Munafiq - Fatima Effendi, Bilal Q , Adeel Ch, Maryam N - Page 89

Sami now that i think of it im sure hamza ujala were always meant to be end game because when the news of this show came out first faizan and fatima were mentioned as leads but faizan was then replaced by bilal

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

awida i will watch all those dramas you listed above if they are on yt :P nazish is tolerable when she gets few scenes only i cant stand her taking all the screen space

Yes i think faizan was signed for this drama when he was working on Geo like he was in that other drama mann chahi or something but then he moved to Hum dramas so they mustve replaced him also they probably casted Bilal due to Fatima and Bilal jodi popularity from ae dil tu bata

awida i never watched this drama but i was team hamza since day 1 even tho like sami i always thought armaan will later fall for ujala and they will be end game because ujala kept doing dua and longing for him...the only reason i am angry at armaan is because he never repented or apologised and he got away with everything with death instead of suffering and pondering over his sins

So I misunderstood you once again.😳 You were team Hamza even when he was negative?😲 Armaan was always a one woman man, but Hamza was a womanizer. Armaan was an obident son, he had it all to become a good family man, but then writers had another idea in their minds. They chose to turn him evil, and made us feel that Ujala's duas , prayers, and her sinserity were useless. what should we learn from this? 😕 That no matter what you do, you can't earn your husband's love, when he's already in love with someone else !🤔 but there's always another man who's ready to do anything for you, so stop being a good wife and search for the other man!😲😆

I believe death is a bigger punishment, coz you can't pay for your wrong doings in lifetime, so you have to face Allah's punishment which is much stronger. I believe those who suffer in life and pay for their sins may be forgiven by Allah in the end. That's why there is hadd , jail, or even the torment of conscience.😒

it is different way of thinking awida..i differ here ,death of Armaan is punishment for his mother and his son ,so its sad.Armaan was shown as some one capable of changing and be affected by good thoughts.

they decided at early point that they wil change the storyline and I feel that it was very bad moral lesson.only time ujaala directly blamed armaan for breaking the oath was after her divorce.Until then she jsut kept reminding him of it and he did not want to think about it.Story was changed afterwards and that lead to many loopholes.Many of my friends watched this drama after i told them about it,they started from first episode and watched everything.they all felt that there was just one moral....evil people just need major punishment.

Only partially evil people like hamza become nice because they have a hit pair with heroine from previous drama..i mean it was beyond ridiculous

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

Sami now that i think of it im sure hamza ujala were always meant to be end game because when the news of this show came out first faizan and fatima were mentioned as leads but faizan was then replaced by bilal

But they changed it,made armaan much more evil. This was same guy who did not like the fact that ujaala was insulted and treated like servant by Sobia,then suddenly he became like this.

It was meant as punishment of Armaan in realizing too late that person he loved was this insecure jerk and the person he never valued was best woman for her,isi liye adeel kept mentioning that biggest lesson for Armaan was getting married twice was wrong.

To give it sensational touch and making all about hamza and his love for a married woman,whom he abused for so long was somehow justified because he became this saint after hearing her pray and sing holy naat.

khula was also on their plans as they mentioned that her saas was pioneer social worker on women's rights and khula.It was not some random talk.Even ujaala mentioning about always obeying your husband otherwise your prayers don't work was meant as in future something on that line would happen.

I am sure they must have decided to give bilal and fatima the endgame but this was not they way they intended,hence the discrepancy in the story.

Originally posted by: sami011

end game i don't disagree about.My point is simple that it was meant as repenting and apologizing to ujaala.in the end they were supposed to i guess show that scene of ujaala hamza on sea shore and armaan alone on seashore by his car.

But they changed it,made armaan much more evil. This was same guy who did not like the fact that ujaala was insulted and treated like servant by Sobia,then suddenly he became like this.

It was meant as punishment of Armaan in realizing too late that person he loved was this insecure jerk and the person he never valued was best woman for her,isi liye adeel kept mentioning that biggest lesson for Armaan was getting married twice was wrong.

To give it sensational touch and making all about hamza and his love for a married woman,whom he abused for so long was somehow justified because he became this saint after hearing her pray and sing holy naat.

khula was also on their plans as they mentioned that her saas was pioneer social worker on women's rights and khula.It was not some random talk.Even ujaala mentioning about always obeying your husband otherwise your prayers don't work was meant as in future something on that line would happen.

I am sure they must have decided to give bilal and fatima the endgame but this was not they way they intended,hence the discrepancy in the story.

Sami is it really wrong to love a married woman???

Originally posted by: awida

So I misunderstood you once again.😳 You were team Hamza even when he was negative?😲 Armaan was always a one woman man, but Hamza was a womanizer. Armaan was an obident son, he had it all to become a good family man, but then writers had another idea in their minds. They chose to turn him evil, and made us feel that Ujala's duas , prayers, and her sinserity were useless. what should we learn from this? 😕 That no matter what you do, you can't earn your husband's love, when he's already in love with someone else !🤔 but there's always another man who's ready to do anything for you, so stop being a good wife and search for the other man!😲😆

I believe death is a bigger punishment, coz you can't pay for your wrong doings in lifetime, so you have to face Allah's punishment which is much stronger. I believe those who suffer in life and pay for their sins may be forgiven by Allah in the end. That's why there is hadd , jail, or even the torment of conscience.😒

you see as i said before maine show nahi dekha and initially i thought its a love story of armaan and ujala...the first scene i saw of hamza was when he started changing and falling for ujala, so thats how i started liking him

about the dua....you know Allah has different ways of answering our duas so if we dont get what we ask for it does not mean he didnt answer us...there are three ways he answers our dua 1) he gives us what we ask for 2) he doesnt give us what we ask for because its not good for us and he has something better planned 3) he removes a hurdle from our life/erases a sin...so in this case i believe the second one applies...as Armaan did not deserve a pious wife like Ujala so instead Allah gave her a better man

i get what you are saying about death beiing a punishment but dont you think its such a typical and boring ending? i like creative endings...such as in khaani where instead of getting him killed she forgave him and let him live in guilt and regret

Originally posted by: sami011

end game i don't disagree about.My point is simple that it was meant as repenting and apologizing to ujaala.in the end they were supposed to i guess show that scene of ujaala hamza on sea shore and armaan alone on seashore by his car.

But they changed it,made armaan much more evil. This was same guy who did not like the fact that ujaala was insulted and treated like servant by Sobia,then suddenly he became like this.

It was meant as punishment of Armaan in realizing too late that person he loved was this insecure jerk and the person he never valued was best woman for her,isi liye adeel kept mentioning that biggest lesson for Armaan was getting married twice was wrong.

To give it sensational touch and making all about hamza and his love for a married woman,whom he abused for so long was somehow justified because he became this saint after hearing her pray and sing holy naat.

khula was also on their plans as they mentioned that her saas was pioneer social worker on women's rights and khula.It was not some random talk.Even ujaala mentioning about always obeying your husband otherwise your prayers don't work was meant as in future something on that line would happen.

I am sure they must have decided to give bilal and fatima the endgame but this was not they way they intended,hence the discrepancy in the story.

armaan jitna bhi evil ho i just wish we got an apology scene at the end and him repenting...he shouldve at least seen ujala hamza and affan living a happy life without him

i am sure i have heard good things about this writer so garbar zaroor channel walon ne ki hai...as they do demand the writer to write certain stuff and drag the episodes sometimes

Originally posted by: Ruby7

Sami is it really wrong to love a married woman???

Loving no. But acting upon those feelings is wrong yes.

Originally posted by: Ruby7

Sami is it really wrong to love a married woman???

.But in end he did say sorry to her and she was 100 times worse than him.To shift her character towards him they made her some one who was literally a sugar baby.she used his feelings for her own end and it was beyond pathetic.She lost all my respect and i did not care for her happiness. Hamza was better out of them and poor guy got a a raw deal of a woman who used him to get her child and then married him after her ex husband was murdered.

I mean everyone deserves second chance and so did she but her character was butchered worse than armaan's .

Originally posted by: heavenlybliss

armaan jitna bhi evil ho i just wish we got an apology scene at the end and him repenting...he shouldve at least seen ujala hamza and affan living a happy life without him

i am sure i have heard good things about this writer so garbar zaroor channel walon ne ki hai...as they do demand the writer to write certain stuff and drag the episodes sometimes