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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Eloquent


I know Bhishma didn't fight an unfair war.


But my sympathy for him is limited for his silence during Dyut Sabha.


And Amba, Ambika, Ambalika haran.


For me all those arrows stuck to him represent his silence for each person attacking Panchali (verbally or otherwise) in Dyut Sabha.


He gives the lamest answer when Panchali asks about dharma and whether Yudhisthira had any right to stake her after losing himself.


That I agree with, anyone who was silent is a part of the problem in Dyut Sabha. Bhishma too.

Amba- I too agree here but I do understand that at that time, promises were a big deal, not like today's time where we can break promises easily. Anyway even then, at least for Amba he should have let go because the woman lost her life because of him.

However, I meant he at least fought the war in fair terms and I believe those who use unfair means in the war deserved an unfair death ie Drona and Karna. (Though Karna did continue fighting)

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Posted: 5 years ago
#12

How come no one added Janmayey Nagmedh Yagya??


That is pure genocide of Nagas(I don't think they were snakes, rather were most probably Humans of Naga totem) killing every Naga he met???


But then it happened in Kaliyuga

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Vrihsena's death


I might not like Karna and might like Arjun slightly but Vrihsena's death isn't something to ignore


Arjun didn't just kill him in the war as normally anyone would do but literally chopped off his hands, legs, removed his eyes and then beheaded him


How so much we justify he was avenging Abhimanyu, this mutilation of the body of a warrior is no way acceptable.


Had I been in those days, I wouldn't have forgiven Arjun for this at all (and I am ready to forgive Pandavas for killing Bheeshm, Dron and Karna by violation of war rules)

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Posted: 5 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

How come no one added Janmayey Nagmedh Yagya??


That is pure genocide of Nagas(I don't think they were snakes, rather were most probably Humans of Naga totem) killing every Naga he met???


But then it happened in Kaliyuga

That too. What's with these people killing groups of people like they're insects i never got 😕

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

That too. What's with these people killing groups of people like they're insects i never got 😕

Exactly the Pandavas and their progeny was no saints


This Yagya involved catching any random Naga and sacrificing him. Thousands died before he was stopped


Killing some one in war is a thing but random killing?? That's pure genocide..

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Posted: 5 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Exactly the Pandavas and their progeny was no saints


This Yagya involved catching any random Naga and sacrificing him. Thousands died before he was stopped


Killing some one in war is a thing but random killing?? That's pure genocide..


Because nagas killed his father Parikshit no?

What a maniac.

Hitler, Stalin, Mao would be upset to know they weren't the first ones in mass killing. Janamejaya and Krishna-Arjun did this way before. 😂

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Posted: 5 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

How come no one added Janmayey Nagmedh Yagya??


That is pure genocide of Nagas(I don't think they were snakes, rather were most probably Humans of Naga totem) killing every Naga he met???


But then it happened in Kaliyuga


Probably because everyone skips that part of Adi parva to skip to the interesting parts (or atleast I do) 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: CaptainSpark


That I agree with, anyone who was silent is a part of the problem in Dyut Sabha. Bhishma too.

Amba- I too agree here but I do understand that at that time, promises were a big deal, not like today's time where we can break promises easily. Anyway even then, at least for Amba he should have let go because the woman lost her life because of him.

However, I meant he at least fought the war in fair terms and I believe those who use unfair means in the war deserved an unfair death ie Drona and Karna. (Though Karna did continue fighting)


I'm not talking of his oath at all. That part is somehow the very thing wrong with his life overall (linked to his silence in Dyut Sabha also).


Merely talking about how he barges in a swayamvar & kidnaps the three princesses without consent and thus is, rightly so, the first cause of Amba's miserable life henceforth.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Vrihsena's death


I might not like Karna and might like Arjun slightly but Vrihsena's death isn't something to ignore


Arjun didn't just kill him in the war as normally anyone would do but literally chopped off his hands, legs, removed his eyes and then beheaded him


How so much we justify he was avenging Abhimanyu, this mutilation of the body of a warrior is no way acceptable.


Had I been in those days, I wouldn't have forgiven Arjun for this at all (and I am ready to forgive Pandavas for killing Bheeshm, Dron and Karna by violation of war rules)


I had no idea of this! I knew he killed Vrishsena but not like this. Can u please give the quote? I want to read.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#20

Greatest discomfort comes when I read the staking of human beings. Even staking the kingdom wasn't inexcusable because a kingdom had to be the king's supreme priority.

Then the aftermath of Yudhisthira's loss in the dice hall.


The Amba-Bhishma episode is damn complicated. The act of barging into the swayamvar was terribly wrong. Next action was noble but the preceding act had already done the damage.

Maybe the aftermath could have been avoided if the abductions weren't carried for someone else. Anyway, a greater sense of responsibility was required in this case.

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