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Originally posted by: sensodynee

He always looked for acceptance from the people whom he liked and it didn't bother at times if he got double love from his loved ones. If he liked someone then he did everything to gain their attention.

Oh gosh Nisha, the amount of times we used to go in circles discussing this exact thing. The memories! Goodness we used to be livid sometimes when he would go running after people who obviously didn't care about him, and then would ignore those who were there all along. It was a constant theme, wasn't it? Kya baat hai, barson purani yaadein taaza ho gayi. 😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL then I will sound even more insensitive to you when I say that I’m quite over this pity party/martyrdom mode that people have developed about everything related to Sushant. The more people do crap like this, the more detached I feel from the whole tragedy now.

I guess I’ve compartmentalized it now and can view DB as a stand alone movie rather than some gratuitous eulogy to Sushant as a martyr. It also makes me laugh that people are interpreting every random scene as some secret code from Sushant telling them how depressed he was. It’s gone way overboard. Basically it tells us how hungry people always are for conspiracy theories and can’t accept factual truths even in front of their eyes.
Sushant killed himself. Didn’t give a reason. You’re not going to get a reason. End of story. He’s gone. Baat khatam. Enjoy his movies and stop fixating on him like some bechara martyr guide. I also am finding it funny that people have started quoting his philosophical posts like some kind of gospel gyaan in life. Swami Vivekanand banaa rahe hain usko 😕😆

Can I join the insensitivity party? Though I have worked through the big waves of feelings and ~forgiven~ and gotten over my resentment... I am realizing that despite all of that I still don't actually like him lol. That ended in early 2016 and it isn't coming back now. I have been able to regain my sense of empathy toward him for the difficulties he may have faced, but I have also come to the conclusion that there is no redemption arc here and there will never be one. I get a little emosanal when I see old sushita things I had forgotten about (and I think that will just always be a soft spot because I automatically connect it to happier days), but I am getting better about snapping myself out of it after I come on here and cry about whatever made me nostalgic (which is just about everything they did together lol).

If it's honesty hour then I thought he was overacting in the bits I saw of the DB trailer and I have no plans to watch it. I haven't even listened to the music. I read the book TFIOS forever ago and have no interest in watching a movie version. My mom is trying to get me to watch it because she is totally swept up in this tamasha, but y'all... my mom watches ALL of the conspiracy theory videos and is now totally hooked on the Arnab Goswami debate series... someone come save me.

Omg "bechara martyr guide" and "gospel gyaan" LOL. It is interesting to see the resistance (beyond the initial shock) people have had to accepting that he was in the end a normal person with his own faults and struggles who ended his life with suicide. I cringe every time I read something about how he was too good for this world. The whole genius philosophical scientist thing is just... yikes. People have taken all of the phenku things he used to say as veracious and now his list of accomplishments from the age of 18-22 is over a mile long. Sure he was talented and generally smart and it's sad his life ended as a tragedy, but he was also a regular dude who did regular things and made plenty of mistakes along the way.

I do think conversations around mental health and undue targeting within the industry are important, but it has all gone sooo far off the rails. I don't think it is ever going to get back on track either. I am looking forward to the next big event (non-tragic/non-destructive) that will capture the collective conscience so we can stop with all of this...

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

Boy oh boy, I can promise you I did not think long and hard about any of this. Certainly not on this level. Also not sure how I feel about being called a Sushant fan. 😆 I thought I got to count as a #hater now. I am even in the elite group of people who are blocked on twitter forever. And if y'all knew the thoughts I had about him in my head I really don't think you would call me that lol.

If I'm being for real, I read anything related to this whole fiasco with a very self-serving attitude. At some point I have to admit that when it comes to Sushant and Ankita I am just nosy and invasive and like collecting information. I don't know what I will ever do with this information, especially now, but that part of me refuses to quit. So when I read anything that hasn't been written out before, particularly when it coincides with my own thoughts, I become interested. I felt similarly with Vikas Gupta's post. I pretty much ignore who is delivering the info because at this point... I don't care lol.

When it comes to Kangana I can honestly say I don't know much about her or her history. I try to give most people the benefit of the doubt and think back to how completely misunderstood my own favorites were at one time. Also, with this article I didn't read it as her painting him as a bechaara, but maybe that's because I refuse to ever see him that way? And I didn't believe the "intellectual" line at all, as I pick and choose the parts I want to believe as per my convenience lol. But I will certainly consider what you have written if I ever read more from her.

If I am coming across as a manipulated fan requiring validation then I really need to reconsider the way I write on here lol. I know I have a flair for the dramatic and mostly only come online when I'm in my feelings, but that line was definitely a wake up call!

LOL TB....I didn't mean a Sushant fan in that way....perhaps my choice of words was wrong too. I was just saying that it sounded like you connected with KR's description of him and it validated what you had also perceived.....and my only concern was that her saying all this seemed like it was clearly picked up from fan discussions and being stated to manipulate the emotions of fans....she has done this in the past with other controversies also - she picks a viewpoint based on scouting various online discussions and then tries to position herself as some "all knowing messiah". I've seen other people fall prey to her manipulations and lies, so I just responded with regards to that.

The situation with all this tamasha over Sushant's death has just become so messed up, I guess I have limited to no patience with con-artists like her trying to pretend like she cares for any of this. It's like watching another Trump....lol and I guess after 4 years, I have even less tolerance for such con artists.

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

If it's honesty hour then I thought he was overacting in the bits I saw of the DB trailer and I have no plans to watch it. I haven't even listened to the music. I read the book TFIOS forever ago and have no interest in watching a movie version. My mom is trying to get me to watch it because she is totally swept up in this tamasha, but y'all... my mom watches ALL of the conspiracy theory videos and is now totally hooked on the Arnab Goswami debate series... someone come save me.

Omg "bechara martyr guide" and "gospel gyaan" LOL. It is interesting to see the resistance (beyond the initial shock) people have had to accepting that he was in the end a normal person with his own faults and struggles who ended his life with suicide. I cringe every time I read something about how he was too good for this world. The whole genius philosophical scientist thing is just... yikes. People have taken all of the phenku things he used to say as veracious and now his list of accomplishments from the age of 18-22 is over a mile long. Sure he was talented and generally smart and it's sad his life ended as a tragedy, but he was also a regular dude who did regular things and made plenty of mistakes along the way.

I do think conversations around mental health and undue targeting within the industry are important, but it has all gone sooo far off the rails. I don't think it is ever going to get back on track either. I am looking forward to the next big event (non-tragic/non-destructive) that will capture the collective conscience so we can stop with all of this...

LOL good to know I'm not the only 'insensitive' one around here then....it's really gotten too ridiculous, man😆....matlab all this Sushant SIR stuff going on - too much hai. He is not some fallen saint that so many people are trying to make him out to be. The funniest stuff I read is people crying over "Oh why didn't I watch his movies when he was alive....oh he was such a gem....oh he was too intelligent for this world" yada yada....matlab the whole discussion has totally gone off the rails. These people who didn't have a clue about his career or his personality until his death are now experts in all his history and guilt tripping over some delusional inflated image of him in their heads. 😕

LOLL@ your mom being all into the conspiracy theories too🤣....My heartfelt sympathies....It actually is sobering in some ways to see how quickly these made up theories spread and prey on people's emotions to make them start jumping on the bandwagon.

Re: DB....lol I tried watching it yesterday....Sadly, it's a colossal BORE of a movie....I couldn't manage to get past 20 minutes and had to pause it. Sushant is mostly playing himself in the movie....a quirky goofball, flirting around, trying to do SRK impressions, filmy nautanki. It's just the cancer angle that makes it different. I've read and watched TFIOS and this movie sadly doesn't manage to capture the emotional quotient of that story. This one's a total disjointed mess....there is no chemistry between the leads and the friendship/love story just starts very randomly.....pata nahin chalta when they are supposedly "in love"😕😆.....they haven't done justice to the ARR songs either.

Maybe there is something wrong with me that I can't view this movie as some kind of tearfest simply because it's Sushant's last movie....the movie itself is just so blahh, it takes away any potential to allow someone to feel for Sushant's passing in this context. I feel like we already mourned his passing and didn't need this movie to give us a "way" to mourn.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL then I will sound even more insensitive to you when I say that I’m quite over this pity party/martyrdom mode that people have developed about everything related to Sushant. The more people do crap like this, the more detached I feel from the whole tragedy now.

I guess I’ve compartmentalized it now and can view DB as a stand alone movie rather than some gratuitous eulogy to Sushant as a martyr. It also makes me laugh that people are interpreting every random scene as some secret code from Sushant telling them how depressed he was. It’s gone way overboard. Basically it tells us how hungry people always are for conspiracy theories and can’t accept factual truths even in front of their eyes.

Sushant killed himself. Didn’t give a reason. You’re not going to get a reason. End of story. He’s gone. Baat khatam. Enjoy his movies and stop fixating on him like some bechara martyr guide. I also am finding it funny that people have started quoting his philosophical posts like some kind of gospel gyaan in life. Swami Vivekanand banaa rahe hain usko 😕😆

Anuji you are not at all alone. I have been part of it from quiet some time and reason is same set of people. I just thought I was being insensitive laughing when people are crying with those kind of proofs, I was like am I being insensitive in not understanding, but then I can't help myself and not laugh. lol

@Bold: Sorry, wrong very wrong he is not another Swami Vivekanand rather he is first ever Sushant Singh Rajput baba and I'm looking forward for a temple in his name.

Some of messages praising him or depicting his tweets and all makes my head spin my head right round.

Originally posted by: toothbrush13

Oh gosh Nisha, the amount of times we used to go in circles discussing this exact thing. The memories! Goodness we used to be livid sometimes when he would go running after people who obviously didn't care about him, and then would ignore those who were there all along. It was a constant theme, wasn't it? Kya baat hai, barson purani yaadein taaza ho gayi. 😆

Those days, were days! I and Niki also use to dwell on his career so much. 😆 Other day I was feeling guilt for moving on, but then I realized I have gained more from knowing him/her/them so only probably I'm not feeling weird for moving on. If I hadn't been to IF I would have never known so many amazing people and learnt things some times by interacting and at times by reading their posts. If it wasn't you and Tanyadi I would have never learnt to appreciate or like Ankita. So I'm gonna remember it rather than feeling sad and now with him gone I have no resent also neither I want know any answers regarding them or him.

I only wish people had more debate on depression and favoritism/nepotism which happens in industry but everyone wants to keep themselves engage in weird manner like this.

Let him rest in peace now atleast because whatever decision he took in last days wouldn't have been easy for him and now neither it is for his nearer ones.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL TB....I didn't mean a Sushant fan in that way....perhaps my choice of words was wrong too. I was just saying that it sounded like you connected with KR's description of him and it validated what you had also perceived.....and my only concern was that her saying all this seemed like it was clearly picked up from fan discussions and being stated to manipulate the emotions of fans....she has done this in the past with other controversies also - she picks a viewpoint based on scouting various online discussions and then tries to position herself as some "all knowing messiah". I've seen other people fall prey to her manipulations and lies, so I just responded with regards to that.

The situation with all this tamasha over Sushant's death has just become so messed up, I guess I have limited to no patience with con-artists like her trying to pretend like she cares for any of this. It's like watching another Trump....lol and I guess after 4 years, I have even less tolerance for such con artists.

@bold , Here, what she has done is throw in 3-4 people's names, saying she has spoken to them - and also mention 3-4 different timelines. So, you are not sure who said to her what and when and how much. Plus all the embellishments (which forms the bulk of the self serving part..)

It is like how, you know , some feel that lying by omission isn't technically lying. So, the same way, she tells a raita of things, and she is probably, not making everything up, but not being truthful about a lot of things either.

Aisa hi chalta raha toh, the gine chune log who still talk to her , will stop.

Coming to the Sushant bit, it is just how I read him a long time ago. There have been some things about him and what's happened with him that I haven't changed my mind about just because of the tragedy , nor felt more sure about, just because of what kangana is saying.

I also feel like, till what happened with Sushant is not delinked from the whole "taking a stand against the unethical practices in bwood" cause - the movement or whatever you wanna call it is already scuttled.

I am tired with the whole "introvert/misunderstood genius/philosopher" narrative. But I guess that somewhere, since the past 5 years, he just decided to shut out the other parts of his personality while interacting with certain sets of people in the hope that he gets a foot into the door of whichever hallowed circle that he wanted to get into .. and that just stuck.

It is a lot more comforting to go back to when I connected to him the most.. be it the whole tv phase, dancing phase, or even some of the movies phase. Especially since it also brings back good memories of my fangirling phase😔

Originally posted by: lunza

I am tired with the whole "introvert/misunderstood genius/philosopher" narrative. But I guess that somewhere, since the past 5 years, he just decided to shut out the other parts of his personality while interacting with certain sets of people in the hope that he gets a foot into the door of whichever hallowed circle that he wanted to get into .. and that just stuck.

It is a lot more comforting to go back to when I connected to him the most.. be it the whole tv phase, dancing phase, or even some of the movies phase. Especially since it also brings back good memories of my fangirling phase😔

I find it so amusing that people don't talk about his love for dance, rather it is more about bolder things. It is so much hard to connect with that Sushant few are talking about, it is like for 7-8 years of Sushant we knew seems like different person altogether.

Some old sushita pic vm a fan made. If you guys want to see

https://www.instagram.com/p/CC-nqkHhOsb/?igshid=r7j1wx5lq28v

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDEzm0hpjwq/?igshid=17lbvrdcjnch2