Sushant Singh Rajput Case Thread #7 - UPDATES/DISCUSSIONS (DT Note 140 - Page 56

Originally posted by: Bekind

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CDG43YvBqrq/?igshid=63fcygvwmy2w

This was from 2019 I think and he looks very nice.

https://youtu.be/QAd3Kb7qBOc

Originally posted by: zaroonkashaf

A lot of folks who are in toxic relationships choose their partners out of free will indeed. This notion that their family, their friends and anyone who can see a relationship for what it really was should then worship the ground their toxic partner walks on is preposterous. I'm not someone who would condone labelling Rhea with some of the tags that are out there but we can call a spade a spade without resorting to sexist slurs out there. There is enough to suggest this was an abusive relationship to say the least.

As for the mob mentality...plenty of us are now living in a version of this country where folks have been lynched because of that mob mentality. So let's acknowledge the mob mentality did not arise out of this case. It has always existed and has been given a go ahead by the very parties that some put on a freaking pedestal. The ruling party in the country, hell SS itself have all been part of that mob that you are talking about. What is bizarre is that the progressives out there are now defending a party that has literally tragetted people from Bihar. The same party didn't even spare Sushant's father and Sushant himself. So please talk about the mob mentality because one needs to but it ain't restricted to this case. Even in this case the mob that you are referring to exists on both ends.

Stood by him? The girl left him when he needed her the most probably. She didn't just abruptly leave, she also blocked him! You know what this behavior would be termed as if a woman was at the receiving end of this shit? It would be termed toxic. Imagine leaving someone knowing fully well what their mental state is considering you were the one who was apparently in charge of his so called treatment and then imagine having the gall to say after their passing that what they had is eternal, exponential and what not!

Some of us struggle with mental health issues, live with people who struggle with mental health issues. Some of us know what a burden it can be even on someone who is taking care of a person who is struggling with a mental health issue. It's called caregivers burden. I would have understood if this were that. This wasn't. This girl initially through her PR had put out stories out there that projected she was in touch with Sushant after she left. She wasn't. She had blocked him. Then came the stories that she called his sister before she left. She didn't. It was Sushant who did. If you give a damn about your partner, you would at least have a modicum of sensitivity to inform his family before you leave. Or at least reply to his father's plea when he was asking about how his son was doing. Who the hell leaves a person in that fragile a state and then blocks them! Esp knowing how dependent that person is on you now since he had already become quite estranged with his own family, friends since you entered the picture. You change his entire ecosystem and leave him in a lurch yet his family is supposed to be "understanding"....wow.

Now coming to his family....It was them who stood by him till the end. What is this notion of denial of depression! Hell they weren't even kept in the loop about the treatment he was being given. It's his family he made SOS calls to and it's them who were there by his side as and when he reached out. They were the ones who raised several red flags here. I dig how his family is being painted as a regressive lot who are in denial about his mental health and are seeking some kind of revenge just because they apparently didn't like his girlfriend. The same family who didn't have an issue with his previous girlfriends! The same family who didn't have an issue with him choosing the career he did even though he left a so called secure line. The same family who brought him up so much love, care and affection, who taught him so much of what he knew is now being blamed for not being there. Bravo! They were the only ones there. They cared to the degree that despite them being alienated from him for a period of time, they kept trying to reach him, to make him understand what he was dealing with.

So many here seem to care about mental health yet the same people refuse to acknowledge the factors that could have impacted his mental health. Please read about what toxic relationships can do to your mental health. This was one. The loved ones of those who are stuck in such relationships can at times try their best to do what they can in such circumstances yet are unable to make much progress because such relationships can suck you in in a way where you lose your sense of what is healthy and what isn't. The relationship which Sushant was in was abusive. Nobody would be hesitating to throw that word around had a woman been at the receiving end of that abuse because that's the norm. But exceptions exist.

Hey, thanks for your response. This is not the first time we are seeing mob mentality and you are absolutely right that in this day, the country is witnessing more of it. The only difference being it was more of anti national (famous in the last 8 years) than ever who usually take the brunt of it. While there are genuine fans who are unable to overcome the loss of their idol, there is no denial that the blood thirsty mob that directs attention to the hashtag is actively driving the narrative. The likes of Arnab and other peddlers yelling at their screens for a war against person/ their favorite neighboring country have been targeting every possible person with their own vendetta.

It’s difficult for neutral viewers, I would like to believe I am one, as I have not had a passionate liking or a strong dislike for SSR, to watch this charade and believe that this whole blood thirsty mob that went after Bollywood initially then pivoting to MH Govt(no prizes for guessing why an anchor who was interrogated for hours by the same state police) , the MH police, critics and blind writers and then settled on apparently the famous gold digger girlfriend! Not an ounce of lack of respect to all those who were bulldozed in the name of suspects by those with an agenda of nepotism hatred, self-serving witnesses of justice who have even mostly not met or spend time with SSR. While fans might want to believe that all means are fair as long as they are getting their justice ( such a farce term esp with the man is literally dead), it is hard to see them trampling so many with their social media warrior ship for having an opinion not as strongly supportive of theirs. Innocent bystanders over conspiracy theories is not everyone’s cup of tea. That’s why even after being in IF for years, I am posting today.

With respect to toxic relationships, this is now he- must-have-felt vs she-apparently-said! SSR did not end up with Riya as the first choice of girl friend! With a history of having a long term relationship that he willingly broke up with, this man was not new to the concept of relationship. Heck, he broke the woman’s heart over Bollywood and the same mob went after him after ambitions and philandering ways. So, I completely disagree that his history doesn’t show him as a needy person for a relationship. Case in point would also be Kriti who after all rumors didn’t accept their relationship but also posted that she was pushed out of his life by wait for it... SSR himself! Given all of this witnessed when SSR and his girlfriends were able to speak for themselves, it is very believable that the man made a choice to be with Riya; for whatever reasons he believed was right for him. We have the man dead, who cannot speak for his relationship so the circumstantial evidence will have to decide that this was abusive as whatever the Girlfriend says will be damned. So, no it’s not woke feminism to defend, all neutral folks would like to see is a woman not dragged on the streets and pronouced guilty in newsrooms and social media and wait for law to run its course. Guilty, until proven would be the least they could owe. Not too much to ask now the CBI investigation is applied.

with respect to Rhea’s responsibility to be with SSR in his last days, heck how do we even know or expected her to know that he would be committing suicide in a week. Not everybody can stomach the requirements of a healthy individual for continuing a relationship and in this case, there is enough evidence of the mental health doctor whom she apparently took him for visits to keep him sane. If SSR continued to live, we would have not considered his yet another break up with some other reason like his history. So don’t give that woman an award for taking him to the doc, but don’t hold her accountable for not picking up his call. Because in relationships, people need a break! Everything that happened with them could be a toxic relationship or a relationship that went wrong. To blame it one person is the most disservice to divert the attention from the issues that SSR possibly had.

The family supporting his career ambitions. Providing a safe haven for loving family is a pre requisite for all normal household. I am not putting a drivel that they are the ones who pushed him to suicide! Not will I claim that they are gold diggers to now claim the wealth coz Then I will sound definitely like the mob :-) The lack of ownership by the overzealous need to blame the girlfriend in their efforts to have tried to reach him is no excuse! Especially when they were 2 hours away by flight. What struck me first when this whole suicide news broke out was reading about dad being repeatedly requested by SSR was frightening. If my child was seeing a mental health professional for 7 months and was also screaming for help, I would believe given their support of his ambitions, they would have wanted to be on the first flight to protect him. Not to mention, nobody is holding his sister who was called to be with him not being present when he took his life. So much for responsibility and This is what makes me hard to take the family’s fight for justice against Riya as the moral compass is very low on that one

Depression is real. Covid-19 and isolation are incrementally pushing folks with mental health issues into a deeper ditch given the lack of social interactions. We can choose the convenient toxic abusive relationship because the man ain’t there to confirm what happened and a stigma of mental health will somehow ink the perfect idol that the justice is working hard for. Or we can choose to accept that there must be more than one reason for a person suffering from depression, including the lack of family not being there when he needed most, one who posted his mother’s pic on his social media, who’s ex girl friend was engaged recently, must have been having a hard time processing his life with his emotions, making that one vulnerable mistake which is now hounding every possible person that he chose to cross paths with. And Wait on it till the dots are connected to showcase the actual cause of the death.
i can bet on it that the end of this charade, activist will be disappointed if their favorite person on the dartboard is not pronounced guilty and the same central government and CBI will be held for not providing the justice that was convenient to believe.

Originally posted by: SriRani

I am reading some tweets that are horrible to even discuss. the guy who is sharing the inside news is an advocate and son of nirbhaya case defendant lawyer.
Since Cbi has taken up the case I don’t want to share any speculative news without any source.

That guy is an attention seeker. (Sometimes he speaks about depression/suicide. Other days, he speaks about powerful people targeting him, but he will beat all of them. Deepika + Kangana). Don't fall for his words.

I used to follow him earlier. He kept defending killers of Asifa (girl from Katua), even after the verdict. I can understand the initial disbelief or denial. But he prolonged even after verdict. Then someone brought up the Nirbhaya topic. I unfollowed him then.

Originally posted by: zaroonkashaf

A lot of folks who are in toxic relationships choose their partners out of free will indeed. This notion that their family, their friends and anyone who can see a relationship for what it really was should then worship the ground their toxic partner walks on is preposterous. I'm not someone who would condone labelling Rhea with some of the tags that are out there but we can call a spade a spade without resorting to sexist slurs out there. There is enough to suggest this was an abusive relationship to say the least.

As for the mob mentality...plenty of us are now living in a version of this country where folks have been lynched because of that mob mentality. So let's acknowledge the mob mentality did not arise out of this case. It has always existed and has been given a go ahead by the very parties that some put on a freaking pedestal. The ruling party in the country, hell SS itself have all been part of that mob that you are talking about. What is bizarre is that the progressives out there are now defending a party that has literally tragetted people from Bihar. The same party didn't even spare Sushant's father and Sushant himself. So please talk about the mob mentality because one needs to but it ain't restricted to this case. Even in this case the mob that you are referring to exists on both ends.

Stood by him? The girl left him when he needed her the most probably. She didn't just abruptly leave, she also blocked him! You know what this behavior would be termed as if a woman was at the receiving end of this shit? It would be termed toxic. Imagine leaving someone knowing fully well what their mental state is considering you were the one who was apparently in charge of his so called treatment and then imagine having the gall to say after their passing that what they had is eternal, exponential and what not!

Some of us struggle with mental health issues, live with people who struggle with mental health issues. Some of us know what a burden it can be even on someone who is taking care of a person who is struggling with a mental health issue. It's called caregivers burden. I would have understood if this were that. This wasn't. This girl initially through her PR had put out stories out there that projected she was in touch with Sushant after she left. She wasn't. She had blocked him. Then came the stories that she called his sister before she left. She didn't. It was Sushant who did. If you give a damn about your partner, you would at least have a modicum of sensitivity to inform his family before you leave. Or at least reply to his father's plea when he was asking about how his son was doing. Who the hell leaves a person in that fragile a state and then blocks them! Esp knowing how dependent that person is on you now since he had already become quite estranged with his own family, friends since you entered the picture. You change his entire ecosystem and leave him in a lurch yet his family is supposed to be "understanding"....wow.

Now coming to his family....It was them who stood by him till the end. What is this notion of denial of depression! Hell they weren't even kept in the loop about the treatment he was being given. It's his family he made SOS calls to and it's them who were there by his side as and when he reached out. They were the ones who raised several red flags here. I dig how his family is being painted as a regressive lot who are in denial about his mental health and are seeking some kind of revenge just because they apparently didn't like his girlfriend. The same family who didn't have an issue with his previous girlfriends! The same family who didn't have an issue with him choosing the career he did even though he left a so called secure line. The same family who brought him up so much love, care and affection, who taught him so much of what he knew is now being blamed for not being there. Bravo! They were the only ones there. They cared to the degree that despite them being alienated from him for a period of time, they kept trying to reach him, to make him understand what he was dealing with.

So many here seem to care about mental health yet the same people refuse to acknowledge the factors that could have impacted his mental health. Please read about what toxic relationships can do to your mental health. This was one. The loved ones of those who are stuck in such relationships can at times try their best to do what they can in such circumstances yet are unable to make much progress because such relationships can suck you in in a way where you lose your sense of what is healthy and what isn't. The relationship which Sushant was in was abusive. Nobody would be hesitating to throw that word around had a woman been at the receiving end of that abuse because that's the norm. But exceptions exist.

This 🥳

Why it's so hard for some people to believe that a depressed person can be MURDERED too? Why!?! At present, we don't even know either he was truly depressed or it was medicine induced depression!!

Originally posted by: DushtKanya

If Kareena's caption implies what I'm thinking, I'm officially a fan 😂

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEGbBiZp6Zc/?igshid=3ktqx5hsfo18

Comments from Amrita and Malaika indicated that only. Even I thought same seeing her caption!!

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1296400323544662016?s=19

😆

Originally posted by: fosla

Hey, thanks for your response. This is not the first time we are seeing mob mentality and you are absolutely right that in this day, the country is witnessing more of it. The only difference being it was more of anti national (famous in the last 8 years) than ever who usually take the brunt of it. While there are genuine fans who are unable to overcome the loss of their idol, there is no denial that the blood thirsty mob that directs attention to the hashtag is actively driving the narrative. The likes of Arnab and other peddlers yelling at their screens for a war against person/ their favorite neighboring country have been targeting every possible person with their own vendetta.

It’s difficult for neutral viewers, I would like to believe I am one, as I have not had a passionate liking or a strong dislike for SSR, to watch this charade and believe that this whole blood thirsty mob that went after Bollywood initially then pivoting to MH Govt(no prizes for guessing why an anchor who was interrogated for hours by the same state police) , the MH police, critics and blind writers and then settled on apparently the famous gold digger girlfriend! Not an ounce of lack of respect to all those who were bulldozed in the name of suspects by those with an agenda of nepotism hatred, self-serving witnesses of justice who have even mostly not met or spend time with SSR. While fans might want to believe that all means are fair as long as they are getting their justice ( such a farce term esp with the man is literally dead), it is hard to see them trampling so many with their social media warrior ship for having an opinion not as strongly supportive of theirs. Innocent bystanders over conspiracy theories is not everyone’s cup of tea. That’s why even after being in IF for years, I am posting today.

With respect to toxic relationships, this is now he- must-have-felt vs she-apparently-said! SSR did not end up with Riya as the first choice of girl friend! With a history of having a long term relationship that he willingly broke up with, this man was not new to the concept of relationship. Heck, he broke the woman’s heart over Bollywood and the same mob went after him after ambitions and philandering ways. So, I completely disagree that his history doesn’t show him as a needy person for a relationship. Case in point would also be Kriti who after all rumors didn’t accept their relationship but also posted that she was pushed out of his life by wait for it... SSR himself! Given all of this witnessed when SSR and his girlfriends were able to speak for themselves, it is very believable that the man made a choice to be with Riya; for whatever reasons he believed was right for him. We have the man dead, who cannot speak for his relationship so the circumstantial evidence will have to decide that this was abusive as whatever the Girlfriend says will be damned. So, no it’s not work feminism to defend, all neutral folks would like to see is a woman not dragged on the streets and pronouced guilty in newsrooms and social media and wait for law to run its course. Guilty, until proven would be the least they could owe. Not too much to ask now the CBI investigation is applied.

with respect to Rhea’s responsibility to be with SSR in his last days, heck how do we even know or expected her to know that he would be committing suicide in a week. Not everybody can stomach the requirements of a healthy individual for continuing a relationship and in this case, there is enough evidence of the mental health doctor whom she apparently took him for visits to keep him sane. If SSR continued to live, we would have not considered his yet another break up with some other reason like his history. So don’t give that woman an award for taking him to the doc, but don’t hold her accountable for not picking up his call. Because in relationships, people need a break! Everything that happened with them could be a toxic relationship or a relationship that went wrong. To blame it one person is the most disservice to divert the attention from the issues that SSR possibly had.

The family supporting his career ambitions. Providing a safe haven for loving family is a pre requisite for all normal household. I am not putting a drivel that they are the ones who pushed him to suicide! Not will I claim that they are gold diggers to now claim the wealth coz Then I will sound definitely like the mob :-) The lack of ownership by the overzealous need to blame the girlfriend in their efforts to have tried to reach him is no excuse! Especially when they were 2 hours away by flight. What struck me first when this whole suicide news broke out was reading about dad being repeatedly requested by SSR was frightening. If my child was seeing a mental health professional for 7 months and was also screaming for help, I would believe given their support of his ambitions, they would have wanted to be on the first flight to protect him. This is what makes me hard to take the family’s fight for justice against Riya as the moral compass is very low on that one

Depression is real. Covid-19 and isolation are incrementally pushing folks with mental health issues into a deeper ditch given the lack of social interactions. We can choose the convenient toxic abusive relationship because the man ain’t there to confirm what happened and a stigma of mental health will somehow ink the perfect idol that the justice is working hard for. Or we can choose to accept that there must be more than one reason for a person suffering from depression, including the lack of family not being there when he needed most, one who posted his mother’s pic on his social media must have been having a hard time processing his life with his emotions, making that one vulnerable mistake which is now hounding every possible person that he chose to cross paths with. And Wait on it till the dots are connected to showcase the actual cause of the death.
i can bet on it that the end of this charade, activist will be disappointed if their favorite person on the dartboard is not pronounced guilty and the same central government and CBI will be held for not providing the justice that was convenient to believe.

Thank you. This is the first post I'm reading from your side of the street that makes sense. 😊

I would only request you to not call us "blood thirsty mob". Not all of us are out to "lynch" people.

The actions of some trolls, involvement of politicians, TRP hungry reporters or self-centered celebrities should not be allowed to drown out the saner voices. In a leaderless movement like this, one person cannot control the entire narrative, and must only speak for himself/herself.

Admittedly you're a neutral viewer and were not really impacted deeply by SSR's demise. So you have NO idea of the pain many of us have gone through and are going through.

You have as much of a right to question the family as we have to question Rhea (again not everyone is lynching her. Less so here in IF). Based on the facts that have come out in the public domain, including the expose by the professional therapist etc etc, many of us are inclined to believe the family over Rhea.

Again, when thinking about this event, my only request to you would be to not generalize us. Appreciate you dropping in!

Originally posted by: LoveAnny

Comments from Amrita and Malaika indicated that only. Even I thought same seeing her caption!!

Ya, the verified comments does look like it's what we think it means😆

But whatever , nice caption really😆