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Posted: 5 years ago
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No it wouldn’t, and honestly I think it’s ridiculous for historical stuff in HW too 🤷🏽‍♀️.

When a characters race is specified in the book/play your basing the film on, I don’t think you should be casting people of some other race, whether that means casting a black actor as a Victorian lord, or casting a white actor in a character that was originally black in a contemporary novel 🤷🏽‍♀️

It’s just silly either way and does nothing to end real racism.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Is there any real use to cast color people for white roles by hollywood?


As long as society there discriminates blacks there is no use


Look at how floyd was treated


No matter what they do blacks are second class citizens there


So whats use of putting color people in white roles

Exactly, bad casting is no solution to racism...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Is there any real use to cast color people for white roles by hollywood?


As long as society there discriminates blacks there is no use


Look at how floyd was treated


No matter what they do blacks are second class citizens there


So whats use of putting color people in white roles


There are lots of movies with ample roles for Black actors. It's other racial groups who are under-represented, such as East Asians, Hispanics and South Asians.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: FilmiDhun

No. I only want historically accurate representation s while casting actors.


I am SICK of the new trend in western media of casting people of colour just for the sake of tokenism and for scoring brownie points among social justice warriors. 🤢🤢🤢


I don't find these kind of gimmicks or initiatives even the slightest bit praiseworthy. Its particularly infuriating when a movie or piece of work is only praised because of these things when it should be solely judged based on its quality.😵

100% agree with you. Historical or novel representations need to be accurate, otherwise the makers are insulting history or the author who wrote the book.

The latest disappointment in casting has to be The Little Mermaid Live Action for me...the Disney film is based off the Scandinavian legend, they should've got an actual red head playing the role, not just taking a POC as a marketing gimmick.

Studios should stick to the storyline and accurancy, not cast someone for some woke agenda.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mahisa22

It's funny how nobody has a problem with Black actors playing White characters, but the reverse would create a hue and cry.

I find this very stupid. In their attempt of being woke and inclusive Hollywood is just being ridiculous. How about cast actors according to the race of character. If they really want to be woke how about make more stories with people of colour instead of changing the race of already established characters.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: capricornrcks

The early Mughals are described as having "approximately even mixture of Caucasian and Mongol blood". So casting Hrithik as Akbar would not have been totally inappropriate. Amusing fact is that Babur distrusted and despised Mongols and considered himself as Turkish.


Not true, Mughal is just a persian rendition of the word Mongol, the early Mughals looked like Mongols, they had east asian features, the Turks are related to the Mongols, and they also looked like Mongols.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

100% agree with you. Historical or novel representations need to be accurate, otherwise the makers are insulting history or the author who wrote the book.

In the case of Bridgertons, the author Julia Quinn supported the color blind casting. I mean what else is she going to say. Other than say J.K.Rowling or Neil Gaiman(Good Omens) none of the authors get much say in how say in how their books are interpreted. I'd hate to see Little Mermaid ruined for the sake of being more inclusive. I guess Disney is following the same tactic which Mattle did with the Barbie so many years before.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalika01

No it wouldn’t, and honestly I think it’s ridiculous for historical stuff in HW too 🤷🏽‍♀️.

When a characters race is specified in the book/play your basing the film on, I don’t think you should be casting people of some other race, whether that means casting a black actor as a Victorian lord, or casting a white actor in a character that was originally black in a contemporary novel 🤷🏽‍♀️

It’s just silly either way and does nothing to end real racism.


It is a Utopian idea. How can you pretend that different races don't exist? It's like pretending my garden has roses and only roses. I don't see other flowers. If the movie/series is successful, the coming generations would underestimate the effect of the heinous acts and bigotry which were committed by Europeans and believe that the society was more inclusive in those days. You shouldn't nurse resentment for the cruelties suffered by your ancestors. But at the same time you shouldn't forget their sacrifices and the efforts to stand up for their rights. From what I'm reading those who support color blind casting in both communities would prefer to conveniently forget that things were worse in the past. Apparently many black actors are tired of constantly acting as slaves in historicals. Closing your eyes does not make the truth go away.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Historicals hardly work in India anyways😆.


Plus the thing is simple, In India a Punjabi played a Marathi warrior, and nobody cared. Or a Muslim North Indian played a Maratha Shiv Sena leader. People lapped on to it, without batting an eye.

Now the issue would have happened, if new articles came out praising Thakrey movie makers for choosing a member from the group which generally used to be the target of Shiv Sena. Saying it is some sort of empowerment of North Indians. Than we could have seen a huge social media uproar. I mean nobody cared that a black man was shown as God in Almighty Bruce or Lucifer series. But controversy arises when they use these gimmick to appear woke. It is the virtue signalling which makes things worse in Hollywood. And ofcourse there will always be cnuts in social media who will be racist, but these movie PR use those people to make everyone else racist, and than people who don't care, also start revolting.

Like when Charlie Angels reboot came, people didn't cared, than its director starting using the woman empowerment angle, and hell broke loose. Hollywood or Bollywood have always used political and activist fools for promotion and they will keep on using them.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: MujheMaarjaneDo

Historicals hardly work in India anyways😆.


Plus the thing is simple, In India a Punjabi played a Marathi warrior, and nobody cared. Or a Muslim North Indian played a Maratha Shiv Sena leader. People lapped on to it, without batting an eye.

Now the issue would have happened, if new articles came out praising Thakrey movie makers for choosing a member from the group which generally used to be the target of Shiv Sena. Saying it is some sort of empowerment of North Indians. Than we could have seen a huge social media uproar. I mean nobody cared that a black man was shown as God in Almighty Bruce or Lucifer series. But controversy arises when they use these gimmick to appear woke. It is the virtue signalling which makes things worse in Hollywood. And ofcourse there will always be cnuts in social media who will be racist, but these movie PR use those people to make everyone else racist, and than people who don't care, also start revolting.

Like when Charlie Angels reboot came, people didn't cared, than its director starting using the woman empowerment angle, and hell broke loose. Hollywood or Bollywood have always used political and activist fools for promotion and they will keep on using them.


I agree that the PR people sometimes deliberately fuel the racial tensions to get more publicity for their project. Something similar happened with Padmavat in India too.


I think we Indians are perhaps too passionate about our historicals. Look at the mayhem created,the court cases filed,and relatives coming out of the woodwork when each of our historical movies come out. Nobody has so far made a fuss about the ethnicity of the actors in Indian historicals because we can pass for each other. Our differences aren't that obvious to the naked eye. But just let someone from outside the Indian subcontinent play one of our beloved historical characters and we can imagine the furor. Look at how Manipuris protested when Priyanka played Mary Kom.

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