Yeh Rishtey Hai Pyaar Ke Live Updates/EDT 16 Sep 2020 - Page 30

Originally posted by: riya27

Hey Mannie ,

Good to see a different view ..ummm... May be more of why kuhu is at this situation??

Agreed , given the way meenu manipulated her, it's pretty hard to be sane after meenu's strikes... If a strong and hoshiyaar person like abir and mishti fall prey for her antics, it's inevitable in case of kuhu. But still somewhere am not able to answer my own self for few obvious questions which would've been easier option for kuhu if she tried at all

Kuhu was ensuring of kunal future - agreed, but don't kunal have an business degree and smoke experience to run a business - is it not a good option to start again rather than renting (am using this term as what kuhu offered was not help but sealed a deal) something 🤔

Kuhu - Felt disgusted when kunal kept this idea as an solution - I felt happy coz it was the sane reaction any girl who got married newly will reflect. We all praises her too for her stand 🤓

Now when the same idea was proposed with some benefits how come it was not cringeworthy and by hook or crook it was stuffed on others face

Abir dreaming about his own baby is ridiculed but not the idea of being surrogate for hidden motives.. Are we unseeing what was offered to us in real and readily pouncing on other characters ??

Kuhu again called the adoption agency without the knowledge or concern of the actual parties involved - It's right to shatter others dreams for our own benefit and keep them in dark and glorify this act as something sacred.

Uff, how many times do I need to write the same names, for a change, mishti's sister is portraying to others that this act is out of kindness and returning the favour to the good will of her sister and bro ...but is that the reality?? Even if there was 10 %of this thoughts behind her decision I would've simply had a ray of hope ..but again NOooo...

With purely selfish intentions a decision was made and it's going to spoil all 4 lives...

I agree Mishbir is at fault ..they are hopeless.. Only coz they give chance to others to fool them again and again in the name of love

Regarding your last point 🤪

Am forever indebted to makers for not thinking about that 🤣

Obviously if kuhu just spilled meenus manipulation this would be the end of the track and no story lol

See if it was only about kunals capabilities its more about being meenus son and from this family which meenu can easily take away in a moment if she desires.

As for kuhu changing her mind her initial reaction was everyones lol but then meenu with her subtle hypnotizing words manipulated her and even if she said no she would not stop meenu said she would not stop till she got her way lol

As for surrogates having motives heck any tv show that has this plays up on the motives lol kuhus are pretty tame lol also in real scenario surrogates are given monetary compensation you guys think when foreigners or locals used surrogates in india those women did it out of their pure hearts those women got some compensation people lol

Kuhu calling the agency was wrong but i think she feels she has no choice now she agreed to the deal and kunal isnt reliable enough to protect her lol meenu wont give up anyway lol also i blame this agency that didnt verify who called and check with mishbir like hello talk to the applicants and them even giving them a kid in like few days this agency is like so shady maybe kuhu saved them lol

Even if kuhus motives come out it shows meenu in worse light anyway it might open kunals eyes that he is just a means to an end for her and nothing else and abir might finally get the push to cut all ties.

I think for kuhu its like she does this she is solving a lot of issues, mishbir get the baby meenu doesnt go after them, kunal future secured, she gets praises etc for all time and everyone is happy, she doesnt realize the whole physical and emotional ramifications that will go with this like her mom and bm are trying to make her realize. Heck even mishbir and kunal dont know yet how this will effect them emotionally. All four are in for a roller coaster ride

Originally posted by: Su94

Yes, some part of her is legit doing this for MishBir as well, even when taking her desperation into account. I was made to believe so from the episode.

Arrey no no... Am not gonna believe her... You should not believe what isshown to you😆

Originally posted by: manny136

Obviously if kuhu just spilled meenus manipulation this would be the end of the track and no story lol

See if it was only about kunals capabilities its more about being meenus son and from this family which meenu can easily take away in a moment if she desires.

As for kuhu changing her mind her initial reaction was everyones lol but then meenu with her subtle hypnotizing words manipulated her and even if she said no she would not stop meenu said she would not stop till she got her way lol

As for surrogates having motives heck any tv show that has this plays up on the motives lol kuhus are pretty tame lol also in real scenario surrogates are given monetary compensation you guys think when foreigners or locals used surrogates in india those women did it out of their pure hearts those women got some compensation people lol

Kuhu calling the agency was wrong but i think she feels she has no choice now she agreed to the deal and kunal isnt reliable enough to protect her lol meenu wont give up anyway lol also i blame this agency that didnt verify who called and check with mishbir like hello talk to the applicants and them even giving them a kid in like few days this agency is like so shady maybe kuhu saved them lol

Even if kuhus motives come out it shows meenu in worse light anyway it might open kunals eyes that he is just a means to an end for her and nothing else and abir might finally get the push to cut all ties.

I think for kuhu its like she does this she is solving a lot of issues, mishbir get the baby meenu doesnt go after them, kunal future secured, she gets praises etc for all time and everyone is happy, she doesnt realize the whole physical and emotional ramifications that will go with this like her mom and bm are trying to make her realize. Heck even mishbir and kunal dont know yet how this will effect them emotionally. All four are in for a roller coaster ride

Of course we have different perspective here.. But it's pretty clear that she keeps her own self and her needs which was perceived as kunal's stable future which is as delusional as her most of the thought process... But it's her life and her choice.. I don't mind it until it's about her... But no where a surrogate positions herself as a sacrifier and sells the option.. Rather forces the option by simple blocking all the simplest ways and solutions...

Point here is.. No where she had given her word or committed to meenu nor she is that kind of character who stands by her word through thick or thin.. Infact she was allergic to mishti's weakness towards words and promises.. So it was not a big deal and not messed up until she put forth her needs above all... Especially 3 other lives emotions at bay... But that's how i have seen kuhu from the start and she didn't surprise me this time even...

Still. Am going to keep my gope on 1.2 kg and rest the analysis on kuhu Ji 😆

I have invested more time speaking abt her than i have done in last 1 year 🤣

Sorry Manny if I miss replying further about this particular topic... Discussions abt few characters is not my cup of tea after a point 🤗

Anyways I loved your optimism though.. We will chat about upcoming scenes in future ❤️

Originally posted by: riya27

Arrey no no... Am not gonna believe her... You should not believe what isshown to you😆

Ofcourse, but I wanna keep these doubts to myself for now. Aaj ke episode ke basis par that's how I felt. I felt that bandi aaj itni negative nahi hai par future mein she can be, maybe when she gets attached to the baby and/or her hate for Mish resurfaces.

"A wise enemy is better dan a foolish friend"

Aur kya chahiye damage has already been done. Kuhu in her own selfish need has finished mishbir live. She is still not understanding what has she done to dem.

Plz don't blame meenu. Y should we blame meenu if a 21st century , educated girl doesn't know how to stand by her opinion. For what ??? For what?? Just to secure her position. Isn't dat materialistic. Isn't she selling her womb, her motherhood for property, when she herself come from a rich family , has her own business 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀🤷‍♀. If it was for selfless reason may be a noble deed but clearly it isn't. She should stop expressing dat to mishbir or to any one dat she is doing out of love because it's not.

I don't understand how is kuhu an important character 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀ dat dey huv to insert her in between Every high point of mishbir life.. Unnecessary shoving down our throat bro bond. Which is nothing just toxic thing where one Always betray d others.

Der is something which is meant for couple n should be with in couple. I don't want to compare but ek show at least she keeps everything between couples. Look at other shows in SP. Y dey huv increase in trp??? Just little introspection won't harm cv I guess. There d couple behaves like couple, dey huv couple type scenes, what r we having cringe worthy group hug .Unnecessary sibling bond yuck 🤮🤮🤮🤮. It's just a start bahut kuch jhelna hain abhi going by Interview we r going to huv full fleged pregnancy n dat article has come true for PS so I guess it will be true for us also. 🤷‍♀🤷‍♀🤷‍♀

May be dat's y yrphk has become na ghar ka na ghat ka. Neither online audience is happy nor offline audience giving trp

Originally posted by: Su94

Ofcourse, but I wanna keep these doubts to myself for now. Aaj ke episode ke basis par that's how I felt. I felt that bandi aaj itni negative nahi hai par future mein she can be, maybe when she gets attached to the baby and/or her hate for Mish resurfaces.

I can vouch for that 😆

On the flip side am joining pray circle to avoid this track wholesomely 🤣

Originally posted by: riya27

Of course we have different perspective here.. But it's pretty clear that she keeps her own self and her needs which was perceived as kunal's stable future which is as delusional as her most of the thought process... But it's her life and her choice.. I don't mind it until it's about her... But no where a surrogate positions herself as a sacrifier and sells the option.. Rather forces the option by simple blocking all the simplest ways and solutions...

Point here is.. No where she had given her word or committed to meenu nor she is that kind of character who stands by her word through thick or thin.. Infact she was allergic to mishti's weakness towards words and promises.. So it was not a big deal and not messed up until she put forth her needs above all... Especially 3 other lives emotions at bay... But that's how i have seen kuhu from the start and she didn't surprise me this time even...

Still. Am going to keep my gope on 1.2 kg and rest the analysis on kuhu Ji 😆

I have invested more time speaking abt her than i have done in last 1 year 🤣

Sorry Manny if I miss replying further about this particular topic... Discussions abt few characters is not my cup of tea after a point 🤗

Anyways I loved your optimism though.. We will chat about upcoming scenes in future ❤️

At bold: I agree that she always keep her needs and self above anything. She knows that Kunal is not real heir also Kunal treats her worse in difficult times. If she is that much selfish and calculative, she would have divorced Kunal and married anyone who is rich as she have her family support now as her whole family is against surrogacy also its easy way out rather than dealing with a person like Kunal who will leave her at any second. More than anything, she is easy to fool as it happened two times such as marriage and pregnancy too. But the thing is in fake marriage, only she is affected for her foolishness. Here, four people might be affected by her foolishness. I really don't know what is her thinking process! She is not thinking long time solutions and consequences, this time she is gonna suffer hard and make others suffer too.

Originally posted by: manny136

Obviously if kuhu just spilled meenus manipulation this would be the end of the track and no story lol

See if it was only about kunals capabilities its more about being meenus son and from this family which meenu can easily take away in a moment if she desires.

As for kuhu changing her mind her initial reaction was everyones lol but then meenu with her subtle hypnotizing words manipulated her and even if she said no she would not stop meenu said she would not stop till she got her way lol

As for surrogates having motives heck any tv show that has this plays up on the motives lol kuhus are pretty tame lol also in real scenario surrogates are given monetary compensation you guys think when foreigners or locals used surrogates in india those women did it out of their pure hearts those women got some compensation people lol

Kuhu calling the agency was wrong but i think she feels she has no choice now she agreed to the deal and kunal isnt reliable enough to protect her lol meenu wont give up anyway lol also i blame this agency that didnt verify who called and check with mishbir like hello talk to the applicants and them even giving them a kid in like few days this agency is like so shady maybe kuhu saved them lol

Even if kuhus motives come out it shows meenu in worse light anyway it might open kunals eyes that he is just a means to an end for her and nothing else and abir might finally get the push to cut all ties.

I think for kuhu its like she does this she is solving a lot of issues, mishbir get the baby meenu doesnt go after them, kunal future secured, she gets praises etc for all time and everyone is happy, she doesnt realize the whole physical and emotional ramifications that will go with this like her mom and bm are trying to make her realize. Heck even mishbir and kunal dont know yet how this will effect them emotionally. All four are in for a roller coaster ride

Haan, I also believe that Kuhu couldn't have made her immediate ulterior motives clearer. Her desperation to be a surrogate is multifactorial. It stems from everything that has been happening around her, same as when a couple of days ago Mahs were discussing how Kunal wronged Kuhu but the next day he put forth his reasons so clearly just to show what influenced him to be a jerk to Kuhu.

Besides securing Kunal's future and their status in Meenu's palace, everything else she wants to achieve like, I don't know-godhood(in MishBir's eyes), she can still get by doing something else because MishBir are anyway used to praising her for the littlest things.

It's not like she concocted a plan to become the sole bahu or the next matriarch of Rajvansh house and oust Mishti by becoming the surrogate. Now that would be evil.

She is thinking of duniyadaari because Meenu is forcing her to do so. Meenu was more blunt with Abir when she said that she'll steal the roof over Kunal. She played mind games with Kuhu here but she is implying the same. If Meenu had given an outright dhamki (which would have probably been her next move: since after saam-daam comes dand), would we judge her this harshly already?

Kuhu knows Kunal's worth but then she will have to make him leave which would involve separating Kunal from the Rajvansh name and everything associated with it like the house, respect, fame etc that Kunal grew up with and she obviously also wants, because why not. Would you rather KuKu leave and MishBir stay back? Kuhu decided to solve all problems with this one decision, mostly selfish but not entirely.

This is my opinion. I think that if Meenu had threatened her openly the way she did Abir, we would be seeing this whole mess that Kuhu created by agreeing in a different light.

PS: Only unforgivable thing today is Kuhu arbitrarily calling up the agency and cancelling the adoption.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I am not convinced with the track because -

1 They are writing Abir’s character to show that he is against Meenu, He doesn’t mind when other people do what Meenu is doing. Goes without saying that his reaction would have been different if it was “Ms Rajvash” Meenu is single.

Kuhu can cancel adoption but Meenu cannot, I would never allow anyone this level of interference, my family is not allowed to touch my phone. They won’t get the baby is not a problem because Kuhu canceled it.

2 Involvement of Kuhu and Kunal in Mishbir’s private life, Families are close but the agenda to throw the sibling show down our throats is unbearable. It works in shows where siblings love each other, It won’t work where Kuhu tried to kill Misthi


3 Most Importantly, Surrogacy is a very controversial and sensitive topic. If they want to use it as a tool for drama, do it properly

Bold: Abir’s blindness towards Kuhu’s misdeeds are not kosher. If Meenu had cancelled the adoption would he have spared Meenu? But for Bro everything is forgiven.

2. Exactly, Kuhu tried to cause fatal injury/ harm to Mishti twice, the Janmashtami push and the pills in the coffee. Those pills were meant for Mishti and would have made her seriously ill if a big built guy like Abir was knocked out for a whole day!
Kuhu is the person in the show jiskey 7 khoon maaf hain. Unlike Meenu she rarely gets caught for her crimes and never gets punished. Even Abir lets her off the hook too lightly.

Kuhu is offering forcing surrogacy on MishBir for her pure selfish motives - whatever they may be.

And none of them include actually wanting to help Mishti and Abir to have their own child.

She is playing with MishBir's future life for her own potential gain and there is no two ways about it.

This is another one of her... galti se hogaya

Meenakshi wants surrogacy for MishBir for her own selfish motives,

Kuhu wants for her own.

The only difference is the hold Kuhu has on MishBir, Meenu doe not.

Moral of the story is:

MishBir need to wake up, smell the coffee and see Kuhu for who she is and free themselves from her hold. Until they do that, they are not going to be happy.