Adi's perpetual anger and scolding for Imlie - Page 2

Very well said!!

I can not really comment on the Mimickry key scene because I have not reached there yet but one of the things that Gashmeer said in the recent interview, that I had kind of forgotten about Aditya, was that he is very truthful and honest person. So hiding this truth is very very difficult for him but he is forced to do it because sometimes as Nishant said that it’s easier to hide the pain within ourselves rather than share it especially as one knows it’s going to hurt your near and dear ones.

So coming back to your question why the anger and why Imlie and I think that’s the only way he is able to deal with hiding the secret. She is a stark reminder of the lie and she is only one who he can lash out at. But, I think, gradually it has become much more. As he has come to know her, he has realized that she is able to push him out of its comfort zone and for some reason he is not able to refuse her. Take for example the rain scene, she knew exactly what buttons to push to get him to agree. The total helplessness on his face when he told about the same to Malini and how he could not refuse her. The person who is so strong headed, who till date has never given up on anything even if it might cost him his life, gives up in front of an 18 year old was so weird that even Malini antennas are pricked. Hence, IMO, his anger though initially started for his helplessness in getting forced to marry, now it’s more for being forced to hide the secret and his helplessness against his ever increasing care for Imlie. Anger is the one way a person deals when they feel that things are going out of control and Aditya is very much there where he is being bombarded with emotions be it sympathy, care, protectiveness or plain guilt for treating Imlie bad. All this is pushing him out of his comfort zone making him lash out.

I think Aditya is in a very tough situation currently because, as I said previously, in all his decisions till date with regard to his marriage to Imlie, his only consideration was Malini. But now things are different. At that time, he really did not think that feelings might enter their equation and now that they have he does not know what to do with it. It’s not love yet but it’s also not indifference anymore and that there is the crux of the whole problem.

I think this phase is more of him realizing how much his past behavior has hurt Imlie and that she is as much as a victim in this scenario as he was. He is trying to make amends in terms of gift but the line that really struck me and kind of tells us where he is in his mindset, was when he told Nishant, that I will tell the truth only when he is sure that the somebody else is not hurt by his decisin and this time I think with referring to Malini, he was referring more to Imlie. He knows the truth might shatter Malini but will have an devastating impact that on Imlie because frankly than, she will really very alone. Whether will be with her or no, I think we will have to wait for that. 😞

Sorry, if I went tangent, but I only had reference till Monday’s episode and rest came from written updates and interviews. 😊

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Thank you! And I love your analysis here as well! So beautifully written👏....especially all the bits in bold....you've covered it very well!

When the show isn't dragging like hell😆.....this very layering is what makes it so interesting to watch.....cuz all these layers very much exist but the day to day drag and lack of movement makes it listless sometimes.

I hesitate to use the "L" word for Adi just yet😆....but yes, the FRANTIC quality of his worry and emotions for Imlie is a story unto itself......this guy is holding a storm within him when it comes to Imlie.

As you very rightly pointed out, he feels she has turned his life upside down and removed any sense of his control over his own life. Everything he has done since PD has been an act of rebellion against the forces of destiny that have forced him towards Imlie. Yes, he had promised marriage to Malini before the turn of events in PD, but in many ways, his pursuit of wanting to marry Malini after that has been more about wanting to run away from fate than to run towards Malini. Malini is also a shield, just like this constant anger/scolding....all of these have been put in place by Adi to shield him from Imlie. 😆

On one level, it's hilarious to watch as well....this hatta katta aadmi so TERRIFIED of this chit of a girl and what she can do to his heart😆. He's taken it on as a challenge that he will defeat fate since fate DARED to challenge him and his sorted life😆. But it should be a clue enough for him that even MARRYING Malini didn't change his fate.....it still decreed that Imlie remain in his life. Ultimately, he is responsible for dragging Malini into this mess simply cuz he wanted to outrun fate and Imlie.

So it remains hilarious that even after all this mehnat, ultimately he is still fighting a losing battle😆.....even after so much anger/scolding, intimidating of Imlie, her mere presence is enough for him to still be drawn to her, be concerned for her😆.

If we want to call it love, it is a very different form of love.....Gashmeer mentioned in a recent interview that the things that Adi-Imlie have gone through together have created a bond that in many ways is even beyond love. It would be interesting if that thought is capitalized on by the writers whenever they decide to INCH the story forward😆.

Completely agree with everything you've written! Aditya is beyond terrified of what he knows Imlie's capable of doing to him. The funny thing is...everyone in the family thinks that Aditya is scaring and threatening Imlie...but the truth is, it's the reverse - Aditya is scared and threatened by Imlie😆

That's also one of the reasons why he restricted her from entering his bedroom. You can think of it like a metaphor. The bedroom is a person's most personal space...where they spend a good part of their life... Him not allowing Imlie into his bedroom signifies that he doesn't want Imlie to pervade the most personal parts of him. His mind. His heart. He has drawn a strict line...but everyday, that line seems to be fading.

And this certainly is a very different form of love...but also one of the most TRUEST forms of love. When you go through so many difficulties and challenges with one person...that person begins to know the deepest parts of you. You cannot let go of that person no matter how hard you try.

Originally posted by: -Sanjana-

Completely agree with everything you've written! Aditya is beyond terrified of what he knows Imlie's capable of doing to him. The funny thing is...everyone in the family thinks that Aditya is scaring and threatening Imlie...but the truth is, it's the reverse - Aditya is scared and threatened by Imlie😆

That's also one of the reasons why he restricted her from entering his bedroom. You can think of it like a metaphor. The bedroom is a person's most personal space...where they spend a good part of their life... Him not allowing Imlie into his bedroom signifies that he doesn't want Imlie to pervade the most personal parts of him. His mind. His heart. He has drawn a strict line...but everyday, that line seems to be fading.

And this certainly is a very different form of love...but also one of the most TRUEST forms of love. When you go through so many difficulties and challenges with one person...that person begins to know the deepest parts of you. You cannot let go of that person no matter how hard you try.

@bold: So true😆....what hilarious irony and again speaks to the fact that appearances can be deceptive. Adi is all anger and bluster in front of Imlie - anyone observing them would think he is intimidating her. But in actuality, he is using all that anger to cover his own fear and intimidated emotions.

I agree with you on the other two points as well. The restriction on entering his room was definitely a metaphor for him trying to keep her seperated from his personal space....drawing a line, a boundary because he feared that if she crossed it, she would pervade everything. The irony is that she managed to take over his thoughts without taking one step over the threshold into his space. Well in that sense, you start to see why he fears her so😆......she can emotionally unravel him so much from a distance only. What would she do if there were no restrictions on her movement in his life? She is the most unlikely of creatures to manage this feat.....lol that must be part of the reason why he feels even more panicked.....the girl he so determinedly calls a Jhalli....THAT girl is capable of making him lose control of his emotions to such an extent? 😆

Re: form of love....I think time will tell if the writers will live up to the basis of what they've established here with Adi-Imlie. But yes, as of right now this much holds true....Adi-Imlie's relationship has been forged in dire circumstances, in literal thunder and fire in many ways....so it has formed a different level of soulful connection between them....they have literally faced life and death together. Facing crisis together forms a whole other level of connection between two people.....and Adi-Malini never got that even in 7 years of being together.

Originally posted by: pamk06

I think Aditya is in a very tough situation currently because, as I said previously, in all his decisions till date with regard to his marriage to Imlie, his only consideration was Malini. But now things are different. At that time, he really did not think that feelings might enter their equation and now that they have he does not know what to do with it. It’s not love yet but it’s also not indifference anymore and that there is the crux of the whole problem.

I think this phase is more of him realizing how much his past behavior has hurt Imlie and that she is as much as a victim in this scenario as he was. He is trying to make amends in terms of gift but the line that really struck me and kind of tells us where he is in his mindset, was when he told Nishant, that I will tell the truth only when he is sure that the somebody else is not hurt by his decisin and this time I think with referring to Malini, he was referring more to Imlie. He knows the truth might shatter Malini but will have an devastating impact that on Imlie because frankly than, she will really very alone. Whether will be with her or no, I think we will have to wait for that. 😞

Sorry, if I went tangent, but I only had reference till Monday’s episode and rest came from written updates and interviews. 😊

@bold: Oh this will be interesting if they actually finally explore Adi feeling some guilt on how his actions have hurt Imlie while he's been busy only focusing on himself as the victim. I will keep my expectations low though given how the writers like to "pace" things😆.

The thing to keep in mind though....Imlie usually always downplays the level of her hurt, or she says it with a bittersweet smile and tries to move on from the topic. This has made it easy for Adi many times also to try and block out her pain.....Malini on the other hand freely expresses her hurt and demands apologies with a haq....which Adi readily gives her with instant groveling most of the time. Anytime he starts to feel some guilt about Imlie's situation, the writers immediately try to equalize or show Malini as the bigger saint to draw Adi's attention there😆. So let's just keep in mind that the ping-ponging will likely continue to test our patience😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Thankoos🤗😆.....main link karna bhool gayi cuz I just made it on a whim😆

@bold: Both very nice points.....Yes, Malini is actually the perfect excuse in his life right now. He is so artificial around her but he doesn't feel any need to reflect on that because overall his life is chugging along as planned on that front....lol jab tak Malini saamne hai, yeh sochna nahin padega ki tum ab woh Adi nahin rahe😆....that is, until Malini herself points out the obvious about how he's changing😆.

This reminds me of the thought that also struck me again given the aftermath of this rain bike ride.....All of Malini's fussing towards him was like, "main saath hoti toh tumhein bheegne hi nahin deti".....while Imlie is always like, 'open yourself up to the elements and LIVE your life'.....Malini may be thinking she is 'protecting' Adi but she has in a sense held him back for many years.....while Imlie opens him up him towards life by soaking in its elements.....the rain is a metaphor for that. Malini knows Adi dislikes the rain so she helps him escape it.....while Imlie pushes him out of his comfort zone to experience what he's missing out on and she's the only one that succeeds with him😆.

Very intresting point yes .. the way they both see life is very different while malini thinks quick aborting of anything exciting is the way .For imlie it is the opposite she doesn't let him get away with experiencing the new things she wants him experience life on a ground level quite literally 😆 with her ground ka matti ka feel lelo babusahib 😆 it also comes from the extreme opposite way they are brought up and it reflects in these moments.. and adi has started to enjoy these little adventures now.. sure he doesn't like rain but he didn't even complain this time as such and actually enjoyed it the other day too he was like thanks to jhalli I get to come home enjoy it and then yesterday too he was like I was better off with her 😆

malini does get rattled and says it ke adi badal raha hai but adi still refuses to.ponder over it or pay much heed so he ignores all that amd switch the topic usually

Re: the age difference....yes, that is absolutely a notable element in their dynamic. He uses it to his advantage that she's very young and so he scolds her like a child to intimidate her.....and also, as you said, probably to put her off from himself😆....so that she doesn't entertain any teenage fantasies of love😆.....but iske saare efforts fail cuz he's dealing with a special namoona😆. Ab toh Imlie ko daant mein bhi fikar dikh gayi hai😆.....I won't say she doesn't get intimidated by him anymore....she does jump a bit when he scolds her even now....but ultimately her Imlie-ness prevails and she handles anything he throws her way.....lol. And yeh baat bhi hai that even if he thinks usko daant ke, daraa ke khud se door kar lega, agar woh kahin door chali jaati hai toh aajkal bechaini bhi ise hi hoti hai😆.....confused aatma.

Wohi toh jhalla toh khud bhi hai and I personally think that plays a huge role in why malini just shakes everything off itna easily too caz for her she is just a kid and usse kya insecure hona 😆 even if she feels upset over adi paying attention to Imlie I guess Imlie thodi badi hoti toh isko zyada jaldi insecurity hoti

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Now a lot has happened in the time since....these two have gone through many highs and lows together....Adi has moved past the initial level of mistrust and anger at Imlie, and Imlie has gotten used to her "existence" at Tripathi house along with Adi's brand of anger and scolding.

Both of them are very much aware that Adi's constant scolding and anger towards her is hurtful and it's not like it's hidden from Adi how it hurts Imlie but this basic pattern doesn't change....he has to scold her out of both anger and worry. On one hand, he has acknowledged that this isn't her fault either and she doesn't deserve all this, but on the other hand he also can't seem to help himself from continuing to be hurtful to her this way. He claims it's all cuz of his worry about the truth coming out inadvertently but that excuse doesn't hold up that much anymore.

Which then brings me to the basic question....Why, Adi? Your worry about the truth coming out is on one side....but what exactly makes you think that constantly scolding Imlie is fine? Is it because she is so much younger than you that you feel it gives you leeway to play the "Main badaa hoon" card?

Absolutely loved catching up on and reading all your posts guys. What a great question you've posed for discussion @AreYaar. 😊

I think Gashmeer put it perfectly when he said that when 2 people get through a crisis together, they form a connection greater than love.👏 Ever since they got back from PD, it's clear that Adi's anger/scolding of Imlie has taken on a different hue. Others have already caught onto that change including Imlie herself. Like you said...Adi's scolding has become a pattern. It's always been an intrinsic part of Adilie's relationship and writers are staying true to that whilst managing to show the more positive change in Adi's emotions towards Imlie. There's no longer any blame, anger or intent to hurt Imlie that even she can't help but smile in the middle of his daant. Which is why I found it funny when the Tripathi's kept saying Imlie is intimidated/fearful of Adi in the latest episode. So much has happened between Adilie since those memories they have of Adi treating her badly. If only they knew eh? 😉

Imlie definitely feared Adi's scolding in the past but that dissipated after their "suhaag raat" confrontation; when he pushed her to her limit; when she finally stopped just silently absorbing every disparaging insult/accusation he threw at her and let him know he wasn't the only victim. Since then, she does not hesitated to tell him exactly what she thinks of him. She's no longer jumpy around him and even continously brings up to his face that he's guilty of constantly scolding her to the point where it's become water off her back. All of this was beautifully highlighted in the final scene of the recent epi. Adi was worried that she was crying because he'd hurt her by saying he didn't want to see her face even if he had already emphasised that this was in the PAST.

Whereas pre-pagdandiya Adi would have used every little misstep Imlie made as ammunition to blame her for wanting the secret of their marriage to come out. That last scene was just infused with the deep care they both have developed for each other. Imlie was upset that he got scolded by his family and he was worried that he'd hurt her again. He comforted her, agreed with her when she said she hadn't intended anything bad and even willed her to stop being hard on herself for this slip of the tongue because the truth is something that cannot be hidden. I was just like "Wow! This is coming from the same guy who once accused this girl of deliberately leaving her mangalsutra behind for Malini to find." I just loved everything he said to her. The best part being the fact that he said "WE can just try as best we can that when the truth is revealed, no one should be pained in that. Noone's heart is hurt. We are failing in this attempt time and time again." This was beautiful for two reasons: a) He said something similar to Nishant and I agree with those who said that Imlie is definitely included in his list of people he doesn't want to see hurt when the truth is revealed and b) He no longer sees Imlie as separate from him in this situation. They're now a team, sharing the heavy burden and pain caused by this secret and the lies that keep piling up. ❤️

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Oh this will be interesting if they actually finally explore Adi feeling some guilt on how his actions have hurt Imlie while he's been busy only focusing on himself as the victim. I will keep my expectations low though given how the writers like to "pace" things😆.

The thing to keep in mind though....Imlie usually always downplays the level of her hurt, or she says it with a bittersweet smile and tries to move on from the topic. This has made it easy for Adi many times also to try and block out her pain.....Malini on the other hand freely expresses her hurt and demands apologies with a haq....which Adi readily gives her with instant groveling most of the time. Anytime he starts to feel some guilt about Imlie's situation, the writers immediately try to equalize or show Malini as the bigger saint to draw Adi's attention there😆. So let's just keep in mind that the ping-ponging will likely continue to test our patience😆

I think her hurt now stems solely from his inability to acknowledge her as his wife than the scolding. She's used to the scolding but she can't help but feel a pang everytime he says/does something to show he doesn't see her as his wife. Like that moment when he instantly shot down Nishant calling her "bhabhi". Ouch 💔

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This reminds me of the thought that also struck me again given the aftermath of this rain bike ride.....All of Malini's fussing towards him was like, "main saath hoti toh tumhein bheegne hi nahin deti".....while Imlie is always like, 'open yourself up to the elements and LIVE your life'.....Malini may be thinking she is 'protecting' Adi but she has in a sense held him back for many years.....while Imlie opens him up him towards life by soaking in its elements.....the rain is a metaphor for that. Malini knows Adi dislikes the rain so she helps him escape it.....while Imlie pushes him out of his comfort zone to experience what he's missing out on and she's the only one that succeeds with him😆.

Re: the age difference....yes, that is absolutely a notable element in their dynamic. He uses it to his advantage that she's very young and so he scolds her like a child to intimidate her.....and also, as you said, probably to put her off from himself😆....so that she doesn't entertain any teenage fantasies of love😆.....but iske saare efforts fail cuz he's dealing with a special namoona😆. Ab toh Imlie ko daant mein bhi fikar dikh gayi hai😆.....I won't say she doesn't get intimidated by him anymore....she does jump a bit when he scolds her even now....but ultimately her Imlie-ness prevails and she handles anything he throws her way.....lol. And yeh baat bhi hai that even if he thinks usko daant ke, daraa ke khud se door kar lega, agar woh kahin door chali jaati hai toh aajkal bechaini bhi ise hi hoti hai😆.....confused aatma.

This! 👏

I just loved his reflex response to that..."achha hua aap humare saath nahi thi" 🤣

Then he rushed to ammend that with a cheesy line that she would have been ill too. So does that mean you don't mind if Imlie's the one who fell ill instead "Mr Tripathi"? You really showed that by saying you'd have given your raincoat to her and following that up with letting her drink from your glass.😆

"Confused aatma" is putting it mildly. 🤣

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Oh this will be interesting if they actually finally explore Adi feeling some guilt on how his actions have hurt Imlie while he's been busy only focusing on himself as the victim. I will keep my expectations low though given how the writers like to "pace" things😆.

The thing to keep in mind though....Imlie usually always downplays the level of her hurt, or she says it with a bittersweet smile and tries to move on from the topic. This has made it easy for Adi many times also to try and block out her pain.....Malini on the other hand freely expresses her hurt and demands apologies with a haq....which Adi readily gives her with instant groveling most of the time. Anytime he starts to feel some guilt about Imlie's situation, the writers immediately try to equalize or show Malini as the bigger saint to draw Adi's attention there😆. So let's just keep in mind that the ping-ponging will likely continue to test our patience😆

Yes after last time I have kept my expectation pretty low but I kind of feel that though snail pace the writers are delivering. I kind of feel that they are going in the right direction but again slow which is needed. Like everybody is asking for the college track or Imlie to make a stand but looking at her situation now, how can she. She cannot leave tripathis house because she has no where to go, she is not city savvy that she can just go and start making a living for herself, her relationship with T’s nor Aditya is not that point where she can request. Basically at this point she is at their mercy.

Hence I feel that it’s important for Aditya to acknowledge the fact that she is victim too and taking responsibility does not mean only providing food and shelter. For that he needs to first see the mirror of things that he has done wrong to her as part of his anger toward circumstance or destiny. I think this is this track where he is realizing that either through which he thinks is wrong and imlie pointing out that you did the same. Nishan/sundar might also play a role here in making him realize her importance in his life and hopefully at the end, it will push Aditya to take steps so that Imlie get her due justice.

This is what I am seeing but let’s see if the writers follow through or do a a googly again 😆

Wah, kya analysis hain, AY!! Loved it!! ❤️