Why didn't Arjun protect Draupadi? - Page 10

We are thinking from 21st century view of arjun

Arjun had many wives not only draupadi

So he may be like its ok if they insult draupadi i have many other wives may be

Or hes like i am not her only husband so let others take care

Like children, everyone thinks let other take care of parents finally hardly anyone does ---- just an example

Arjun may not be in love with draupadi like hes with subhadra may be

Or Subhadra is his cousin and best friend sister so he will be more protective of her than draupadi

Look he loved abhimanyu too more noooo............you love the mother so love son from her too

Imagine if subhadra was there instead of draupadi, to hell with all rules of those times krishna and arjun would have finished everyone than and there is it not?

Second is yudhistra orders, those days elder brothers order is like Gods orders they do not disobey

Anyways i feel if it was subhadra arjun and kkrishna would not have bothered about yudhistra orders

So it all boils to how much you love the person truly?

Imagine instead of draupadi kunti is there, how would pandavas react?

If you truly love a person all rules are broken for them if not you say these are rules sorry and sit quietly thats all

I think bheema loved and respected draupadi more he was truly angry and spoke for her despite brothers orders

Bheema is that innocent soul who will not calculate situation and speak like yudhistra and co

Originally posted by: myviewprem

We are thinking from 21st century view of arjun

Arjun had many wives not only draupadi

So he may be like its ok if they insult draupadi i have many other wives may be

Or hes like i am not her only husband so let others take care

Like children, everyone thinks let other take care of parents finally hardly anyone does ---- just an example

Arjun may not be in love with draupadi like hes with subhadra may be

Or Subhadra is his cousin and best friend sister so he will be more protective of her than draupadi

Look he loved abhimanyu too more noooo............you love the mother so love son from her too

Imagine if subhadra was there instead of draupadi, to hell with all rules of those times krishna and arjun would have finished everyone than and there is it not?

Second is yudhistra orders, those days elder brothers order is like Gods orders they do not disobey

Anyways i feel if it was subhadra arjun and kkrishna would not have bothered about yudhistra orders

So it all boils to how much you love the person truly?

Imagine instead of draupadi kunti is there, how would pandavas react?

If you truly love a person all rules are broken for them if not you say these are rules sorry and sit quietly thats all

I think bheema loved and respected draupadi more he was truly angry and spoke for her despite brothers orders

Bheema is that innocent soul who will not calculate situation and speak like yudhistra and co

Actually arjuna did spoke up too - citation in previous pages. And krishnaa was the most angry after finding what happened he promised panchali death of everyone involved in her humiliation and i think he did fullfillled his promise . Plus if you believe in divinity he did helped in her dice hall itself .He even rebukes all of them i am sure both pandavas and krishna loved krishnaa a lot.

And most importantly out of everyone her cowherd friend was the only who never let her down.

Plus the situation itself for very messy. There is a reason why even drapaudi does not directly blames yudhishtra in the dice hall she instead uses different approach because had she or any of the brothers blames him directly situation would have become worse. So she uses her political side to salvage their situation and she did well that is why she not only saved herself but also her husband got their kingdom back too

Originally posted by: myviewprem

We are thinking from 21st century view of arjun

Arjun had many wives not only draupadi

So he may be like its ok if they insult draupadi i have many other wives may be

Or hes like i am not her only husband so let others take care

Like children, everyone thinks let other take care of parents finally hardly anyone does ---- just an example

Arjun may not be in love with draupadi like hes with subhadra may be

Or Subhadra is his cousin and best friend sister so he will be more protective of her than draupadi

Look he loved abhimanyu too more noooo............you love the mother so love son from her too

Imagine if subhadra was there instead of draupadi, to hell with all rules of those times krishna and arjun would have finished everyone than and there is it not?

Second is yudhistra orders, those days elder brothers order is like Gods orders they do not disobey

Anyways i feel if it was subhadra arjun and kkrishna would not have bothered about yudhistra orders

So it all boils to how much you love the person truly?

Imagine instead of draupadi kunti is there, how would pandavas react?

If you truly love a person all rules are broken for them if not you say these are rules sorry and sit quietly thats all

I think bheema loved and respected draupadi more he was truly angry and spoke for her despite brothers orders

Bheema is that innocent soul who will not calculate situation and speak like yudhistra and co

The catch here is that everyone was in same situation except Yudhishtira, He was the culprit

None of her husbands did anything apart from lending verbal support, Arjun did support Draupadi's claim

It is possible all of the Pandavas had other favorite wives hence they did not do anything

Abhimanyu as a character had bigger role than Upapandavas, Draupadi loved him too, she has said her sons will avenge her with Abhimanyu leading them. Yudhishtira had donated huge on Abhimanyu's birth which wasn't illustrated for birth of Upapandavas. It's because Abhimanyu's role was more important as he was related to Krushna and amalgamation of Nara-Narayana, His birth description was followed by comparison with his father and Krushna, not with his mother Subhadra

Originally posted by: NoraSM

The catch here is that everyone was in same situation except Yudhishtira, He was the culprit

None of her husbands did anything apart from lending verbal support, Arjun did support Draupadi's claim

It is possible all of the Pandavas had other favorite wives hence they did not do anything

Abhimanyu as a character had bigger role than Upapandavas, Draupadi loved him too, she has said her sons will avenge her with Abhimanyu leading them. Yudhishtira had donated huge on Abhimanyu's birth which wasn't illustrated for birth of Upapandavas. It's because Abhimanyu's role was more important as he was related to Krushna and amalgamation of Nara-Narayana, His birth description was followed by comparison with his father and Krushna, not with his mother Subhadra

Pandavas were not that shallow

Actually abhimanyu s importance has got more to do with the story being narrated to his grandson janemya than anything else. The grandson will obviously be more interested in knowing about his grandfather s birth and life than about his brothers. That's why not much is said about upandavas (if they actually existed)

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I have thought about this, I am watching Ramayana too and there was a scene a few days ago between Kumbhkarana and Vibhishan. The moral codes were according to the people who adapted them, Kumbh said supporting his brother, even if he is wrong, is dharma and Vibhishan went against his brother to be with what is right. Ultimately, Kumbh was defeated and Vibhishan was crowned the King of Lanka

In Mahabharata, there are Krushna and Balarama too, Balaram is elder brother of Krushna but Krushna didn't support him when it was about Duryodhana, how can defying elder brother be right for Krushna and wrong for Arjun?

Witnessing a woman in that condition and the woman is his wife, he did not do anything to protect her, and still be known as the greatest man is something I can't stomach

It was a different time and thought processes and code of Dharma was different which we cannot really understand.

I also feel that, since it’s was almost first time that adharma was taking such a turn , they probably didn’t have the wisdom to differentiate between adharm and true Dharm. They did what they thought was their primary duty.

Like, Bhishma was a good and Dharmic person, but he was unable to break free from old traditions and vows, which was ideally the right thing to do.

True Dharm, can’t be a set of codes that remain unchanged forever.. one should be able to use his wisdom too.. and do what’s right.

Forget the Pandavas. Even Vidur, Bhishm and Dhrona who were aldults of the family did nothing but shed tears.. yeh Kansa dharm hai no nirbalta ban jaaye.

We should be righteous but not let others take advantage of us.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Pandavas were not that shallow

Actually abhimanyu s importance has got more to do with the story being narrated to his grandson janemya than anything else. The grandson will obviously be more interested in knowing about his grandfather s birth and life than about his brothers. That's why not much is said about upandavas (if they actually existed)

I don't have positive feelings for Pandavas. No matter what I read, nothing compels me to understand their inability to stop Draupadi's humiliation. Do you think they would have reacted in same manner if it was their mother?

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I don't have positive feelings for Pandavas. No matter what I read, nothing compels me to understand their inability to stop Draupadi's humiliation. Do you think they would have reacted in same manner if it was their mother?

I don't know. And honestly i don't care. They did what they thought "right" ultimately the only people who shone for me throughout the epic were drapaudi and Krishna. Bhim being the third because he did helped panchali to fight against keechak and jaydharth and then we have abhimanyu and drishtdyum who were true warriors much better than other who gave their all to fight for their cause unlike many other "nobleman" plus i have soft spot for upandavas because even though not much is known about them still in the war they did well too. uttara too ❤️

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I don't have positive feelings for Pandavas. No matter what I read, nothing compels me to understand their inability to stop Draupadi's humiliation. Do you think they would have reacted in same manner if it was their mother?

Draupadi was humiliated because she was married to all 5 of them.

Also, if you noticed, Duryodhan had the same view of Kunti.. as he didn’t consider them as rightful sons as they are not biologically Kunti’s children. Yudhishthir gets angry but doesn’t take any action or punish them.

Never mind his father was also a product of niyog 😂 such hypocrisy..

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Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Yes, you should blame Arjun and everyone else out there. You are right, he is the one who won the Swayamvar and hence he should have been the first to speak irrespective of whether it was his wish or not. He might have been a slave but anyone who would be bothered by such atrocities should at least speak up, again, we have an example of this. Bheem spoke up, Vikarna did if I remember right. Bheem too was a slave. So there's no excuse why he couldn't have even spoken.

1) when draupadi was shared between the pandavas her responsibility was also equlally divided. standing up for draupadi was not only arjun's onus. she was as much wife of other four as much as arjun.

2) arjun did speak up for draupadi. he was the first one who supported draupadi's allegation that if yudi had lost himself he did not have right to stake her. bheem did speak for her but it was bheem who defied this allegation saying that yudi was master of all 6 ( Ps +drau)of them.