Anybody noticed this? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

There is another element to this debate that is not being discussed.

MODELS

The modelling world ALSO gives a huge and unfair advantage when it comes to entering Bollywood. Any girl that does Miss India gets noticed and COUNTLESS models were given ACTING jobs based JUST ON THEIR LOOKS. They are not quite as "OUTSIDER" as they are being portrayed.

Deepika Padukone, Anushka Sharma, Aishwarya Rai, Priyanka Chopra, and many many many more. They all had multiple directors signing them up just because they were successful models. In fact Deepika's voice was DUBBED in Om Shanti Om because her dialogue delivery was so bad. Farah literally said in many interviews that she just loved her face "she had that old world vibe" type.

That puts them at an unequal advantage to some real outsider. Just like "nepotism".

Something to think about.

If an actress is a good looking, than thats a part of her X factor and appeal. today, no one is giving a pleuretha a films one after another to actresses who are models or good looking. Today actors are always more likely to get good work because of their talent and what they can contribute depending on the film opportunity.

The amount of work given to a star kid over a good looking model will always be a 100x greater.

I can name many models today and in the past not given the opportunity to act.

Originally posted by: vsbarry

I can name many models today and in the past not given the opportunity to act.

Why should they be? Nobody is owed anything.

How long is this forum going to keep whining about nepotism? Day in and day out, it's the same old repetitive crap. Bollywood has always been a family business. Most of the big stars of past eras were all well-connected. Occasionally they bring in some models or pageant contestants for their face or body. Most of those modeling type outsiders haven't been good actors anyway.

Private companies have the right to spend their money on whoever they want. What is this entitlement that they have to help random people from the outside?

Since late 1980s nepotism has existed

Raveena tandon, karisma kapoor, kajol, rani mukherjee, twinkle were products of nepotism

Apart from karishma and twinkle rest all improved after 2-3 movies

But they were good or ok

But still sridevi, madhuri, sonali, ashiwarya, priety zinta, shilpa shetty etc non film background dominated

Later on kareena, katrina etc were product of nepotism but bearable

Still priyanka, kangana, vidya, bipasha, deepika, anushka dominated till recently

But now the actress who are coming neither have looks nor acting ability nor dressing sense nor have right attitude. They are just there because of their fathers/mothers sake like alia, anaya, jhanvi, sara etc

But way bollywood promotes them is as if they are better than madhubala and sridevi

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Why should they be? Nobody is owed anything.

How long is this forum going to keep whining about nepotism? Day in and day out, it's the same old repetitive crap. Bollywood has always been a family business. Most of the big stars of past eras were all well-connected. Occasionally they bring in some models or pageant contestants for their face or body. Most of those modeling type outsiders haven't been good actors anyway.

Private companies have the right to spend their money on whoever they want. What is this entitlement that they have to help random people from the outside?

I mean Kangana got more money than anyone for Rangoon. It makes me wonder what she means when she says the mafia is taking her down 🤣

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Why should they be? Nobody is owed anything.

So many films come from so many girls. Just go watch them and make them stars 🤣

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

There is another element to this debate that is not being discussed.

MODELS

The modelling world ALSO gives a huge and unfair advantage when it comes to entering Bollywood. Any girl that does Miss India gets noticed and COUNTLESS models were given ACTING jobs based JUST ON THEIR LOOKS. They are not quite as "OUTSIDER" as they are being portrayed.

Deepika Padukone, Anushka Sharma, Aishwarya Rai, Priyanka Chopra, and many many many more. They all had multiple directors signing them up just because they were successful models. In fact Deepika's voice was DUBBED in Om Shanti Om because her dialogue delivery was so bad. Farah literally said in many interviews that she just loved her face "she had that old world vibe" type.

That puts them at an unequal advantage to some real outsider. Just like "nepotism".

Something to think about.

I was thinking along the same line today, but was unable to put forward my point in a coherent way..thanks for bringing this up..there is so much discussion about the previlages of an insider..and many examples given against starkids were these models/beauty queens..doesnt beauty give them undue advantage over other people who are much more talented.. is that fair? ..the fact is life is never a fair field.

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

Let's flashback to the 1990s:

- Pooja Bhatt (daughter of Director Mahesh Bhatt)

- Karisma Kapoor (daughter of actor Randhir Kapoor)

- Kajol (daughter of actress Tanuja)

- Raveena Tandon (daughter of director Ravi Tandon)

- Tabu (niece of actress Shabana Azmi)

- Rani Mukerji (daughter of director Ram Mukherjee)

- Sharbani Mukherjee (cousin of actresses Kajol/Rani)

- Amrita Singh (niece of actress Begum Para)

- Padmini Kolhapure (niece of singer Lata Mangeshkar)

- Simple Kapadia (sister of actress Dimple Kapadia)

- Madhoo (niece of actress Hema Malini)

- Namrata Shirodkar (sister of actress Shilpa Shirodkar)

- Jyotika (sister of actress Nagma)

- Pratibha Sinha (daughter of actress Mala Sinha)

^ a good 8 of them were super successful, some less so.

This list was compiled quickly off the top of my head. I think there are lots more names that could be mentioned with some research.

NOT to mention, when it comes to MALES, the list is much longer, here are a few names to ponder: Sanjay Dutt, Salman Khan, Aamir Khan, Anil Kapoor, Kumar Gaurav, Govinda, Saif Ali Khan, Mohnish Behl, Sunny Deol, Bobby Deol, Ajay Devgan, Armaan Kohli, Sanjay Kapoor, Ayub Khan, Fardeen Khan, Shadaab Khan, Akshaye Khanna, Rahul Khanna, Rishi Kapoor...

The situation was FAR worse back then.

So true, the situation was damn worse then, with digital revolution, people being active on social media, it's more difficult for star kids to survive. I will use this reference again here, Shweta Nanda mentioned why she doesn't want her daughter to be in movies because she couldn't sleep seeing her brother Abhishek trolled day and night.

In round table conference, Ayushmann himself said (despite being an outsider) that Star kids have more pressure to live upto the potential while if outsiders even if achieve 50 percent of what they thought, as even if outsiders aren't so great actors, the will always get the respect which nepotism kids won't get.

Now, I do admit like Siddhant chaturvedi said that, when nepotism kids dreams are fulfilled outsiders' struggle starts. But even some outsiders because of the connections like or some tag (Miss World kind of), make it early to Bollywood. But the fact is everyone is selfish, they will give them easy launch and give more chances to them but it's the X Factor, luck, looks, talent and most important how they click to te audience (like intelligent movie choices (which make them survive in industry, that's why Tushar Kapoor, Esha Deol etc couldn't make it.

I also agree that star kids get more hype over the outsiders but that's not on talent, audience and public too is responsible for this. I mean Taimoor hasn't done anything, he is just a kid, he is still more famous than any outsider, sane is with Aryan, Sunana many more. If it's unfair with others then public is responsible for giving them hype, so nothing new.

Originally posted by: rkisnothot

Why should they be? Nobody is owed anything.

How long is this forum going to keep whining about nepotism? Day in and day out, it's the same old repetitive crap. Bollywood has always been a family business. Most of the big stars of past eras were all well-connected. Occasionally they bring in some models or pageant contestants for their face or body. Most of those modeling type outsiders haven't been good actors anyway.

Private companies have the right to spend their money on whoever they want. What is this entitlement that they have to help random people from the outside?

💯💯💯

Dont you know nepotism is the biggest crime out there.

In bollywood we have Woman abusers, casting couch, extra marital affairs, cheaters, stalkers, homewreckers, murderers, terrorist, people with underworld connections and what not..but hey thats all ok..its only nepotism that matters..that might be the reason why none of the above mentioned get even 1% of the flack a nepotism product gets.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Since late 1980s nepotism has existed

Raveena tandon, karisma kapoor, kajol, rani mukherjee, twinkle were products of nepotism

Apart from karishma and twinkle rest all improved after 2-3 movies

But they were good or ok

But still sridevi, madhuri, sonali, ashiwarya, priety zinta, shilpa shetty etc non film background dominated

Later on kareena, katrina etc were product of nepotism but bearable

Still priyanka, kangana, vidya, bipasha, deepika, anushka dominated till recently

But now the actress who are coming neither have looks nor acting ability nor dressing sense nor have right attitude. They are just there because of their fathers/mothers sake like alia, anaya, jhanvi, sara etc

But way bollywood promotes them is as if they are better than madhubala and sridevi

1. "Nepotism" existed from day one. I'm talking 1920s. Nepotism exists in almost every industry. People like to help their friends and family. It happened way before the 1980s. I can give you at least 100 examples, but here's 5: Nutan (daughter of Shobhna Samantha), Nargis (daughter of Jaddanbai), Raj Kapoor (son of Prithviraj Kapoor), Saira Banu (daughter of Naseem Banu), Sadhana (niece of Hari Shivdasani)

2. "rest improved after 2-3 movies" - in which universe is this please? Raveena didn't "improve" until she had signed like her 25th film. Same can be said for MANY others too. I don't see the point here really anyway.

3. "Shilpa Shetty and Sonali Bendre dominated" - Nope.

4. You are comparing Sara/Ananya/Janhvi who have each had 3, 2, 1 film releases respectively to the actresses in the past who have their entire Filmography in the past - where is the logic please?

5. This forum is killing me today - in a good way. [lulz]

Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

So true, the situation was damn worse then, with digital revolution, people being active on social media, it's more difficult for star kids to survive. I will use this reference again here, Shweta Nanda mentioned why she doesn't want her daughter to be in movies because she couldn't sleep seeing her brother Abhishek trolled day and night.

In round table conference, Ayushmann himself said (despite being an outsider) that Star kids have more pressure to live upto the potential while if outsiders even if achieve 50 percent of what they thought, as even if outsiders aren't so great actors, the will always get the respect which nepotism kids won't get.

Now, I do admit like Siddhant chaturvedi said that, when nepotism kids dreams are fulfilled outsiders' struggle starts. But even some outsiders because of the connections like or some tag (Miss World kind of), make it early to Bollywood. But the fact is everyone is selfish, they will give them easy launch and give more chances to them but it's the X Factor, luck, looks, talent and most important how they click to te audience (like intelligent movie choices (which make them survive in industry, that's why Tushar Kapoor, Esha Deol etc couldn't make it.

I also agree that star kids get more hype over the outsiders but that's not on talent, audience and public too is responsible for this. I mean Taimoor hasn't done anything, he is just a kid, he is still more famous than any outsider, sane is with Aryan, Sunana many more. If it's unfair with others then public is responsible for giving them hype, so nothing new.

THIS x 1,000,000

I was going to bring this up next.

There is a huge THIRST from the public to see star kids, that's a fact.

Producers know this, so hiring an Alaya F or Abhimanyu Dasani will give their films an extra push, more exposure. Headlines like "Bhagyashree's song makes debut, 30 years after Maine Pyar Kiya", and "Pooja Bedi's gorgeous daughter looks amazing in new photoshoot".

If they take a completely unconnected actress or actor, they have to work harder to present their newcomers to the public. And film houses are lazy af.

E.g. "Here is our new star Priya's new photo shoot, her mother Basanti is a florist in Goa" - it doesn't get the same attention.