Balaram on Dice Game - Page 6

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Had panchali outright accused yudhishtra right in the dice hall things would have been worse for and pandavas. Instead she used a different tactics and used her brains to combat the difficult situation. She was smart and not emotional fool. She does rips him apart later in vana parva.

This particular event sets her apart from women and men of that era, there's no doubt on her intelligence and patience to deal with people like Kauravas and Pandavas, but we can't overlook the fact that the man responsible for what happened to her gained the most instead of paying for what he did

What tells that a man doesn't have any right to stake his wife?

Originally posted by: NoraSM

This particular event sets her apart from women and men of that era, there's no doubt on her intelligence and patience to deal with people like Kauravas and Pandavas, but we can't overlook the fact that the man responsible for what happened to her gained the most instead of paying for what he did

What tells that a man doesn't have any right to stake his wife?

A man never has a right to stake his wife. Or his brother for that matter. Human beings are not commodities.

And what did yudhishtra gained in the dice hall ?? He f*cked up royally ended up loosing everything. Only person who shone that day was drapaudi krishnaa panchali. My girl rocked and how!! 😎.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

True that. She might have been an intelligent and politically sound lady, but she was also a human who loved her husband/s just because they did wrong to her doesn't mean that she would do bad to them

No, If husband does bad, A wife shouldn't stay with him, you see while loving her for what she did right we have to set up ground rules for what was wrong, Yudi didn't learn anything from this, Keechak incident is an example of this where he asks her to put up with him, Bheema helped her. Love for anyone shouldn't cloud one's judgement of right and wrong

Dhruti was blind in dury's love and Pandavas were blind in Yudi's love

Why dhrithrashtra did not stop game. He was knowing that everything going out of control and even vidhur requesting dhrithrashtra stop game but still dhrithrashtra did not stop game ? Why?

Even draupdi asking help from king dhrithrashtra but he could not help . Why he was so helpless?

Yudhishthir did not tell dhrithrashtra and bheeshm not to help draupdi but neither bheeshm nor dhrithrashtra could help her

So only yudhishthir is not faulty others are also faulty and biggest faulty are bheeshm and dhrithrashtra

And main faulty is dhrithrashtra he just sitting silently when he has power

Originally posted by: NoraSM

This particular event sets her apart from women and men of that era, there's no doubt on her intelligence and patience to deal with people like Kauravas and Pandavas, but we can't overlook the fact that the man responsible for what happened to her gained the most instead of paying for what he did

What tells that a man doesn't have any right to stake his wife?

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

A man never has a right to stake his wife. Or his brother for that matter. Human beings are not commodities.

And what did yudhishtra gained in the dice hall ?? He f*cked up royally ended up loosing everything. Only person who shone that day was drapaudi krishnaa panchali. My girl rocked and how!! 😎.

In the end, Yudi got throne of Hastinapur

Point is that everyone Dury, karna etc paid for what they did but Yudi who was to blame the most gained the most and Draupadi, for the masses is responsible for a war, her ego, her wrong comments

We read and we know what happened but most people in India don't know it, The hero moment of Draupadi is scattered with dyut being synonymous to Cheerharan and Krishna saving her, Where Yudi is known as Dharmaraj

Originally posted by: Horizon566

Yudi and other Pandavas did get the punishment even though they didn't die in kurukshetra but they lost all near and dear ones.Also even though they were warriors but they didn't get the glory of martyr.In the end all of them had to give away their weapons which they loved the most.

What did other Pandavas do? Weren't they victim of Yudi's addiction, that's what Arjuna said to Yudi, it was because of him that everyone lost everything

Originally posted by: NoraSM

What did other Pandavas do? Weren't they victim of Yudi's addiction, that's what Arjuna said to Yudi, it was because of him that everyone lost everything

Originally posted by: Horizon566

Yeah they did told Yudi and were ready to fight in dyut sabha also but Yudi stopped them.So they couldn't protect Panchali but there a women was getting stripped and that women was their wife as well as queen(former) so they had to follow both pati dharam and Raj dharam and even if not them then for basic humanity they ought to protect her and disregard Yudi.And even if we forget this then arjun was not ready to fight in kurukshetra and even after Geeta Gyan he didn't fight to the best of his capability but when abhimanyu got martyred then he became kaal and let me clear it none of the Pandavas(except bheem)was fight for Draupadi

No argument there, They had to protect her but as I said Dhruti was blind in Dury's love and Pandavas were blind in Yudi's love.

They were more of slave than Draupadi, Draupadi had the claim of being free because Yudi lost himself before her, Pandavas didn't have this claim, they were disrobed too, they didn't have weapons as well

I don't get this Arjun not willing to fight because when I read the war chapters, every page contain words with him doing something heroic, he did not want to kill his guru, grandfather etc doesn't mean he wasn't fighting and only started fighting after Abhi died, he was as reluctant on killing of Drona after Abhi's death as he was before Abhi's death

Doesn’t change the fact that 4 Pandavas were victims of Dyut too, they had to live away from their family and sons for 13 years and lose them in the war

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Did she ever taunt him in his face? I understand what and why she did taking the age and society in consideration, I can't support her in this but I do love her for everything she stands for

The war happened people died and Yudhishtira got to be the King, why didn't he pay for what he did?

1. When she is trying to save the empire, she cannot go to the dice hall and call Yudhishtira an incompetent nincompoop who lost the empire, its citizens, his family, and his wife over his ego. It would have HER enemies the excuse they needed to keep it all. Remember, Yudhishtira was the ONLY one with the right to the throne on their side.

2. During 13 years, Panchali first tries a lecture with him. Please read it if you already haven't. It is Gita in HER words except she wasn't saying it to a receptive mind. For her pains, Yudhishtira calls her an atheist, a crime punishable by death penalty those days.

Afterwards, she doesn't say any more to his face, and Bheema gives us the reason why in Virat Parva. Yudhishtira would kill himself. Or at the very least, threaten to retire permanently as he did many times. Once again, she would lose all chances at getting justice and saving the empire from the criminals.

3. After war, she calls Yudhishtira plenty. Will not bore people by repeating citations.

BOTTOMLINE: With Shakuni and dice hall, Panchali played politics. Think of her as a defense lawyer. She can't go to court and accuse her own client even if he is guilty. It would be malpractice.

During the exile, she played the long game. She wasn't only a wife at that point. She was the empress of her citizens.

After the war, she let the human Panchali have her say.

The lady had intelligence and the patience to put her plans into action.