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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Yes Dushy's son killed Abhimanyu but he hasn't been named


Till date we don't know the name of Abhimanyu's killer☺️


FP behen, why are you blushing?😆

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

But the children of the infamous 4 also were defeated so the punishment is to the entire family always

Coz they fought on the wrong side.

That's absolutely no justification why people on the side of dharma should get away with sins. He should have been forsaken or his right to the throne taken away.

He was allowed to sit on the throne and that gives me a high bp😆 also another reason I prefer Ramayan. Ram had to pay for his silent consent to Sitas repeated insult. She left him.

Edited by Armu4eva - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: naq5

if uppandavas were adopted that dosent mean Abhimanyu was adopted too. he is said to be having born to arjun & subhadra. If you mean to say draupadi adopted arjun and subhadras child why would subhadra give away her only son.😕 yudi would have to adopt him too then. If he mentioned as yudis son ever

if abhimanyu was teaching his brothers wouldnt that make him older to them


Not a single place it is mentioned Yudi adopted Abhimanyu , adoption comes under king's right not queen . Yudi never said Abhimanyu his heir , he is out of question only. Draupadi dong have any say in adoption , so her opinion don't matter in this case.


Vyas who described Panchali's beauty in detail ,do u really think he will not inform if Panchali was incapable of bearing kid .


Arjun & subhadra will not part with their child & 4 whom they part , they don't owe anything to anyone.


Even krishna has nothing 2 say in this coz panchal will not agree 2 it.

Edited by deepikagupta9 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9


Not a single place it is mentioned Yudi adopted Abhimanyu , adoption comes under king's right not queen . Yudi never said Abhimanyu his heir , he is out of question only. Draupadi dong have any say in adoption , so her opinion don't matter in this case.


Vyas who described Panchali's beauty in detail ,do u really think he will not inform if Panchali was incapable of bearing kid .


Arjun & subhadra will not part with their child & 4 whom they part , they don't awe anything to anyone.


@Bold. Sadly, all evidence points she did. Bottomline: Pandavas had no money of their own. It was all hers. With Subhadra came another injection of wealth, giving KRISHNA influence. Arjuna's imperial campaign came after Abhimanyu's birth; this earned them more money.


@Red. Vyasa especially WOULDN'T mention if she were incapable of bearing a kid. No matter how society was supposed to be all liberal when it came to polyandry, society was quite orthodox when it came to women unable to have children.


@Blue. Even when the throne was promised? Highly doubt it. Then again, adoption as heir is diff from adoption as son.

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Crux of all the problem in admitting Abhimanyu WAS, in fact, heir, is that then the same peeps would have to admit a major so-called proof of polyandry is nonexistent. ie, her supposed children with Pandavas.

Edited by HearMeRoar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

The timing has been changed? Oh man, I have office till 6.30😭😭😭

https://twitter.com/mahabharatxsp/status/1286909991178268673?s=09

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: naq5

ok got it mixed up

but it was dushy's son who killed abhimanyu right. i forget his name though


His name was Durmasana

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar


@Bold. Sadly, all evidence points she did. Bottomline: Pandavas had no money of their own. It was all hers. With Subhadra came another injection of wealth, giving KRISHNA influence. Arjuna's imperial campaign came after Abhimanyu's birth; this earned them more money.


@Red. Vyasa especially WOULDN'T mention if she were incapable of bearing a kid. No matter how society was supposed to be all liberal when it came to polyandry, society was quite orthodox when it came to women unable to have children.


@Blue. Even when the throne was promised? Highly doubt it. Then again, adoption as heir is diff from adoption as son.

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Crux of all the problem in admitting Abhimanyu WAS, in fact, heir, is that then the same peeps would have to admit a major so-called proof of polyandry is nonexistent. ie, her supposed children with Pandavas.


Can u help me with a citation which say Krishna or draupadi propose adoption of Abhimanyu as heir , which I read only said by satyaki.


Coz I m sure prativindhya was elder than Abhimanyu coz no way Yudi will wait 4 heir.


Thou I agree with u regarding Draupadi child bearing thing .


I agree panchal & krishna helping Pandavas financially .


If Krishna wanted his sister's son heir , so he would had made Subhadra marry Yudi not arjun . Krishna was well aware arjun was not king .


Marrying his sister to arjun & then demanding his nephew to be heir , it don't make sense only . Yudi was not impotent .

Edited by deepikagupta9 - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

I don't think so, Draupadi can't bear children. If she can't, Pandavas had to marry for having heir. Because for a king, you need to have heir as earliest as possible. Abhimanyu can't be older than Upapandavas. The Pandavas obviously won't wait for Arjuna to have a children. Because it was necessary to provide their kingdom a heir.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Andy3456

I don't think so, Draupadi can't bear children. If she can't, Pandavas had to marry for having heir. Because for a king, you need to have heir as earliest as possible. Abhimanyu can't be older than Upapandavas. The Pandavas obviously won't wait for Arjuna to have a children. Because it was necessary to provide their kingdom a heir.


Ya even I believe this.


Pandavas with draupadi stayed in kampilya nearby 1 yr


Indraprastha took nearby 5 yrs to get build


Arjun exile 12 months , some say 12 yrs. I m considering 12 month exile.


Arjun married subhadra end of his exile ,do Abhimanyu birth may had happened within 2 yrs of marriage


1 + 5 +1 = 7


Why will king Yudi wait 4 nearby 7 yrs for a heir .


King has 2 provide heir asap. May sahdev informed him arjun will provide u a heir , so he was waiting.


Anyhow prativindhya definitely was elder than Abhimanyu.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9


Ya even I believe this.


Pandavas with draupadi stayed in kampilya nearby 1 yr


Indraprastha took nearby 5 yrs to get build


Arjun exile 12 months , some say 12 yrs. I m considering 12 month exile.


Arjun married subhadra end of his exile ,do Abhimanyu birth may had happened within 2 yrs of marriage


1 + 5 +1 = 7


Why will king Yudi wait 4 nearby 7 yrs for a heir .


King has 2 provide heir asap. May sahdev informed him arjun will provide u a heir , so he was waiting.


Anyhow prativindhya definitely was elder than Abhimanyu.


But Subhadra wasn't even chief queen that her son will be heir (if his brothers are alive). Only if there were no brothers, he would be the clear . He can be CIC as his father.

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