Epi 187: Give and Take - Page 5

Originally posted by: Barbiebarbie11

Well I never wanted any sort of third angle for riansh😒

Though I badly want an obsessive Vansh but they're giving us obsessive kabir that too nasty one

Maybe the day Kabir obsession will be revealed we might see Vansh possessiveness for her. Also if the track leading to separation where Vansh taking the guilty trip then yes that's also we can see his possessiveness side.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

Welcome dear :)

Yup, I know where that is coming from.

It's time Vansh handles it. But then it depends on whether Ishani will put her blame game before Vansh or she secretly tries to harm Ridhima considering her brother picked Ridhima over her.

If she can place before him, then he might come up with something, then if playing from behind then it might not be easy for him to pinpoint until he sees that

Maybe here we can ask Kabir to bring Ishani into the limelight where Vansh question her and in a fit of anger she herself reveals what she did with Ridhima parents but my doubt is - in this process, will Ridhima tell the truth of her pregnancy to Vansh or she will hie? I just want at least Sia to know the truth. Somone should know about her condition other than Kabir.

Yessss at least sia needs to know

Let's see what makers have in store

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

I dont know about Ishani. I dont know Why makers are so oblivious of trp. But its an itv trend that female leads are blamed for anything and everything. If Vansh will b unaware of pregnancy the family too will b oblivious. Ishani being typically Ishani may in future try to harm her. Trp ki jankari Makers ko zyada pata hai.Par chinta hum karte hai. I am tired of makers ignorance about trp.

I agree on the fact that yes ITV leads get blamed for everything and it will happen with Ridhima too. And I agree why the makers not caring about the TRP. I mean how many more weeks they want to test and see which track will work and which doesn't when they clearly by now have an idea what can work and which way.

TRP we are worried because already 2nd alert is given and if TRP doesn't change then maybe in a month or so we might lose it.

This week TRP is about how Vansh plot against Kabir so let's see if this week works or not.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

See, smart Vansh can be introduced at any time. They just need to change a little that he knows what Kabir is doing and all. Then yes they can make it. Problem is continuing it. It cannot be like Vansh as mastermind at the last moment, show he is aware, show that. Make sure to say both are playing hidden games with each other.

Keep us on the edge but that is missing. Because every week they are coming with new plot and continuity is missing in that plot.

At this time I know even actors are worried and considering the actors playing Sia, Ishani, Aryan, Angre are very new. They debuted so they need this show.

Rrahul is also but he did Raja Beta and he knows how TV works while both Vishal and Helly did a lot of work to understand how this whole TRP game works.

But it's makers need to take the step.

This time they picked a very good sensitive topic but the execution is bad. If again they come up with kitchen and house politics - for this story - people won't like it. Mostly the twitter cannot take Ridhima being a scapegoat again for nothing.

So better come up with some unexpected twist than regular ones.

See Abby I know many people here would found me negative and always ranting and I seriously have no problem becoz I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion regarding me and regarding show and in the same way I am also entitled to my opinion and I also don't believe in keeping hard feeling if someone even say this on my face and thats why I never really explained me also....try to be sarcastic and all but seriously today I want to say something...look I have never watched any itv serial and by this I never meant that I don't even know who is prerna and all the shows becoz after all I have grown up in India so its natural for me to know about itv serials so I just mocked them,their scenes I never let my brain to accept these things and than lockdown and being free I came across VRS character and seriously I felt I went into a novel phase such a unique character he was shown to be so I fell for that character even without knowing genre about 1st season of the show and any other leads or even story so started watching it just pure out of curiosity and with each passing episode I got attatched to character even more, again I will say not story not any other character,If that VRS character exist I will see whatever they show me and never complains but the problem is that after episode 52 I just waited first patiently for him to return considering it as a phase and over time with frustration which seen here in my comments...viva track started I thought finally my wait paid off but they scrapped it in worst way possible,than I was excited for revenge track and seriously hold on to the serial but over time it just become unbearable,as a girl I felt wrong all that begging of riddhima but the biggest trouble I was having again VRS character bringing other girl introducing her as wife in front of whole world was out of question for his character how it shown to be ,so we can say here again my liking for only his character was the reason more than anything else than again they started parents track I was excited to see his obsession to see him taking down kabir but the episodes I watched were again disappointment so I left it,he came to know coincidentally and I was like WTH...

Ok they introduced him as mafia so I got happy ki okay now the vansh I saw that will return but alas now how could I be telly with this person named as vansh,I don't know him at all,and when I could not felt any connection with the character which is the only reason for me watching this seeial,the same very character frustrates me,how would I handle it and say ki okay wait its good and all,I care about story about progression but that doesn't mean I will totally forget the character I loved ,it always frustrates me watching him so clueless on tv screen and with each passing episode my fear that he doesn't know anything getting stronger becoz he definetely will not allow her sister to be harmed or him get shot if he had planned it or in the first if he had a plan also.

I am sorry for writing such a huge post in your thread...I just tried to tell why I am not haply becoz for me first comes charcter of VRS....i just now hope that phase of first 52nd episodes could go longer but let it be...

Originally posted by: Roudy1

Yessss at least sia needs to know

Let's see what makers have in store

One person should be confident of Ridhima and that can be Sia only. At least if something goes wrong, maybe she will try to work things.

yup, we can wait and see what they are planning and nothing else.

I am not certain of The track. But i can ensure u three things

When Vansh will knew of her pregnancy it will b either too late or things will go out of the hands.

Riddhima will hide her pregnancy. Reason may b whatsoever.

One mystery will come out by Valentine Day (12-15) and the other will b by 23d feb completing 200 episode.

I really want Ishani to harm R's baby, but openly and in a way that everyone knows. And then R not taking it lightly, but asking for justice from V. I don't want Vansh to get off the hook so easily by R. He was threatening the doctor with his gun when it came to his sister, what will he do when it's his wife in pain and his beloved sister is the culprit? I want him to choose his priority once and for all.

Originally posted by: Nephy

See Abby I know many people here would found me negative and always ranting and I seriously have no problem becoz I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion regarding me and regarding show and in the same way I am also entitled to my opinion and I also don't believe in keeping hard feeling if someone even say this on my face and thats why I never really explained me also....try to be sarcastic and all but seriously today I want to say something...look I have never watched any itv serial and by this I never meant that I don't even know who is prerna and all the shows becoz after all I have grown up in India so its natural for me to know about itv serials so I just mocked them,their scenes I never let my brain to accept these things and than lockdown and being free I came across VRS character and seriously I felt I went into a novel phase such a unique character he was shown to be so I fell for that character even without knowing genre about 1st season of the show and any other leads or even story so started watching it just pure out of curiosity and with each passing episode I got attatched to character even more, again I will say not story not any other character,If that VRS character exist I will see whatever they show me and never complains but the problem is that after episode 52 I just waited first patiently for him to return considering it as a phase and over time with frustration which seen here in my comments...viva track started I thought finally my wait paid off but they scrapped it in worst way possible,than I was excited for revenge track and seriously hold on to the serial but over time it just become unbearable,as a girl I felt wrong all that begging of riddhima but the biggest trouble I was having again VRS character bringing other girl introducing her as wife in front of whole world was out of question for his character how it shown to be ,so we can say here again my liking for only his character was the reason more than anything else than again they started parents track I was excited to see his obsession to see him taking down kabir but the episodes I watched were again disappointment so I left it,he came to know coincidentally and I was like WTH...

Ok they introduced him as mafia so I got happy ki okay now the vansh I saw that will return but alas now how could I be telly with this person named as vansh,I don't know him at all,and when I could not felt any connection with the character which is the only reason for me watching this seeial,the same very character frustrates me,how would I handle it and say ki okay wait its good and all,I care about story about progression but that doesn't mean I will totally forget the character I loved ,it always frustrates me watching him so clueless on tv screen and with each passing episode my fear that he doesn't know anything getting stronger becoz he definetely will not allow her sister to be harmed or him get shot if he had planned it or in the first if he had a plan also.

I am sorry for writing such a huge post in your thread...I just tried to tell why I am not haply becoz for me first comes charcter of VRS....i just now hope that phase of first 52nd episodes could go longer but let it be...

I understand whole your frustration and we want to see the old VR back. We want the Vansh who can be soft with his wife but the VR who said will kill his own brother if he double-crosses him. I understand your emotions as the majority want the same. This Vansh and the VR is totally new for us to digest also.

But here we are not able to see him. The makers made me him a clueless person is hitting every nerve of us and though after saying so many times and shown through TRP but yet they showing ignorance to the TRP - don't know. They need to tell us why we are not getting it.

Also, they have the track in their hands and right now also they have raised such a sensitive issue to cover us. However, the completely agree the execution is failed and due to which we are unable to connect with another. Also, they are thinking romance works but nope - it doesn't. To some extent, it might but then need to balance the thrill and somewhere the thrilling content and feeling is also a miss.

So they need to close the loopholes of these which they are not certainly making us lose patience. I can only say is let's wait and see. Give them one more chance and see what is that they are giving us even after giving them the chance.

If possible, write a letter to the channel and see what they will do it. Maybe that might work. Daily send one email and see whether it works or not?

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

I am not certain of The track. But i can ensure u three things

When Vansh will knew of her pregnancy it will b either too late or things will go out of the hands.

Riddhima will hide her pregnancy. Reason may b whatsoever.

One mystery will come out by Valentine Day (12-15) and the other will b by 23d feb completing 200 episode.

You know when you give numbers, I just go with it and it works.

I too feel the same, the day he learns the truth is in the worst way or it can be such that he learns and does something and as you said by the time he realizes things work out and makes me the killer of his own son. Well can say Kabir might have done something with this.

Ridhima should say to Sia at least but then I too feel the same. The reason we need to see.

Mystery can be her parents for now. So let's see how it goes and 200th episode something major. I feel separation is hitting then let Vansh take a guilt trip this time.

Originally posted by: Abhyudaya

The episode starts with everyone is singing a happy birthday song for Ishani while she cuts the cake feeds everyone. Aryan and Angre bring Ridhima and Ishani on the stage while they all dance. So happy seeing Ishani and Ridhima dancing on one stage but as know what happens next... happy moments are going to turn so sad now soon.

Vansh is happy to see everyone happy with each other while Ishani drags Kabir also and Kabir is standing Ridhima and enjoying her hair. What's with Kabir and her hair. VR I know you wore glasses but how come you unable to see the way Kabir looking at your wife? Aisa bhi kya pehna hein tune? Ridhima comes and dances with Vansh. The way they were dancing reminded me of the 50th episode. I mean from being petrified in his hands to seeking comfort and he spying to giving his heart completely to her, making sure to remove all negative thoughts, this step takes my heart for the growth as a couple.

Aww, both Vansh and Ridhima dancing happily while Kabir standing and one can say he is not happy and burning in jealous. The unknown man is pointing the gun at Vansh and his whole family comes to join their dance. Vansh too dancing with everyone now. Aryan raise the champagne. My only question is when Vansh knows Chang people might harm him, why to have a party in the first place? Can't it be like a normal function within the house? Bade Bade log hein yaar ajeeb shauk hein inka...

All are happily dancing while finally all wishes Ishani again Sia says let's stand for the family portrait. The unknown man gets a call and the man says time is taking but I'll make sure we get done with the work. Somewhere I feel this man belongs to Kabir, not Chang. Everyone stands for the portrait, where the killer points out at Vansh and Ridhima.

While Kabir stands out, Ishani calls Kabir to be part of the family portrait while Vansh and Ridhima are shocked to listen to her plea. While Ishani says you saved Vansh so you can need to be part of the picture. Vansh supports her. Dude - what happened to you? Did you got hurt in your head or what? Take an MRI scan of the head - please. Kabir standing beside Vansh while killer points at Vansh. At the same time, Ridhima feels dizzy and Vansh catches her. Vansh asks are you fine? The family portrait is looking like Faber-Castell marker pens collection - all different shades of colours.

And Killer releases the needle. Vansh who sees the needle covers up Ridhima and they both fall while Ishani gets hit by it. Oh, God! Now need to see what happens with this? I hope no miscarriage for her. All are shocked to her getting hurt. Vansh shouts Ishani and he sees the killer. Vansh tries to catch him but Kabir stops him and says you need to be here and I will catch him. Vansh says the killer shouldn't leave at all. Why I do I feel strongly that man belongs to Kabir.

Dadi and all are worried about Ishani while Vansh says he will put the dart and nothing happened to her. Vansh takes it out and Ishani is damn pain. Angre is shocked. Do something Angre.. how come you can stand like that? Ridhima calls the doctor while both Aryan and Kabir are running behind the killer. Aryan loses him the killer while Kabir hits him.

Kabir say how come you can enter into the house of a police officer? Kabir hits the man and says how could think of killing Ridhima? Oh god, I think you also might have got hit in the warehouse, Bhai Saab, you tried to kill her many times, you shot her also. Now, what is this? Retrograde amnesia hein kya tumhe? Okay, his actions say he doesn't know him and maybe the person belongs to Chang only.

But at least I know one thing, if someone from the VR mansion now tries to hurt her, he is going to make them pay. Kabir hits the man and says how could you try to kill her like that? The killer is bleeding while Kabir says if Ridhima dies even I would have been dead --- ye kya hain? On a serious note, I'm unable to connect with this obsession. Something is missing, don't know why able to feel anything for it rather than creepy feelings. Kabir says how could you thought you would live, and he brings the stone to harm him while Aryan comes and stop Kabir. Aryan says we cannot kill him and think. Kabir says sorry and he says he will handle it. Aryan asks are you sure? Kabir says I'm a policeman and I will handle it but you go first to Ishani.

Ishani is in the room and Ridhima says please keep Ishani in consciousness state and if not she will be in danger. Vansh shouts where is Ishani while doctor comes. Vansh warns the doctor and says neither Ishani nor her child shouldn't get hurt. The doctor says her condition is critical and we need to do surgery. VR Mansion ya hospital?

Vansh shoots the mirror - symbolically he is shooting for himself for unable to save his sister. We can understand your emotions Vansh. But you are not at fault. Ridhima comes and sees what he has done and says you are not wrong at all. Vansh says if something happens to Ishani and her baby then it's my mistake only. He continues someone has cheated me with the deal and when the enemy has attacked me, my sister got hurt. He says she is pregnant and I'm unable to save her.

Vansh says Chang has enmity with me if he would have attacked me then I would leave him but now, I won't. The way he revealed his enmity is making my doubts stronger that Ridhima knows his illegal business and accepted it somewhere. Vansh takes some more bullets and says I won't leave him while Ridhima tries to stop him and says calm down.

Ridhima says now Ishani is danger and why are you thinking about all these things? Vansh shouts on her and says my family is in danger and he attacked it. Now, I won't leave him. Well, I would like to see if someone from your family attacks Ridhima - will it be the same reaction, Vansh? I'm counting to see the same, but no hopes. Vansh says I will search and kill him. Ridhima has tears in her eyes and seeing it Vansh calms down and sees how strongly he is handling her. He removes his hand and sees the print of his fingers on her hands. He says sorry and kisses it. This man can calm down only by Ridhima's love and tears. She is the only healer in the world who can heal him.

Ridhima says it's okay and asks him to calm down. She says Ishani is the priority now and you have got 1000 reasons tomorrow to meet with Chang but once Ishani wakes up she will ask about you. She needs you at this moment. He drops at the gun and she sees it. Ridhima says doctors are treating her and she and her baby will be fine. Aryan comes and says the doctor wants to speak with him

The doctor says Ishani is in the critical stage at this time and she lost so much blood. At this moment she is a lifeless condition. All are shocked mostly Vansh and Ridhima. Angre is broken completely. The doctor says they cannot shift to the hospital also. He says Ishani have very fewer chances to live. Vansh tries to hit the doctor but Kabir catches the collar of the doctor. So much of the emotional drama he is doing to get near Ridhima.

Kabir throttles the neck of the doctor and says make sure you save her and the baby if not I don't know what I will do with you. Bus kar Kabir - I'm unable to see this love of yours yaar! Bus kar tu, please. Kabir says she is my sister and our world. Vansh looks at him emotionally shocked when he says that. Vansh - please, think like VR. I hope all this would be your observing what Kabir wants but not being an emotional man - Okay! I hope at the end you turn the game saying you know what exactly he is playing but want to see to what extent he is playing. Don't disappoint us okay. Also, why didn't you asked about that person - ask him, dude? I still feel the person if from Kabir side.

Ridhima is completely in tears and Kabir says if something happens to any one of them, you will die for sure. The doctor says listen to tome. Aryan calms down. Vansh says I'm sorry from Kabir side and says whatever you want I will give you. Save her. Doctors go into the room. Chanchal is worried for Ishani. Ridhima says Bappa will save us this time and she goes to Bappa to pray while she is feeling dizzy. Kabir catches her while she is going to fall. Kabir is happy that finally, Ridhima is in his hands. The expressions in his eyes speak he is enjoying her being in his arms than she is feeling dizzy. Why makers are showing whatever Kabir wants will happen. He said one day she will be in my arms - and they made it happen like this. Wah! makers - yuck.

Ridhima feels nauseousness and finally comes out of his arms. Kabir says please take care of yourself. Ridhima says I'm here to pray for Ishani. While Ridhima walks away, Kabir kisses his own hands. Seriously dude - eat them, Okay eat those fingers and why don't you eat yourself only? We will be also happy.

Kabir is feeling those hands on his lips and remembers again how she fell in his arms. Kabir feels even God is helping him in his love and which is why she fell in his arms. Ridhima sits for prayer and feels why she is feeling like this. She should tell Vansh or not? And decides not to say because Vansh be will stress more about this and she will reveal once Ishani is fine. Okay, same regular ITV content, the heroine doesn't want to say to the husband when he is worried about something else. Understandable her emotions, not blaming but don't take too much of time, Ridhima.

Ridhima lits the diya and prays for her. Bappa and Matarani - Ridhima says until now I have only prayed for her and Vansh and for the first time I'm asking to save Ishani's life and her baby. Please keep them safe. If anything happens to them, Vansh will break. Ridhima says why this is happening with her family and says I beg you guys please save both of them. Yes, Bappa - please save them both of them, please. We also don't want Ridhima to go emotional torture if something happens with Ishani. Please Bappa.

Ridhima says please save them - Ishani and her child and bows before the god. While Diya goes off and she is shocked to see it. At the same time, Dadi says No. Doctor says we tried hard enough but as the poison spread through her body, we were unable to safe both. So we saved Ishani but couldn't save the baby. All are shocked and Angre is completely broken while Vansh in tears. Oh, God! So as expected miscarriage has happened. Now I feel 99.9% the track goes where Aryan might instigate how Vansh saved Ridhima and Ishani hating Ridhima more than before and 1% chances to see something unexpected twists from makers of her being in guilt track.

Doctors say we are glad we saved Ishani. Vansh remembers the promise he gave Ishani about her and the baby. He say once Ishani comes into consciousness she will ask him about his promise? What answer I will give him? Doctor says please be strong and make sure you handle Ishani who lost her baby. I don't think Ridhima at this moment will tell Vansh about the pregnancy..... if even she knows.

Vansh says to himself I cannot face her. Ridhima says I understand you but at this moment she needs you most and you need to handle her at this moment. Vansh enters into Ishani's room while Ridhima tries to go with him, she feels nauseous. Only Kabir sees this because - he doesn't have any other work than watching Ridhima.

Vansh enters into the room while Ishani opens her eyes and says Bhai. Ishani says someone needs to learn how to keep their promise and you made sure to save us both. Vansh looks at her and remembers the moment where he shared the baby names with her. Ishani tries to get up while she asks why are you crying? What happened? My baby is safe, right?

Ridhima is passing through the rooms while she listens to the doctor who declares someone pregnant listening to the symptoms on the phone. Ridhima feels she is also having the same symptoms and doubts about whether she is pregnant? Ishani asks what happened? Why are you not saying anything? My baby is fine right? Vansh says I'm sorry. I couldn't keep the promise and save your child. Ishani cries while Ridhima feels she is pregnant.

P:S - Considering 8-10th is the promo where Ridhima decides to say Vansh is going to be a father, I think she might not consider the condition.

Also, we might see Ishani hating more considering her brother chooses to save her rather than Ishani. But I think whether she might get or not I feel justice served from God side. Ridhima parents = her child. She lost her childhood while Ishani lost her child.

Upcoming track let's see how it goes, I'm not at in-state to speculate as every week they are bringing new plots to see which works. So hoping only one thing - Vansh please be the Vansh whom they introduced and let's see how this goes. Separation way or handling his house and relationships once again.

Finally one line, God knows how to give and take. He took one child and presented with another. But will the child able to live? or will Ridhima also undergo miscarriage due to the villains in the house?

The episode seems interesting to me. The entire track is very interesting but I am afraid that the fans are losing hope and interest and only Vansh the mastemind can save it. They still have time to shape up the show till they get a new show.So makers must wrap it up Vansh being the Mastermind. Do u think A separation can work in favour of it?