Addressing the elephant in the room... Note on Pg 21 (24 April) - Page 2

A much needed post to be honest. I totally agree with what you are saying. This is clearly NOT romance. It's such a sad reality that all of this is happening with millions of girls in the name of romance. Thank you so much for speaking up. All the girls who will read this will definitely get your perspective. I feel amazing after reading this. Thanks again ❤❤

I think 80s and 90s was the golden period of ITV era.

And then came these saas bahu dramas in 2000s and then the competition of ‘how more regressive’ one can be competition started and has been going on forever.

I wanted to say something similar but thought why waste my time .... we all know toxic normal gets trp so they will change nothing in this show .

That said like there are so many kinds of abuse not just physical sane goes for tears .... why romanticize his tears really ? Why do people think he is crying bcos he does not like using force ? The man himself clarified he does not think he is wrong so those tears could be anything from feeling humiliated to frustrated bcos he failed in controlling her and anything inbetween but nope not i am hurting her tears ..... they could even be she is not seeing me or doesnot care i am hurt tears ....anyway thats it do not want to talk about the chatacter at all .

As I mentioned before my sort of 2nd or 3rd ( if you count in handful of episodes i watched)show in 16 yrs of staying away from TV like the original (old) version of the title song saw these two got curious checked it out Sai retaliating made me think oh this could be different but now i Knowits toxic beyond real

I agree Virat is very human but he is not humane ....this show is not my idea of entertainment , am not into romance either more like i am about how the story is being told . And this show fails miserably in story telling rinse reboot repeat of various forms of abuse and getting innovative about it each day making it worse in each episode and justifying it with a sorry with no real retrospection or regret hits way too close to home for me .

I work with domestic abuse victims , deal with cops lawyers doctors children human trafficking under the guise of marriage etc on a daily basis seeing all being normalized and brushed under the rug and wanting this to go on and even romance to bloom is a definite nono for me

I like this forum bcos you can have / state your pov and not be dubbed as whatever ..... stopped watching long ago except for insta clips here n there in hopes may be just may be there could be a change .... but i guess not so will reduce n then exit bcos the various discussions / opinions am hooked to rather than the show .

@peppermint take care have a wonderful Life and may god bless you by strengthening the bonds of friendship you have in your life .... they r my lifeline and i am guessing urs too . Hope we do meet again somewhere someday ❤️

Really a wonderful post. 👏

I started to watch the show only for SaiRat. But I was so happy to see Sai's strong personality. No matter how she gets verbally abused, she knows how to tackle the family. I was also happy to see Virat was there as a support most of the times. But since the Ladhak trip cancelation, Virat has started lying and getting abusive too. Well the only positive thing is that he stopped on time from hurting her further and realized what he was doing unconsciously. I really wish they didn't copy paste from the original version of the show because as it is copy pasted they will continue to show Sai's mental pressures and probably more small physical abuses. 😕

I agree with your post. In fact this should be a disclaimer for all of us who make posts in this forum...that we do not support domestic abuse - physical or emotional. What Virat is doing is wrong, whatever be the'provocation'.

I personally feel this is an opportune time for the creatives to show very strongly, how wrong it is. That's why, yesterday's episode left me feeling cold. Abuse cannot be hidden under concern or protectiveness. Virat's realisation was too late. Till that point, he went on and on about Sai being wrong.

I have also written to the PH. Not that it would make a difference.

Bang on post! I have nothing more to add because you have covered it all beautifully.

I think I may know the show you were referring to initially because I was pretty much enamoured by the same show for the 16 year old me it was the epitome of Romance however it is scary to think what would happened if I had got into a relationship around the same time that may have turned abusive because I would have never been able to recognise the signs, since it was not just being normalised by National television but being portrayed as a passionate romance.

The said show did not even have a proper redemption arc, if anything it just went further downhill with the characterisations and normalising abuse and control.

If anything its massive success had succeeded in the production house promoting such toxicity with a string of shows in the same vein and premise till date.

Coming back to Virat, I mentioned in Janki's post that the makers probably never intended to portray him continously as how he was introduced in Gadchiroli! Because while audience had been waiting for Paakhi's facade to come down in front of Virat, it is actually Virat's facade that has come down in front of both Sai and the audience.

And like you have pointed out it is not an issue that Virat is being portrayed in such a manner but will he ever face consequences?

I think not because the makers had a choice to proceed with all this in a responsibile way but decided not to! The TRPs were fine even with Virat being on Sai's side as there was enough drama coming from the family front they had a choice to deal with this in the same way as the lathee drama that they had altered in the hindi version but nope. Which is why I find it a joke when ITV shows try to create social awareness for any cause I mean what's the point when you systematically promote abuse and misogyny? What's the point slogans like "Nayi Soch"?

The truth is I cannot ship Sairat anymore or look at them the same way, I may keep popping in and out for Sai but it won't be long before Sai gets butchered too!

I'v been in this forum for almost 13 yrs n over the whole time hv seen a lot of serials who hv tried to pass of severe atrocities by the ML as "pyaar". N literally hv been worried to see girls swooning over them. Manhandling girls seems to hv become a sign of macheoism. Thought that over a decade there wd be some vhnages in itv, bt nah. It's still promoting that same regressive content. 🤐

When watching a ipknd scene in passing my bro commented that such a relationship is toxic and one must always stand up. People may expect u as a women to suffer certain things but rem u have me and u are not a silly gal u are my strong anji and u will stand up for this promise me.

This promise helped when my life became bad due to my first marriage going haywire due to abuse and just as he promised he helped me walk away despite no other support

Sometimes it is the environment ..women are brought up to believe u need to adjust and compromise..some are lucky to have support and guidance some are not

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

When watching a ipknd scene in passing my bro commented that such a relationship is toxic and one must always stand up. People may expect u as a women to suffer certain things but rem u have me and u are not a silly gal u are my strong anji and u will stand up for this promise me.

This promise helped when my life became bad due to my first marriage going haywire due to abuse and just as he promised he helped me walk away despite no other support

Sometimes it is the environment ..women are brought up to believe u need to adjust and compromise..some are lucky to have support and guidance some are not

I cannot agree more and silently putting up with all such is often more dangerous in real life than people in this showbiz know or care about . Sitting in a closed room and romanticizing abuse for what ever gain is easy but when that rolls into life as acceptable and translates into reality no one really is there to hold hands and support during the nightmare

I personally know of such a case where the husband put up a bounty on the wife’s head after putting her thru torturous 60 days before she gathered enough courage to call cops on him .... he did not care about the 1 yr old baby they had just threw her out the door during peak winter in sub zero temperatures without shoes or jackets just bcos she does not conform to his idea of normal

Anyway this show spells another level of toxic altogether

Wonderful post!

For me, Virat is excellent professionally.. He worked on Jagtap case...harassment case...was good. Uska brain sirf isme work karta hai...

Personally, he has not done well till now...Right from the start...Pakhi ko aisa bewakoofi bhara promise dena?? Is this maturity?? And you sort of emotionally blackmail her to marry your brother??? Apne bhai ke saath dhokha jaisa hi hai na??? I can't find this as sacrifice??? It's foolishness..

on what basis does he say: Virat chavan..pakki juban?? thode dinon mein he married Sai after that Bhishm pratigya?? and on what basis does he say he loves his family more than anything??? For his wedding he invited his friend and Pakhi???

His mother has been sufferings and he as the chaheeta beta did not do anything about it? is it because he will not be chaheeta anymore???

For Amay and Aniket case, what sort of jealousy or passiveness is this?? You can tell Sai ki ummed mat rakhna and walk into pakhi's room at night, let her talk all rubbish about your marriage and tana maro to sai all the time...Sai muh kholti hai to Pakhi ki insult ho jaati hai....

Alta incident ne Virat ke character ko bilkul neeche gira diya...Virat did not even listen to Sai's side of story and spoke such harsh words.... When his mom talked about this in the kitchen that night, he was not even sorry for his behavior, bas kaha kya karta Aai sab sai ko galat bol rahe the??? wth???

Aai ko sorry tab bola when Aai was feeding him and again next time fir se unki beizzati kar di...How can a person be a good person when he cannot even respect his mom...and that too a mom like Ashwani!!!!

For the Ladakh trip, wasn't it his duty to question Pakhi and Kaku why they did not want Sai to come along???

For the recent incident, it was inhumane totally....isse neeche kitna girega koi??? and he is responsible for mahila suraksha???? why did the makers have to include this???

He was supportive of Sai's admission...and that was the main clause of the deal...usse back out nahi kar sakta tha...