhima about being her jealous. And outhouse, Vansh goes there in night time also to check Riddhima. Vansh always wanted Riddhima no matter what. So sometimes his love overpowered his revenge like glasshouse moments and sometimes revenge overpowered everythings and it's ok. Because end of the day both are flawed character but they love each other it's only matters for me nothing else. It's a show for entertainment not for moral policy. So I always eliminate the negative part of the show from my mind and always remember the positive part of the show."

I have not seen this post before, only now and i second it.

But the posts i Have seen gave me a different notion

"If riddhima is wrong vansh is also wrong"

"If vansh can do it, why can't riddhima"

Are examples

Originally posted by: Priya12000

No no 😂😂...i read it fully.mein bas apna opinion de rahi thi...tumne di na..meine bhi di

Han ye hi likha meine bhi jo tumne likha but vo long analysis mein explain nhi kar payi mein😆

Tumne 2-3 track ko explain kiya...😆

Han vo cliff fall mujhe bhi aise koi out of character nhi lga tha but baad mein vo suicide attempt tha ye out of character lga kyunki vrs ka character aisa nhi ho sakta ki apni behan ko us condition mein chod apni family ko chod kar marne ke liye kud jaye( halanki ab toh mujhe pta hi nhi hai ki uska character hai kya,meine jo likha vo initial episodes ko basis leke likha)...toh vo cliff fall was not out of character but being it suicide attempt was...😆