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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jane_austen

So he is aware of his growing feelings towards Sai, his needs, his jealousy but his actions are all over the place? He is not addressing his insecurities, nor taking a step forward in the relationship due to fear of rejection nor realizing that his vaada is the biggest hurdle between them. Instead when he is overpowered with these needy feelings or jealousy, he starts to direct that frustration on Sai?


yep, seems like it. according to me, he is just pretending to not know anything as an IPS officer cant be that dumb at all.

whenever people ask any questions related to this stuff, mainly pakhi and sai mostly he hides behind few common phrases that he uses all the time

'main samja nay' , 'yeh tum kya bol rai ho' , 'yeh meri zimmedaari hai' , 'main sirf apna farz nibharaha hoon'.

and sometimes he gets caught by his emotions and forgets to pretend that asli diaouges bahaar aati hai

'main tumhara pati hoon' , 'dinner karo mere saath' , 'tum meri baat nay maanogi?' , 'tumhaari smile kaafi sundar hai' , 'tumhare alta lagaye hume pair kaafi sundar llag rahe hai' , 'mera haath pakdo' 'kapde teek se nay rakhe tumne' 'maine bhi subah se haawa khaya hai, bahut tasty tha' recent highlight 'tum aur kisise pyaar nay karti? mujse bhi nay?'


apni zimmedaari se kaun aise baatein karta hai aur sawaal poochta hai? direct flirting kar raha hai banda and usse pata bhi nay??🤪


ya tho he ran away from mental asylum or he is soo dumb or he is pretending to not see, listen or observe anything.

Edited by Chandu_500 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#32

Awesome analysis Janki, apt I must say. Well i did see the episode as well. But would need some time to come back with comments and will try to do so today.


If i dont connect the 2 episodes, todays episode was actually nice. According to me Virat still does not Know Sai's stand for him and that's why he sways and cannot control his emotions (still cant defend him for yesterday though).

I would like to hear what he answers Vahini, though his body language has given it away and i think even Vahini knows it as well.

The terrace sequence reminded me of the previous terrace sequence (post marriage wala), huge contrast in those two scenes. And that defines Virat's feelings, can see it in his body language.

I know many did not want this scene (nether did I) but at times these scenes are necessary, we can actually draw a parallel.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chandu_500


yep, seems like it. according to me, he is just pretending to not know anything as an IPS officer cant be that dumb at all.

whenever people ask any questions related to this stuff, mainly pakhi and sai mostly he hides behind few common phrases that he uses all the time

'main samja nay' , 'yeh tum kya bol rai ho' , 'yeh meri zimmedaari hai' , 'main sirf apna farz nibharaha hoon'.

and sometimes he gets caught by his emotions and forgets to pretend that asli diaouges bahaar aati hai

'main tumhara pati hoon' , 'dinner karo mere saath' , 'tum meri baat nay maanogi?' , 'tumhaari smile kaafi sundar hai' , 'tumhare alta lagaye hume pair kaafi sundar llag rahe hai' , 'mera haath pakdo' 'kapde teek se nay rakhe tumne' 'maine bhi subah se haawa khaya hai, bahut tasty tha' recent highlight 'tum aur kisise pyaar nay karti? mujse bhi nay?'


apni zimmedaari se kaun aise baatein karta hai aur sawaal poochta hai? direct flirting kar raha hai banda and usse pata bhi nay??🤪


ya tho he ran away from mental asylum or he is soo dumb or he is pretending to not see, listen or observe anything.


The Zimmedari is long gone, he has accepted her as his wife "Emotionally" - Love is still developing, feelings are there but the emotional bond is growing from his side.

His stance during the Pooja sequence gave it all away. He did not seem confused about the relationship, Love ka toh baba ACP jane (his definition of love i toh don't understand).

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Posted: 4 years ago
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It feels like such an affirmation to read this review of yours because I have honestly been feeling very jaded by the way Virat has been behaving since quite a while. I think it's been a lot of things but his jealousy way back set things into motion I guess. I have always felt jealousy arises from this base instinct to want to possess your partner and have ownership of them. And while it may be normal to feel once in a while, its different here. It feels like he wants to own her but that's it. Like it's an extension of his authority over her. I guess it feels like his desire runs skin deep not soul deep. Also that whole conversation about feed him when he is hungry sounded like such a man child thing! At the end of the day, I don't understand how Virat or rest of the obsequious family have all these expectations of her. Apologies for what sounds like a mad angry rant but the episodes nowadays feel very toxic and it feels like the writers wriggle out by portraying Sai as defiant. Which now they seem to want to tone down in the name of love. Sigh. I guess I need to take a breather for awhile.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Obviously, it was a calm episode -- setting the mood for a weekend episode of navra Baiko, hopefully. But, honestly, i am amazed at how easily the whole 'wo akeli kaise rahegi' has slipped by. All it took was Ashwini's, "Usne Virat ke liye lagaya... Jab Maine usse Kaha hi suhaag ko apshagun ho Sakta hai, wo pareshaan ho gayi .." for ACP Chavan to throw one dirty look at the family and walk away.

But what about the words you spoke, Chavan Saheb? They definitely cannot be taken back nor can one ignore the fact that you've set base for many more such reactions to follow.

So many alta-ernating personalities this man! You were just baying for another red(blood) 20 seconds before saree mein sareee parag saree entry happened! Dil is still in sadma mode with sad music playing in the background. Kuch toh aur boldeta....also super worried he's so fickle ki he'll start with not being on her side as his base position (*cue jag soona soona lage*)


Honestly, am not sure if the Precap is the exact scene but Sai is definitely not going to give him any pleasing answer to the question. And, he definitely is not in the mood to hear anything from her that reinforces the 'distance' between them.

Eschooose me, why would she pyaar you? Is she a mind reader to see what your shift of your emotions (which frankly nobody understand....Ghalib bhi kuch naya likhde for your pingpong mind)


If it weren't, he would have become a laal gubbara again for sure <<<---- Major worry...if she's not pati ki pyaari, he'll be mohe rang do laal?

The scene would have been better had Virat also had some value addition to his monologue about his own feeling for her-- it was all about being plain smitten and the awareness of Aniket being around... To me, his attraction would continue to lack depth <--- sachhi muchhhhi....he had so chances today to introspect, on his behaviour...his choice of words, his actions and try and join some doubts. He's not really clear about himself, but wants her to confess if she's my dil goes hmmm?


In their private space, she goes back to 'ye Mera Ghar Nahi hai aur na hi Mera parivaar...' it isn't a taunt. It is how she's made to feel and she will continue feeling that way until he shows her through words and actions the "commitment" or "permanence" he seeks from the deal marriage. Her "naukron wale kaam" and "Kisi ke Ghar me rehna hai toh kaam toh Karna padega" was so apt. I am glad she mentioned this for I often think of it that way--- This to me was the most powerful moment of the day! This is exactly what is happening in that house and Virat is really dumb if he sees it as anything else. Additionally his exasperation ke badle again i would have introspected on her words, her hurt and what she goes to.

Does he realise that his oscillation from one team to another -- PENDULUM


I don't think intimacy exists between these two. Initially when they had their non verbal comms, their own language...I'd think they've got a level of comfort that nobody else has, because they are the only two who are in the situation that they are in. Now unfortunately I'm taking this back....I don't think they are a unit (i Blame the writing!)....understanding, trust, comfort all builds up to intimacy [because there is the possibility of intimacy in all relationships, but with different meanings] ! Love encompasses all of these plus attraction, lust which then brings in the other dimensions.


And since there was a pitstop at the terrace before serving dinner to the Baiko, I would like to hear the response to 'Tum pyaar karte ho?' before delving into the entire encounter between bade Bhai ki wife and Sai ke Pati. Thankfully, Mrs Salunkhe is asking the right questions -- what am I even doing here? We all want to know what is your Five-year programme... Because the way things are going, one can't help wonder what you are really doing there. šŸ˜‚ I am sure she knows Bhavani has no love for her and there is really no one who loves her -- both her husband and his mother are missing. I hope she finds her answers and picks up pieces of her life to move on with grace. But isn't that too much to ask for of Mallika-e-Maturity?


Didi, yassss ofcourse kartaa hoon, ek dost ki tarah is what you are going to get. I would like to add to our lexicon -->> pyarosti is now zabardosti ....waise was so pleased someone said the S word today (notttttt S-E-X.....Samrat..bahahaa)...



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Virat has the opportunity tomorrow to acknowledge the hurt he's caused before he launches into mujhse bhi nahi? But i expect that is not going to happen and he's going into BUT WHY YOU NOOO LOVEEE MEEE! I'm Didi ka perfect match, surely you should love this Shravan Kumarness best husband material...introspect, retrospect, inspect but do not suspect :P

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Posted: 4 years ago
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What amazed me was he didn't even know she was allergic to alta. It's like hearing that she did it for the suhaag was enough. Suddenly he forgot that the tamasha happened. He also forgot that she apparently pushed his kaku. Tamasha and dhakka mikki happened but it's ok as she applied the alta. 🤪 He didn't even care to ask her why she refused when later she ended up wearing it.


There was no logic in telling them that she can't live in a hostel knowing that two days back he challenged her. All he could say that if she can't live in the house then he will go with her and live somewhere else.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: yyyy

Great analysis as always


I couldn’t recognize this Virat . He is not the one I admired . He was calm and composed because everything went as per the plan . I saw your response on my yesterday’s post , I don’t think they are showing his flaws . He was never this shallow . The same person in same situation few episodes back reacted differently but now he has changed so much . Either it’s lazy writing or a reason to show Sai as perfect one among the two . Anyway , coming to today’s SaiRat scenes , I was cheering for Sai when she spoke about her position in the family and the reason for doing household chores . Congratulations makers mission accomplished, I always had more sympathy for Virat now it’s for Sai .


Virat was misled by Ashwini today . It sounded like Sai was initially not ready to apply Alta but after explaining the importance of the ritual she agreed . One needs to patiently talk to her instead of forcing their choices on her . That’s not what happened she refused because she was allergic to Alta . She only agreed for his sake . No one including Sai cared to tell him how badly she was treated . I don’t understand why Sai doesn’t talk about how other physically intimidates her . She is not someone who will stay mum .


Another significant scene for me was , when she was uncomfortable with Virat so close to her . She was the same girl who was so close to him on their wedding night when they bumped their heads for the second time for a silly reason .They were so close during their lake date when she saved her from falling . What a journey šŸ˜” from that to this where even his small touch makes her uncomfortable. I am sad to see this .


Is that just me or the usual charm is missing in SaiRat scenes . I have noticed this after after Amay’s track started . Something is missing . I don’t know if I am overthinking.

No something is def missing .. either it’s story or dialogues or now we see a push and pull between both sides .. it’s like in between SaiRat .. one of them is not ready or happy at all to move forward w this and that’s Sai. She’s had enough of the chavan.. Virat is not the end in all for her to be happy. She can be happy and survive other ways and I think her constant reminders that she doesn’t feel homey is proof of that yet he does nothing to make her feel comfortable..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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What amazed me was he didn't even know she was allergic to alta. It's like hearing that she did it for the suhaag was enough. Suddenly he forgot that the tamasha happened. He also forgot that she apparently pushed his kaku. Tamasha and dhakka mikki happened but it's ok as she applied the alta. 🤪 He didn't even care to ask her why she refused when later she ended up wearing it.


There was no logic in telling them that she can't live in a hostel knowing that two days back he challenged her. All he could say that if she can't live in the house then he will go with her and live somewhere else.

@bold Forget saying he will move out, the man didn't even insist that his 'wife' will live in the house no matter what - he settled for "..but where will she go"? A man who cannot defend the right of his wife to live in his house has no right to expect ANYTHING from her. Period.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: WarriorB

It feels like such an affirmation to read this review of yours because I have honestly been feeling very jaded by the way Virat has been behaving since quite a while. I think it's been a lot of things but his jealousy way back set things into motion I guess. I have always felt jealousy arises from this base instinct to want to possess your partner and have ownership of them. And while it may be normal to feel once in a while, its different here. It feels like he wants to own her but that's it. Like it's an extension of his authority over her. I guess it feels like his desire runs skin deep not soul deep. Also that whole conversation about feed him when he is hungry sounded like such a man child thing! At the end of the day, I don't understand how Virat or rest of the obsequious family have all these expectations of her. Apologies for what sounds like a mad angry rant but the episodes nowadays feel very toxic and it feels like the writers wriggle out by portraying Sai as defiant. Which now they seem to want to tone down in the name of love. Sigh. I guess I need to take a breather for awhile.

You summed it up! This isn’t the same Ghum as we are used to seeing .. the only constant has been Sai and Pakhi .. Pakhi has been obsessed forever and that’s how she is .. I won’t be surprised by any of her actions. This changed Virat i can’t swallow down ..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: prs_725

No something is def missing .. either it’s story or dialogues or now we see a push and pull between both sides .. it’s like in between SaiRat .. one of them is not ready or happy at all to move forward w this and that’s Sai. She’s had enough of the chavan.. Virat is not the end in all for her to be happy. She can be happy and survive other ways and I think her constant reminders that she doesn’t feel homey is proof of that yet he does nothing to make her feel comfortable..


Yes. It is Sai. She's totally curled up inwards where he is concerned. Why is he so obtuse ? He is not even trying to understand her. His question is only about himself...did she really apply that Alta for me?

Not even ..she got that allergy because she applied Alta for me, at least a one line introspection would've added some sensitivity to Virat. Or maybe he will verbalize it tomorrow.

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