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Posted: 5 years ago
#31

We have this, guilty until proven innocent thing, when it should he otherwise.


And people are now being sympathetic and unanimously supporting Sushant because he is no more. Otherwise even after Sanjana replied, people didn't believe it, because of a blind earlier saying Sanjana was forced by Mukesh.


I said it that time, and I am saying it today, metoo accusations created a circus with her word and his word scenarios. Zoinks/shreya/liveloveeat that time said it that paid promotions of that blind, made it fishy, but apart few SSR fans nobody took their post seriously , where rather busy venting and liking posts against Sushant. Even after Sanjana clarified, people were suspicious. And I don't blame them, forum is filled with females, and if they hear about another female being harassed, it is normal for them to be angry against that person.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

You do realize that even molesters/rapists families seldom realize what they are capable of? No one can make a claim with certainty about who is capable of what, irrespective of how close they are to him/her

You think people who worked with Shiny Ahuja knew what he was capable of? unless you were there, unless you know with absolute surity, it is better to keep quiet and let the truth come out if you aren't related to the incident

Disclaimer: I am not calling Sushant a molester or rapist or comparing him to one.. I am just using the terms as an example k no one can give a character certificate to another

I repeat, how do you know they weren't there for him when he was battling depression? Maybe they were.. maybe they tried hard.. mAybe they did everything they could.. point is, we don't know

It's not a problem in just a particular society.. it's a problem every where


On bold. Yes, nobody can make a claim without knowing anything. But if they had evidence that he was targeted, someone should have stood for him.


Let me present you the case with the dates.


https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/bollywood/sanjana-sanghi-sexually-molested-later-silenced-by-sushant-singh-rajput-and-mukesh-chabbra-two-months-ago/ar-BBOysb7


This article is dated 19th October. But it must have been published by some other site before 18th October, as there is a discussion on it in IF on 18th October.

Article says that drunk Sushant misbehaved with Sanjana Sanghi on sets. Sanjana broke down on the sets and left. Her parents came to set, but the director threatened them. The article continues and says, director then asked Sushant to donate to Kerala flood for damage-control and create good will (It shades his good work).

If such a thing has happened on sets, there must have been witnesses. If nobody had witnessed it, at least some should have stood for him.


Sanjana did not issue any statement during this period. After a day or two of harassment, Sushant released the screenshots of his chat history with with Sanjana (thank god, he had not deleted them).


He shared this on 19th October. ("..I feel sad to reveal personal information but it seems that there is no other way to state what was, in the midst of this curated and well timed smear campaign. From the first till the last day of the shoot, this is what happened on the Set with Sanjana.." and follows it up with the screenshots).


It contains messages exchanged between them during July and Aug 2018 (the the period that drunken incident should have taken place, according to allegation)


https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/sushant-singh-rajput-sexually-harass-sanjana-sanghi-denies-allegations-1371013-2018-10-19

It only showed a normal chat between friends and colleagues.

In one chat, Sushant has written, "Hey just wanted to tell you that despite of everything that's so not conducive for actors on set, what you're doing is nothing short of f***ing epic. Good going girl." Sanjana responding to the message, "A whole lot of non conducive conditions, yes. Thank you so much Immanuel."

The chat did not show any hint of molestation.

On 23rd of October, Sanjana issued clarification.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/metoo-sanjana-sanghi-defends-sushant-singh-rajput-claims-he-never-misbehaved-with-her/articleshow/66333758.cms

There was not much choice left for her. (Or she had to say, she was molested. But she was just pally with her molestor). Question remains, why she took that long to clear his name. Would she have issued clarification, if Sushant had not produced evidence. Why his industry friends (if he had any) remained silent even afterwards, as if he was guilty.

I am not saying, his suicide was due to that. But it was a fact that, Sushant was targeted.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I never knew that those blinds or sufferings of sushant even existed.I wasn't aware..I always had a opinion that he is doing good in his trade! I never cared for him. I never had any one of this opinions or love or dislike for SSR or any of the nepokids..but after his death and after reading through articles and not opinions I got to know the real side of these people!

What a shame!! What a low life! What a sinful money that goes into thier locker..with what and how they are earning..with the show of gym workouts onscreen & talent slaughtering behind the screen is actually happening..

But will they change! No because that's in thier blood,in thier Gene's...that's what and where thier money will take them..they were the most unhappy,sinful souls who could never find peace even in thier graves because they are today in someone's place..not just them every person who does that will suffer without even understanding what got them this!

To be honest bollywood roots for nothing but a garbage full of wasted western lifestyle..If we tame a deep look into thier films right from dressing to the concept most of the film preaches the wrecking side of western culture as a cool way of living! The stars these people celebrate are assholes with zero sense....

Either they are remorseful & so even the angry public are! This might stop now but will resurface once again when another life is gone in an unnatural way & I am sure it will happen...

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p


On bold. Yes, nobody can make a claim without knowing anything. But if they had evidence that he was targeted, someone should have stood for him.


Let me present you the case with the dates.


https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/bollywood/sanjana-sanghi-sexually-molested-later-silenced-by-sushant-singh-rajput-and-mukesh-chabbra-two-months-ago/ar-BBOysb7


This article is dated 19th October. But it must have been published by some other site before 18th October, as there is a discussion on it in IF on 18th October.

Article says that drunk Sushant misbehaved with Sanjana Sanghi on sets. Sanjana broke down on the sets and left. Her parents came to set, but the director threatened them. The article continues and says, director then asked Sushant to donate to Kerala flood for damage-control and create good will (It shades his good work).

If such a thing has happened on sets, there must have been witnesses. If nobody had witnessed it, at least some should have stood for him.


Sanjana did not issue any statement during this period. After a day or two of harassment, Sushant released the screenshots of his chat history with with Sanjana (thank god, he had not deleted them).


He shared this on 19th October. ("..I feel sad to reveal personal information but it seems that there is no other way to state what was, in the midst of this curated and well timed smear campaign. From the first till the last day of the shoot, this is what happened on the Set with Sanjana.." and follows it up with the screenshots).


It contains messages exchanged between them during July and Aug 2018 (the the period that drunken incident should have taken place, according to allegation)


https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/sushant-singh-rajput-sexually-harass-sanjana-sanghi-denies-allegations-1371013-2018-10-19

It only showed a normal chat between friends and colleagues.

In one chat, Sushant has written, "Hey just wanted to tell you that despite of everything that's so not conducive for actors on set, what you're doing is nothing short of f***ing epic. Good going girl." Sanjana responding to the message, "A whole lot of non conducive conditions, yes. Thank you so much Immanuel."

The chat did not show any hint of molestation.

On 23rd of October, Sanjana issued clarification.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/metoo-sanjana-sanghi-defends-sushant-singh-rajput-claims-he-never-misbehaved-with-her/articleshow/66333758.cms

There was not much choice left for her. (Or she had to say, she was molested. But she was just pally with her molestor). Question remains, why she took that long to clear his name. Would she have issued clarification, if Sushant had not produced evidence. Why his industry friends (if he had any) remained silent even afterwards, as if he was guilty.

I am not saying, his suicide was due to that. But it was a fact that, Sushant was targeted.


Thank you for making this post. This is exactly my point. No one came after fake blinds, no one bursted out at the journalists. I was not aware of that rumor til this year. And the comments people made at IF was so hurtful. Members saying oh this is why he donated 1 crore to cover his image. 🥀💔 heartless and hurtful comments


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Posted: 5 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: RegressiveThug

I said it that time, and I am saying it today, metoo accusations created a circus with her word and his word scenarios. Zoinks/shreya/liveloveeat that time said it that paid promotions of that blind, made it fishy, but apart few SSR fans nobody took their post seriously , where rather busy venting and liking posts against Sushant. Even after Sanjana clarified, people were suspicious. And I don't blame them, forum is filled with females, and if they hear about another female being harassed, it is normal for them to be angry against that person.


Another reason I feel (anger in this forum) is because of Pavitra Rishta fans. These fans had shipped Sushant with Ankita. For them, Sushant dumped Ankita because he tasted success. Overnight, his fans became his haters. They could gladly accept he is a womaniser.


I have not watched this serial. I saw Sushant and Ankita in a dance reality show. I felt Ankita had attitude and Sushant seemed grounded. I may be right or wrong. I have not followed this couple. But I cannot understand these fans' obsession. I have seen their frustration even after his death. (If Ankita was there, she would have never let it happen.. etc).


Are yaar, Pavitra Rishta is just the the name of a serial. Why do you associate it with their relationship? They were ordinary couples. Yes, break up happens in real lives. So many TV couples break up even after marriage. What exactly was the problem here? Break up or Sushant's success?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p


Another reason I feel (anger in this forum) is because of Pavitra Rishta fans. These fans had shipped Sushant with Ankita. For them, Sushant dumped Ankita because he tasted success. Overnight, his fans became his haters. They could gladly accept he is a womaniser.


I have not watched this serial. I saw Sushant and Ankita in a dance reality show. I felt Ankita had attitude and Sushant seemed grounded. I may be right or wrong. I have not followed this couple. But I cannot understand these fans' obsession. I have seen their frustration even after his death. (If Ankita was there, she would have never let it happen.. etc).


Are yaar, Pavitra Rishta is just the the name of a serial. Why do you associate it with their relationship? They were ordinary couples. Yes, break up happens in real lives. So many TV couples break up even after marriage. What exactly was the problem here? Break up or Sushant's success?


some Avantika fans are still bitter. They aren't coming with full claws because fearing backlash, one two years later, you will see the true opinions.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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As I think back and recall , there were significant number of metoo blinds pointing Sushant, significant enough to affect reader's subconscious to build narrative against him. Personally, It was surprising as I never thought he would stoop so low to be accused of meetoo from his aura.


Wasn't his fan as such, from neutral light , at one point i did belief that he became arrogant after his success and my judgement was merely based on other barrage of blinds signifying so. But most damaging would have been meetoo blinds especially if someone is accused falsely. One could only feel impact it would have on him , if this disturbed him enough to succumb to vileness.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: flipfl0p


On bold. Yes, nobody can make a claim without knowing anything. But if they had evidence that he was targeted, someone should have stood for him.


Let me present you the case with the dates.


https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/bollywood/sanjana-sanghi-sexually-molested-later-silenced-by-sushant-singh-rajput-and-mukesh-chabbra-two-months-ago/ar-BBOysb7


This article is dated 19th October. But it must have been published by some other site before 18th October, as there is a discussion on it in IF on 18th October.

Article says that drunk Sushant misbehaved with Sanjana Sanghi on sets. Sanjana broke down on the sets and left. Her parents came to set, but the director threatened them. The article continues and says, director then asked Sushant to donate to Kerala flood for damage-control and create good will (It shades his good work).

If such a thing has happened on sets, there must have been witnesses. If nobody had witnessed it, at least some should have stood for him.


Sanjana did not issue any statement during this period. After a day or two of harassment, Sushant released the screenshots of his chat history with with Sanjana (thank god, he had not deleted them).


He shared this on 19th October. ("..I feel sad to reveal personal information but it seems that there is no other way to state what was, in the midst of this curated and well timed smear campaign. From the first till the last day of the shoot, this is what happened on the Set with Sanjana.." and follows it up with the screenshots).


It contains messages exchanged between them during July and Aug 2018 (the the period that drunken incident should have taken place, according to allegation)


https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/sushant-singh-rajput-sexually-harass-sanjana-sanghi-denies-allegations-1371013-2018-10-19

It only showed a normal chat between friends and colleagues.

In one chat, Sushant has written, "Hey just wanted to tell you that despite of everything that's so not conducive for actors on set, what you're doing is nothing short of f***ing epic. Good going girl." Sanjana responding to the message, "A whole lot of non conducive conditions, yes. Thank you so much Immanuel."

The chat did not show any hint of molestation.

On 23rd of October, Sanjana issued clarification.

https://mumbaimirror.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/metoo-sanjana-sanghi-defends-sushant-singh-rajput-claims-he-never-misbehaved-with-her/articleshow/66333758.cms

There was not much choice left for her. (Or she had to say, she was molested. But she was just pally with her molestor). Question remains, why she took that long to clear his name. Would she have issued clarification, if Sushant had not produced evidence. Why his industry friends (if he had any) remained silent even afterwards, as if he was guilty.

I am not saying, his suicide was due to that. But it was a fact that, Sushant was targeted.

But that's what I said.. that only people on the sets could verify whatever happened or did not happen for that matter.. so they could have spoken up.. not the people who weren't there

Most people tried to keep themselves distanced from anything to do with Me too controversy because it was like a ticking time bomb at the time.. so it's not really shocking or out of the ordinary that no one was willing to speak on it

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Why would people who have no association with the movie or Sushant or Sanjana speak up about the #metoo accusation? They don't know anything about the situation so why will they speak up on things that have no connection to them?

People have their own lives to live and own problems to deal with.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

But that's what I said.. that only people on the sets could verify whatever happened or did not happen for that matter.. so they could have spoken up.. not the people who weren't there

Most people tried to keep themselves distanced from anything to do with Me too controversy because it was like a ticking time bomb at the time.. so it's not really shocking or out of the ordinary that no one was willing to speak on it


True with most people (everyone minding their own business). But not with friends. They could have spoken up against blinds, at least after Sushant provided evidence (unless Sushant asked them not to. I have heard that in Hrithik. He wanted to take on individually).

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