Baiko ka 24K sone jaisa dil vs Vahini ke common sense ka overdose - Page 5

But i think pulkit does have evidence of previous marriage when Devi had no mental illness. Its just that bk gang is trying to mislead everyone by claiming pulkit is married to someone else and virat will probably find proof of previous legitimate marriage eventually after he has had a MU and kicked Sai out.

And even if theres no proof of previous marriage, if the court were to order an evaluation of Devi's competency to make decisions due to her her underlying psych illness that would show that she DOES have capacity to make her own decisions.

Originally posted by: Ishradivani

yeah was thinking this too !!!

Devyani definitely has the capacity to make decisions about her mental health , treatment and her life !!! She is not mentally sound totally but yes is competent!!!!

And as long as patient is competent enough to make decisions we don't depend on nominated representative. They are even eligible for independent admissions. Only in case of minors we will need a guardian which is not applicable here since she is an adult. But I am not sure what is the law in case of marriages ????

Janki didi should clear this legal aspect.

I just saw your comment... have replied to neerja. The issue is that the description of "mental disorder" is vague. Here is what the law states about a marriage with a person of unsound mind as being 'void':

when the party is:

(a) is incapable of giving a valid consent to it in consequence of unsoundness of mind; or

(b) though capable of giving valid consent, has been suffering from mental disorder of such a kind or to such an extent as to be unfit for marriage and the procreation of children; or

(c) has been subject to recurrent attacks of insanity or hysteria

So, in such a case where there is no "mutual agreement" between the family and the party marrying, there will be a challenge that will need to be addressed through the legal process of a medical assessment of her fitness, if the court thus orders. Otherwise, the odds are in favour of Bhavani, legally. It is easy for her to prove Devyani fits into all of the three categories.

Originally posted by: Roch

Her realization will come but it needs to be a bigger jolt for her and it will be there. Even though the story is known that is how it should be. He is the only one in her life which she relies on though does not accept. Any harm to him will make her realize all the feelings she has bottled up.

Originally posted by: jane_austen

I guess this will be the undercurrent of their separation, apart from the obvious one? Sai has to introspect on her flaws....she does not have any right to make unilateral decisions for Virat's sister, especially a mentally unstable one. But she won't. Because FL is always right..

That's true that fear of losing propels the instinct to also preserve. It will hold for both who thought they would get away with "umeed mat rakhna"

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I just saw your comment... have replied to neerja. The issue is that the description of "mental disorder" is vague. Here is what the law states about a marriage with a person of unsound mind as being 'void':

when the party is:

(a) is incapable of giving a valid consent to it in consequence of unsoundness of mind; or

(b) though capable of giving valid consent, has been suffering from mental disorder of such a kind or to such an extent as to be unfit for marriage and the procreation of children; or

(c) has been subject to recurrent attacks of insanity or hysteria

So, in such a case where there is no "mutual agreement" between the family and the party marrying, there will be a challenge that will need to be addressed through the legal process of a medical assessment of her fitness, if the court thus orders. Otherwise, the odds are in favour of Bhavani, legally. It is easy for her to prove Devyani fits into all of the three categories.

So in reality the court will order a mental status examination of the person involved. And the opinion of expert will have a say in deciding the future of the case !!!!

Chuck it not gonna get it in this detail on ITV but since devyani is capable of giving valid consent I will assume it to be this way 😂😂😂

Let's see if pulkit has some evidence. Must be having one though 🤞

If pulkit has some evidence now that they got married when devi is in sound mind will there still be a question of mutual agreement ??? Or he would considered as a guardian ???

Originally posted by: msin

Virat was in love with the idea of love .. he convinced himself he was in love with pakhi .. when he met her .. sunny egged him to name the infatuation as love .. and it’s a heady feeling..

When he met her next .. he lost her to his cousin .. it gave him a devdas kind of vibe .. and her tears moved him .. and he made those amazing promises

But he ran to save sayi .. then in GC .. he was busy with many things .. young lost love was there .. what with pakhi calling him regularly..

I found it funny when sayi asked the milkman virat .. that he scolds her Abd gives her lecture .. he said he is not like that with close friends.. then she says does your friend pakhi think like that .. where had pakhi seen virat .. she did not even know his name ..

Pakhi virat barely knew each other ..

When virat got married to sayi .. he obviously gave her the tall promises ..and called pakhi to attend his wedding .. why would u do that .. to do more drama .. and give it a devdas wala vibe ..

grand setting for maha Tyag.. and sayi took it very seriously..

Now 2 weeks of living with pakhi in the same house ..his attraction started to wean off from her .. he started getting more attracted to his green sari firebrand .. who’s witty and has more spunk than anybody in the house .. pakhi started looking more abd more bland to him ..

With instances of Amey n Aniket his mask of treating sayi as immature was totally gone .. he understands his wife is a child woman .. who has the instincts to flirt n tease .. Amey incident was a harmless episode .. but virat understood clearly .. his wife can play love games ..

since then he has been fully alert on his wife front abd has forgotten every Vaada given to others .. he has been throwing lines on love and all .. because he wants sayi to fall for him ..

so I feel .. virat gave the Vaada to vahini like a young boy .. who is passionate and filmy .. in love with the idea if love .. did not know anything about pakhi .. not even her name .. and was waxing deep platitudes

Now that he is seeing her .. where do we see him having deep conversations with her .. he is always cutting her conversation to pints of business .. there us nothing to show he enjoys her company.. Infact he was terrified of going alone to Ladakh with her bore ho jayega .. that is why he has forgotten the promise ..

Such a lovely analysis this one.. Haan it was more in his head than his heart.. Now when I look at Pakhi and Virat ..i cringe at the thought of what a disaster couple they would have made.. Virat is a man of ideals but then he doesnt have it in him to confront ..ro question the family members..may be because thats how he has grown up..Sai helps him bring out his ideals and models..without any inhibition.. giving him feathers.. Patralekha would have removed all possibilities of him flying ever.. Patralekha tab banti Virat ki aadat..aadat jo jhel rahe hain kyuki jhelna..Not the Aadat that Sai is to him..

Originally posted by: neeraja91

But i think pulkit does have evidence of previous marriage when Devi had no mental illness. Its just that bk gang is trying to mislead everyone by claiming pulkit is married to someone else and virat will probably find proof of previous legitimate marriage eventually after he has had a MU and kicked Sai out.

And even if theres no proof of previous marriage, if the court were to order an evaluation of Devi's competency to make decisions due to her her underlying psych illness that would show that she DOES have capacity to make her own decisions.

Even a photograph and Harini's DNA test and birth date (since they might not have the legal birth certificate) will be enough to prove the case in law. It is complicated but not impossible. So i really pray to Bappa that they use their logic and the trump card they have introduced instead of reducing it to a pea brained story of how the female lead has to be thrown out of the house for something as frivolous as a bad investigation

If he had legitimate proof of wedding, his story of not being there for 10 years to fight after knowing that she was hospitalised at child birth and separated from her child, is even more questionable. I would really think low of him if he believed that Devyani actually married and went off to live a better life after being separated from her child from her love marriage.

@bold: kuch jyada hi umeed nahi kar rahe hum in writers se? "Yahin toh karna hai" in Virat's words but yahi toh nahi ho raha hai. Ateet ko rehne do wala drama chal raha hai 🤪 so under current circumstances, it is illegal.

Nice update janki

Sai ki scholarship kal aa jayegi as per her😆

Originally posted by: jankiraghav

I just saw your comment... have replied to neerja. The issue is that the description of "mental disorder" is vague. Here is what the law states about a marriage with a person of unsound mind as being 'void':

when the party is:

(a) is incapable of giving a valid consent to it in consequence of unsoundness of mind; or

(b) though capable of giving valid consent, has been suffering from mental disorder of such a kind or to such an extent as to be unfit for marriage and the procreation of children; or

(c) has been subject to recurrent attacks of insanity or hysteria

So, in such a case where there is no "mutual agreement" between the family and the party marrying, there will be a challenge that will need to be addressed through the legal process of a medical assessment of her fitness, if the court thus orders. Otherwise, the odds are in favour of Bhavani, legally. It is easy for her to prove Devyani fits into all of the three categories.

But its not BK who will determine Devi's competency, its a psychiatrist right?

Plys technically this is a remarriage. Pulkit devi are legally married already. And bk is trying to show that pulkit is polygamous and currently has another wife but that eventually will turn out to be fake.

1. Devi despite her mental illness does have capacity to give valid consent

2. though capable of giving valid consent, has been suffering from mental disorder of such a kind or to such an extent as to be unfit for marriage and the procreation of children; or

This second point is vague but i think pulkit as a doctor himself is in a good position to take care of Devi and he has Madhuri who can be an added careaker too.

3. has been subject to recurrent attacks of insanity or hysteria - this we have not really seen but from what they've shown us Devi is not "hysterical" .

Another question thats not addressed clearly is whether devi truly has a psychiatrist treating her or if bk has somehow been getting psych meds herself without proper psychiatric evaluation and simply giving Devi meds without a proper prescription from a qualified medical professional.

Originally posted by: neeraja91

But i think pulkit does have evidence of previous marriage when Devi had no mental illness. Its just that bk gang is trying to mislead everyone by claiming pulkit is married to someone else and virat will probably find proof of previous legitimate marriage eventually after he has had a MU and kicked Sai out.

And even if theres no proof of previous marriage, if the court were to order an evaluation of Devi's competency to make decisions due to her her underlying psych illness that would show that she DOES have capacity to make her own decisions.

if Harini is their biological kid ... then any pic that they may have taken at their social marriage .. some priest can give proof ..

Also when pulkit takes her to a psychiatrist.. it can be revealed she was physically abused by her family members .. and any matter which is going to be registered in police station and all .. will give badnaami to Chavan house which Bhavani gang will not desire ..

Originally posted by: Ishradivani

just read that reply of yours !!!

So in reality the court will order a mental status examination of the person involved. And the opinion of expert will have a say in deciding the future of the case !!!!

Chuck it not gonna get it in this detail on ITV but since devyani is capable of giving valid consent I will assume it to be this way 😂😂😂

Let's see if pulkit has some evidence. Must be having one though 🤞

If pulkit has some evidence now that they got married when devi is in sound mind will there still be a question of mutual agreement ??? Or he would considered as a guardian ???

ye bhi complicated hai... there is something called limitation of suits -- which is a provision in law that does not ignore how lazy/ignorant the person has been by delaying legal action. Most cases have limitation time of 3 years after which a person may not be able to sue.

But in cases of crime, it does not apply. So if Pulkit has legitimate proof of marriage, he can file for her custody. Even if he doesn't it is not difficult, as I mentioned above but we are not in for any logic here, so we can only talk to increase our knowledge 😆