YRHPK Re-runs// Discussion Thread 1 (update ep16 &17) - Page 98

Originally posted by: LetThereBeLight

ruhi 🤗 sorry for the late reply 😳

Haan i agree she is sorted in her wishes but somehow her emotions are messed up thats what all three have in common they have competitive nature but the problem is their emotional state which all three hid from family for one or other reason thats what i meant....

i agree i too said the same he needs to reprimand kuhu for badmouthing kuhu even though subtle like he did in last episode.... he will take stand for mishti, its not in the way he will handle kuhu thats not the problem here but the problem is he is aware of only half truth with that what he will understand n what he will do...

actually both have this hiding problem but when time comes abir says the information which is needed at that moment but mish doesnt even say that abir gets to know that only by himself that too only half info, she will keep on saying to abir thats no doubt bcoz she doesnt have any baggage with abir like mah family, she most of the time shows her anger, worry everything to abir only so she wont stop thats for sure the problem is she is only informing him half truth n also expecting abir to do what she wants both are doing the same...

let me explain why i'm keeping both on board by i talk for abir more...

see even in room scene, resort, the photo frame if you notice abir calmly listened to her until she complained about kuhu, he let her express her emotions but only when she started saying what she wants to do about kuhu to punish her, reprimand her abir started talking or walked out infact only once he walked out other two times mish misunderstood his words n walked out... both are not ready to talk properly about this issue... She is more talking about what kuhu will do, what they should do about kuhu rather than saying the actual truth if you notice abir reacted when kuhu talked about maasi n went overboard during the resort fight, both brothers only tried to stop kuhu they never said anything to mishti as they knew n understood mishti... if he knew kuhu actually planned the pills for mishti, she badmouthed maasi in the photo frame incident n everything he will react... he too needs to listen n hear out what mishti wants to say for that they both need to be in calm mind but both are not in that position...

And both had to find a middle ground abir is seeing a bigger picture n mishti wants to find a solution for kuhu which is a part of that bigger picture, so until they talk out n see what they can do about kuhu without giving meenu an opportunity which is more important for both girls this issue cant be solved...

see ,i agree abir know half truths but i still say abir at fault, breaking photos of mishbir and damaging room is not small thing, no wife will tolerate it, i know mishti said half truth but yar abir ko mishti ne ache se samjaya, kuhu ko usse acha kohi nahi jaanta and he should listen to her. even in resort too mishti said i trust and asked in return will u trust me? abir ne dusre tanget pe le gaya...

abir seeing bigger picture as meenu and mishti seeing kuhu as bigger picture, agar kuhu set hoti tho meenu cant break them but abir is seeing meenu and mishti seeing kuhu...

kuhu has to be called out for her actions, but thats only possible when abir will know full truths but this kuhu will make create havoc in mishbir lives for sure and uske baad abir regret karke bhi koyi fayda nahi hoga...

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Yes I love that time when Kuhu gave a bold diva attitude to Kunal, for wanting to divorce her, not coming for KC etc. I loved that tug-a-war kind of tashan between them, I really liked how they were progressing that Kuku story, that's why I also that post-leap their relationship still had good potential, because with Kuhu focusing on her event organising career, and with a more 'I-dont-care' attitiude, she really did start working on mishbir's advice to build self-respect for herself👍🏼👏 That was such a nice track. If only they continued with that further, rather than mix Kuhu's emotions with that nishmish rishta...she got completely mixed up in that "brotherly" love, that she lost her strength to fight for her rights in her marriage and then just completely fell for Kunal again when he said "come back, I don't want the divorce". arghh I so wished for a better arch to their relationship😒

Yes Kaveri did a great job😊 haha yes very Ritvik-type expressions 😆

hifi i too l,oved her i dont care n the bold kuhu she was so good yaar they did well even i didnt mind her leaving in anger after the special haar i thought maybe with mishbir shaadi they will give opportunity for kunal to get back kuhu n their story will progress uff they just spoiled it...

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Wow Diya! Fantastic analysis post yaar👏 Hitting the nail on all four characters👏

You've pointed out BM and Varsha's responsibilities as the motherly figure to both of them, they've failed over the years to be able to manage both Mishti and Kuhu's pains, unfortunately it appeared like one gained everything without asking whilst the other had to sacrifice it all. I think I've got a big essay on the maheshwari parenting somewhere😆...I'll try and find it and share it soon👍🏼

@bold: I get why you are saying that Nannu too shares this outlook of life as a competition. But the big difference that Nannu had, was that he felt that he was competing with his own demons/weaknesses, of addiction to alcohol. As we know, it's always good to have that self-criticising nature in you so that you realise your mistakes and learn from them - so nannu's 'competition' with life in regards to himself was an approach for him not fall back in to that dreadful cycle and disappoint his family's trust, BUT the place where Nannu started drifting off track was when he allowed BB to mess with his mind - Meenu associated his weakness of addiction to his attraction to Mishti. She conveniently made Mishti his next addiction, that he couldn't let og off, so he automatically started behaving like gaining Mishti and making Abir lose, will be a win for him and his family😳

Although Kuhu is understood to be immature in few aspects of life, she definitely isn't as childish as we believe, she has the ability to distinguish between right and wrong in basic things (regretting those insults she throws at Mishti, feeling guilty for Mishti's janmashtmi fall, able to see that Kunal was wrong when he blames Mish for taking Abir away from him, and feeling Mishti's pain during break-up, wanting to "keep things separate" with Abir bro post-leap etc.) There have been numerous such situations when Kuhu has shown these glimpses of a level-headed, realistic young woman, with the potential to really grow into a mature lady who can learn from her mistakes. But unfortunately the writers are not providing that clear path of redemption for her, they keep her in that vicious loop of showing her as 'immature,' when in actual fact she is just a lost soul with lack of guidance from an elder (now she has Abir bro👍🏼) masked by all her kiddish bubbly behaviour.

You explained Mishti's feelings and viewpoint perfectly!👏 I've very little to say, you covered most of it😊 In terms of what Mish says to Kuhu, I understand what you're trying to say and do agree to an extent. See, Mishti's behaviour in terms of trying to manage her unstable sibling relationship with Kuhu, has always been the same approach - she always gives her full heart and puts 100% effort into trying to solve matters, trying to make Kuhu feel better, trying to get Kuhu to understand where she is wrong...but like you explained, due to Kuhu's mental understanding...she gets nothing in return from Kuhu. Kuhu doesn't acknowledge Mishti's tries, but rather insults them as "being Mishti mahan" or "fake sister affection." Nothing Mishti says to her processes in her head, because she is hearing all this 'talk' 'lecture' from Mishti (who is the main problem/culprit in Kuhu's p.o.v), so she's just going to ignore whatever Mishti tries to explain to her. Kuhu has never reciprocated or tried to amend their relationship, but rather continuously taken every chance to put Mishti down (even if it meant Abir was collateral damage)😒.

The way you explained Varsha's good and poor traits as a mother was bang on👏👍🏼 Couldn't agree more. That last paragraph about the family not looking deeper into the sister's equation and trying to heal their wounds/emotions, was spot on👏

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Haan it does look at it that one got it all but its all in the pov when looked at deeply... 😆

Wow you got something on them post it yaar i want to read n analyse more about them which is more important at this point of time... 😆

Wow you explained nannu pov so well nandu maine generally kaha that he too looks life as a competition but you just went deep to explain on the why part this makes so much sense... 👏 he mainly competed with self n winning over abir came as an option bcoz of meenu n he thought that might make him win for self n can keep family trust like you said...

Even for kuhu its not like she is competing with mishti but the reason is as she wouldnt get family love she thought in these ways if she win over mishti it will be a compensation n also family might start giving her what she wants atleast after that, basically thats why she tries to compete with mish even in job even though thats not what she wanted she did that just to win over mish which can make the family see her equal to mishti according to her...

Totally She really behaves so maturely at times she has a good side too but she is not immature thats what most of them fail to understand rather its her frustration n anger which makes her do things which no one is able to understand n correct her... hope so nandu abir is able to be the guide she needs n she changes just like kunal...

@bold - Nandu you just said what i wanted to say, you have better way n words to explain yaar... basically its kuhu's pov which is the demon which made her neglect mishti's effort n mishti's approach doesnt get well with kuhu thats what abir too mentioned... i agree to your last words basically when it comes to mishti she looses her cool n doesnt realizes who is the collateral damage even if its abir...

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

big hifi!! Same here👍🏼🤗 hayee we need a separate post for just those damn attractive outfits of Abir❤️ hayee you just mentioned all the best sweater we saw with Abir❤️ He looks so handsome in them, I'm so gald they brought it back with the shivratri episode, he deserved more during the post-leap time when it would have been winter in India (dec-jan)😳😆

ooh yes, that's so true. He has asked Abir to be careful with who he trusts so quickly, first with Mishti as friends, then lovers, then when Baba came back, he tried to explain to him to not believe him so easily, then again with Nannu👍🏼 haan nanko needs to have a chat with him about all these times again now, only then Abir will see how many times he's been cheated (except Mishti's eg.).

True nandu it would've so good n droolsome for us if they had more during post leap 😆

@bold - words nandu this is what i'm expecting too with mishti abir had an emotional connect n was able to connect dots as he got to know truth n he understood her well which nanko failed to understand then so took time but with others nanko does need to have a talk with abir....

Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

here let me start it off....😃 (chronologically...)

1. olive green - episode 4

2. Navy blue - episode 10

3. Cream white - Episode 14

(your turn Diya😊 do continue)...

ohhooo Nandu this is amazing drool worthy.... let me continue with abir getting such sweeter as episode proceeds ok 👍🏼 will bookmark this post n keep updating with every sweatshirt of his

Originally posted by: ruhi19

diyu...pls dont say sorry...

see ,i agree abir know half truths but i still say abir at fault, breaking photos of mishbir and damaging room is not small thing, no wife will tolerate it, i know mishti said half truth but yar abir ko mishti ne ache se samjaya, kuhu ko usse acha kohi nahi jaanta and he should listen to her. even in resort too mishti said i trust and asked in return will u trust me? abir ne dusre tanget pe le gaya...

abir seeing bigger picture as meenu and mishti seeing kuhu as bigger picture, agar kuhu set hoti tho meenu cant break them but abir is seeing meenu and mishti seeing kuhu...

kuhu has to be called out for her actions, but thats only possible when abir will know full truths but this kuhu will make create havoc in mishbir lives for sure and uske baad abir regret karke bhi koyi fayda nahi hoga...

I agree abir is at fault but what i said is he is not the only one who is at fault... when she got the opportunity she couldnt say truth entirely else he is still looking at kuhu only as immature even with kunal he was able to confront him n he is changed today only after he knew what kunal did n kunal knew what abir did for him...

in that resort scene both were right n wrong see she knew about kuhu n abir too knew but half so what will he confront her with,.... if mish wants to do she can go ahead abir didnt say anything when she confronted kuhu but then if she wants abir to do something doesnt she need to hear his side too... he said trust me n she asked him to trust her n she went on to say about brothers which changed the whole conversation n she walked out misunderstanding abir... he needs to be careful with words n also listen to her at the same time even mishti needs to listen to him... both are at fault for not even listening to each other...

@bold - right this is what i said that kuhu needs to be corrected but in a way that meenu doesnt get an opportunity to mess up with all four life... if abir agrees to mishti n confronts kuhu it will instigate her more n thats what meenu wants right which is what abir is saying, leaving kuhu without any confrontation is gonna worsen too like mishti said... so only i said both needs to discuss all this n find a way to reprimand kuhu but also make sure meenu doesnt take advantage too... like cool said in her post in AT its like a catch 22 situation for both they both are right n wrong in their way n the solution for each others problem is with other only when they come together they can solve this else both are gonna get tangled in this mess n both are gonna regret only as both are not right in what they want n think...

Episode 15

Abir with mishti in hospital the doctor inform him that mishti is alright n the wound was small only not to worry...

Outer wounds can be healed easily with time but inner wounds cant be healed we just need to accept it and live with it.. The emotional connect of mishbir...

"Iss ladki ki zakam itni jaldi nahi baregi, main janta hu kyunki maine bhi inn zakamo ki saath jeena seekliya aur muskuraana bhi"

Mishti's inner fear comes out... talks in her unconscious state.. the chor incident n her accident has triggered her subconscious mind to relate to what her papa is doing and she is more concerned on saving her bm even if she couldnt save herself...

This whole sequence of mishti's fear and abir consoling her was so well done, heart touching n emotional

"Main apko aisa nahi karne dungi, main badi maa ki bachaungi main apki shakal bhi nahi dekna chahthi"

Abir is hesitant to even go near mishti thinking of meenu n naanu words that mishti is perfect for kunal... Damn no abir you finally fell for it, this is one of things i still hate of abirs action more than even breakup here there is no trigger still he went a bit selfish to unite two people he thought were perfect...

But as destiny united them here too abir couldnt hold back n finally held her hand... The first part where he calmed her down "Shhhhh kuch nahi hoga tumhe" this was so heart warming, soft n beautiful...

"Main janta hu tum kitne ziddi ho, tumhari zidd ki aage une haarna padega aur vaise bhi tumhe nahi unki zaroorat hai, aur naahi unki yaadon ki, unki yaade tho tumhari dil mai aise tenants ki tara reh rahi hai voh kiraya bhi nahi dedi, aur aise tenants ko ghar se nikaali dena chahiye, haina"

such beautiful words Mishti is absolutely ziddi if she wants to do something no one can stop her n the opponent will loose infront of her for sure chahe voh abir bhi ho best example her coming back from london in determination to get him back n see thats what happened... #Strongest

The second part of the sentence this is actually a life lesson we have lot of things unwanted memories, thoughts in our head which only spoils our thought process we should just throw it away we cant forget things but in actual sense put it behind n move forward,... he explained it so beautifully... ajeeb rajvansh giving his gyaan in the most ajeeb way..

"Sab mujhe chod ke jale jaate hai, tum bhi mujhe chod ke jale jaogi kya" the little 14yr old child in mishti.... this part just wrenched my heart, the dheere dheere lyrics, he cant let go yet he cant hold her too...

"Dheere dheere se mere zindagi main aake

dheere dheere se dil ko churake

mujhko chod ke chale ho kis raha pe

jaana hi tha kyu aayi yahan pe"

Slowly he let her into his heart n gave a place equal to kunal he did the same promise as he did to him and remember kunal asking him to stay back now he doesnt have one reason but two people for whom he needs to be there... kunal and mishti...

"Nahi main nahi jaunga promise"

"thodungi tho nahi"

"Main kabhi apna promise thod tha hu kya"

Side note the voice modulation, crack in his voice while saying this was so beautifully done by shaheer

As Bm comes to hospital n enters mishti room she finds kunal with her... the most stupidest thing abir had ever done... sorry i cant stop myself this is the exact thing which changed the whole kahaani...

Bm thanks kunal n he stops her n informs about mishti condition...

Kunal calls abir in but he refuses

"Nahi nanko abh mere yahan koi zaroorat nahi hai, vaisi bhi maa humesha kehthi haina ki main banjara hun ek jaha thikke nahi rehtha main chaungi tho bhi mere katam ek jahan nahi ruktha"

this is true abir if you want you cant stay in a single place not only you travel around also normally when others stand properly while talking you keep moving, doing weird faces, actions every millisecond

side note nandu remember in first episode after leap when everyone goes to hall from kitchen rounding the wall in rjv he climbs out of the inbetween wall to come to hall ajeeb hai ye banda

The flashback how Abir made kunal come here one to stop him from going to london which meenu wanted and also to make an impression of kunal infront of maheshwaris... Abir making kunal come here is not wrong but leaving him alone n lie that he saved mish was absolutely wrong...

But i loved the advice he gave kunal "agar chod pe tera naam ho tho mahram pe bhi tera naam hona chahiye" the person who hurt has be the healer too...

And kunals beautiful reply

"humari family na unki saath bahut galat kiya hai agar unki mushkil waqt unki saath rahenge tho ho sakta hai zayad unka dard kuch kam hojaye" the sensible kunal...

As kunal again tries to stop him abir runs off as bm calls kunal...

"Hain yeh kahaani kisi aur ki

mere yaaron ab woh fasana nahi...

pir udd chala asmaano mai

main parindo ka hota thikana nahi"

Heart breaking shayari but beautiful something describes abirs thought process well...

BP shaurya leave to bring back bm n mishti but they dont inform about mishti's accident... shaurya didnt want to worry anyone so informs bp alone n takes him when he mentions about taking kuhu to office... they do think of kuhu but circumstances make them choose one... thank god varsha n jas took care to cheer up kuhu... it was a balanced situation here both kids were taken care of...