Would you have forgiven Shahid Kapoor's character in Ishq Vishk? - Page 4

Originally posted by: S_H_Y

Rajeev was wrong alisha was better choice than dull payal, it was the usual hero misses his desi and homely gf even though she had nothing to offer.

Alisha was much better than these two love sick puppies. Was not only more beautiful but also way mature to didn't give a damn about Rajeev in the end.

But Shehnaaz had a better chemistry with Shahid than Amrita for sure in my opinion.

This song is also love ❤️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrmIdM42kVw

Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

What exactly was Rajeev's fault? That he like any other guy from his generation didn't believe in true love? That he didn't return back the same feelings Payal had for him? Why is he supposed to have the same intensity in his love like Payal?

Rajeev was like any other guy who wanted to become popular in college and needed a girlfriend for that. Forgive him for wanting things which any guy of his age usually wants. Payal was in love with him, that doesn't mean he has to also be in love with her. It was not his fault if Payal was a pure and pious girl who believed love is like what it's shown in Bollywood movies.

Rajeev proposed her to become his girlfriend, big deal!!! He only said that he was in love, not that he'll marry her or anything. Not his fault if mohtarma ne shaadi tak ka plan bana liya just based on one proposal. Payal was a girl who didn't live in the real world. She should've known that couples break up all the time even if they were very serious about each other previously.

Here they have just started dating and she's fasting for him as if she's his wife. Like what the hell? First know each other properly. Spend some time and see if it works out. And Rajeev had the full right to walk away from that relationship any time he wanted. Even if he was not serious about it, that's his choice. Here people are too much stressing on this fact of Payal being in love with Rajeev since childhood. That's not love in the first place. It's crush, and forgive him if he didn't return back those feelings and also forgive him if he expected Payal to be a mature girl who knows how to move on from a relationship.

Even Payal realized later on that it was her fault for expecting too much in this relationship just because she's the one in love.

I agree that you can't give Rajiv a hard time for not reciprocating Amrita's feelings. The problem is he had no sense of loyalty even as a friend. The movie also portrays him as someone who DOES have feelings for Payal underneath it all but can't come to terms with it cuz she is not "popular" like others. As someone who is desperate for approval, the guy is conflicted and can't be honest with himself.

Knowing Payal's feelings, he misleads her into thinking that he feels the same way about her just to go to Goa with his gang of jackasses too. Then makes sexual advances on her and doesn't get the hint or relent even when she's visibly squirming till she gets up and slaps him. Granted he's a typical teenager who loves to look cool and popular, some things are despicable even for a teenager. Then, he chases the next hot thing in school .... can't handle it and starts hankering for Payal's attention again. His fault is that he is a despicable @$$, not because he didn't return Payal's feelings but because he is a pathetic, insecure character.

Given the "happy ending" bollywood movies often come with, I would have preferred to watch Rajiv jump through some hoops to get to Payal at the end instead of getting what he wanted after pulling one big asinine stunt.

This movie was hot garbage

Originally posted by: Harley_Quinn

What exactly was Rajeev's fault? That he like any other guy from his generation didn't believe in true love? That he didn't return back the same feelings Payal had for him? Why is he supposed to have the same intensity in his love like Payal?

Rajeev was like any other guy who wanted to become popular in college and needed a girlfriend for that. Forgive him for wanting things which any guy of his age usually wants. Payal was in love with him, that doesn't mean he has to also be in love with her. It was not his fault if Payal was a pure and pious girl who believed love is like what it's shown in Bollywood movies.

Rajeev proposed her to become his girlfriend, big deal!!! He only said that he was in love, not that he'll marry her or anything. Not his fault if mohtarma ne shaadi tak ka plan bana liya just based on one proposal. Payal was a girl who didn't live in the real world. She should've known that couples break up all the time even if they were very serious about each other previously.

Here they have just started dating and she's fasting for him as if she's his wife. Like what the hell? First know each other properly. Spend some time and see if it works out. And Rajeev had the full right to walk away from that relationship any time he wanted. Even if he was not serious about it, that's his choice. Here people are too much stressing on this fact of Payal being in love with Rajeev since childhood. That's not love in the first place. It's crush, and forgive him if he didn't return back those feelings and also forgive him if he expected Payal to be a mature girl who knows how to move on from a relationship.

Even Payal realized later on that it was her fault for expecting too much in this relationship just because she's the one in love.

@bold: Many GFs and even BFs keep fast for their partner, it's not a big deal. They knew everything about each other including their deepest darkest secrets since their childhood, so of course their bonding since their childhood matters.

That would be a hard no for me. I wouldn’t be able to overlook the fact that he made me look like an idiot by faking feelings and even tried to pressure me into getting physical because he was a sex-starved immature piece of shit. The anger would be 100 x worse knowing that he was a childhood friend who I knew, loved and trusted.

But I sometimes throw my morals out the window when I watch movies, so I was okay with the heroine forgiving him for the sake of giving me a happily ever after 😆

In 2003, probably yes. I was a romantic then.

Today, hell to the no, I am more pragmatic now.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a young man who wants to have a fun relationship and have physical intimacy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being conservative and expecting only serious relationships that have marriage as the endgame either. What Rajiv and Payal want out of relationships are incompatible though. Herein lies my problem with Rajiv. He is not transparent about what he wants and acts entitled to intimacy.

He is well aware of how Payal views relationships. He gets with her in the hopes of charming/seducing her knowing very well that she doesn't want that. He doesn't dissuade her when she does stuff like karva chauth. Then he gets mad when she doesn't put out. He could have had a mature conversation with her which could have ended up with three outcomes 1) Payal agrees to compromise her ideals 2) Rajiv decides to take it slow 3) They both break up because they want different things. Instead, he publicly insults and ridicules her. Then he gets together with Alisha not because he likes her but because he wants to insult Payal.

Ultimately, they're all kids awkwardly navigating relationships in a society that does not have positive gender socialization. Hopefully, after college, Rajiv learns to be transparent with his intentions and handle disagreements in relationships maturely. Alisha hopefully learns to trust women and not assume the worst of them. Over time even Payal might loosen up her notions of love.