Yudishthir: Really dharmaraj? - Page 3

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

First off, Mahabharata is not written by B R Chopra. Please do not believe everything shown in the show. These shows are commercialized and they go by virtue of their audience and what sells.

Now coming to Yudhishthir, I have read few of the comments and posts here. The thing is, Yudhishthir is human, like you and me and hence yes, he did make a mistake by putting Draupadi on bet and his brothers too. But, his title as Dharma Raj comes from his skills as a ruler.

We must remember this is the story of Dwapar Yug and as much as I hate to admit, monarchy being the accepted form of government here had impacted the laws of the country. Hence, a King was mainly judged by his skills of rule and politics. Not his personal misdeeds. (It's sad, I do not agree but it is a fact).

Hence, when we judge Yudhi in light of today's terms, laws and morality, we must keep in mind the evolution of the idea of morality and law and then make our decisions.

I don't support Yudhi here. All I am saying is, why things were they way it was and how he is still considered Dharmaraj.

If you say that Yudhishtir was otherwise perfect but he just made a mistake at that time then that's fine but I have issues when people try to justify this act

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

If you say that Yudhishtir was otherwise perfect but he just made a mistake at that time then that's fine but I have issues when people try to justify this act

Same.

Now lemme see what BRC has to say for this conduct of his. From the parts of episodes I saw, Yudi didn't even show a single ounce of guilt/grief/remorse after even Vastraharan.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

If you say that Yudhishtir was otherwise perfect but he just made a mistake at that time then that's fine but I have issues when people try to justify this act

No, I don't consider him perfect at all. I am in fact not much of a fan. XD

I was just saying, the reason why he was still considered righteous is because of the societal structure back then.

And I too don't know why they try to justify the act. It is wrong, and always will be.

Originally posted by: Mannmohanaa

Same.

Now lemme see what BRC has to say for this conduct of his. From the parts of episodes I saw, Yudi didn't even show a single ounce of guilt/grief/remorse after even Vastraharan.

Their Yudhishthir is quite a bad portrayal, even the actor is not good. I am against what he did but BRC overdoes it. He does show remorse for his deeds in the original text.

What Yudi did was fallen in trap like any person does even today. For example: A person X makes his enemy Y temporarily happy by purposely losing a fight so that Y becomes over-confident and feels he can defeat him easily not aware that he is being trapped. And when another game happens, X takes Y by surprises and shows him his true colours by continuously defeating him be it by honestly or cheating. Yahi Shakuni ne Yudi ke saath kiya. Upar se Yudi's over-mahaanness, extra-sweetness and gullible attitude gave them more opportunities to continue trapping Yudi eventually making him entirely kangaal and taking away all his and loved ones dignity. The issue is not him whether he deserves being called Dharmaraj or not but this incident teaches to be careful before what we do and careful of others words. Also that its not necessary to follow everything even a great person does because everyone makes some mistakes and what Yudi did was not a mistake but sin.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Their Yudhishthir is quite a bad portrayal, even the actor is not good. I am against what he did but BRC overdoes it. He does show remorse for his deeds in the original text.

I don't have problem with actor but what he did was sin. Koi insaan apne bail-bakriyon ko bhi aise daav pe nahi lagaata hai par isne to apne bhaiyon aur biwiyon ko bhi laga diya. When Karna brought up Draupadi idea, other 4 husbands immediately got raged but Yudi stopped them. And after Draupadi being molested, Yudi will tell her to forgive Dury and gang. Not even that but he will get ready for another Ludo Game which will lead to their vanvaas and agyaatvaas.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

No, I don't consider him perfect at all. I am in fact not much of a fan. XD

I was just saying, the reason why he was still considered righteous is because of the societal structure back then.

And I too don't know why they try to justify the act. It is wrong, and always will be.

Even well known social workers do good works but some of them actually have evil sides too. Same as Karna. No matter how big daani he was what he did with Draupadi brings his goodness to ZERO.

Originally posted by: Mannmohanaa

Same.

Now lemme see what BRC has to say for this conduct of his. From the parts of episodes I saw, Yudi didn't even show a single ounce of guilt/grief/remorse after even Vastraharan.

You should not follow everything from BRC just because its old TV version. They show many things wrong. They whitewashed Drona in Eklavya case. Sagar Arts shown Ramayan of Ram Charitra Manas instead of original Valmiki which looked blunder as RMC version looks fanmade.

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

You should not follow everything from BRC just because its old TV version. They show many things wrong. They whitewashed Drona in Eklavya case. Sagar Arts shown Ramayan of Ram Charitra Manas instead of original Valmiki which looked blunder as RMC version looks fanmade.

Yes, I just realised this. I thought BRC was trustworthy enough for such important matters.

RMC is indeed, from a bhakt's perspective so it will look like that. But I've seen Ramanand Sagar specify again and again that his Ramayana was based on verified events from both the books - RMC and Valmiki's, though many people are doubtful about the same.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Dhritrashtra said chup and baitho? Which version are you mentioning? I haven't read any version which states that Yudhishtir asked for permission to stop the game and Dhritrashtra asked him to continue.

Yes I know post Indraprasth Yudhishtir was too numb and was agreeing to stake whatever Shakuni suggested but Dhritrashtra asking to continue is totally confusing.

@First line, I said the same thing, unlike what BRC n others show, probably Yudhishtir by then had started enjoying the game and got into it, probably reality only stuck him once he actually lost his kingdom, I guess that was when got completely numb and didn't know how to continue

Please someone answer this