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Posted: 6 years ago
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Great post👏👏👏

Felt really bad for Himanshi yesterday... Poore week bawal sabne machaya par isko sunaya 👎

She was crying but wo bhi cut kar Diya poora nahi dikhaya what she was saying 👎👎

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Wow! Amazing analysis and dissection!!👏

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NepaliArtist

Very well researched smiley32

So, there are two very obvious, well discussed types of manipulation that happens in the BB house.

1. Manipulating the audience

This is clearly something the show is very unapologetic about. Random cuts and heavily edited promos are released to hype up the episodes. Ridiculous storylines are attempted to spark up, and then abandoned when no material comes out from them. Eg - All Shefali said to Asim was "Why don't you just tell her that you love her?" regarding Himanshi, who bhee so casually she was just pulling Asim's leg like friends do. Plus, Himanshi is a young, pretty girl so makes total sense for Asim to find her attractive and flirt a little, but she has made it clear since day that she is committed already. Then, Bigg Boss cut a promo with a voiceover saying "Bechare Asim! Kab kehpayenge apni dil ki bat?" 🤣 And idiotic reviewers like Maun Punjabi (who HIMSELF was in the show yet is lost about what it works) is saying an hume pata chala ki yeh Asim pyar mein hai iseliye ye sab hua hai.

2. Manipulating the Contestants

This is also a very well-known thing that the show is unapologetic about. Salman even admitted last night that format hee aisa hai, jhagada nahee karogey toh creative team karwayegi. This happens in many obvious ways - like how teams are formed in tasks, which contestants are pitted against each other in tasks like the akhada, that bullshit shower nonsense, etc. This is also done in more subtle ways too. Eg - Salman giving Asim a boost of confidence last week when he was showing some autonomy and potential rebellion from Shukla. Or by BB's choice of words and selective enforcing of the rules (like when the other team lost out on their captaincy because of sleeping while Shukla jee can sleep and be a kamchor all he wants).

Then, yesterday it started hitting me that there is a third level of manipulation happening in the show itself. See, the show has become so popular that they very well know that there are people like us, who like to sit and endlessly dissect not only the contestants and tasks, but the show-runners and editing as well. So, now they are messing with us on that level as well. If anyone here watched/watches pro wrestling (not grappling sport, but WWE type wrestling) then that is super common in that industry. When fans think the company is pushing a certain wrestler too much, or holding back a wrestler too much, then they double down on it to create even more buzz. Any publicity is good publicity. So, that creates the third point:

3. Meta Manipulation

This happens to both contestants and audiences. Example - after Himanshi got trashed by Salman, she was visibly upset and shaken up. Salman (or rather, whoever is in his ear) chose to ignore her, because they knew the caller was coming up. Once the caller trashed her some more, Salman left for a bit. Interestingly, the show CHOSE to show us Himanshi wondering if the caller came from Sana's fanbase. Meanwhile, the girls went to the akhada and Himanshi won, but Salman stayed stoic. After coming back to stage, when contestants couldn't hear him - Salman suddenly switched to a lighter note saying idk if Himanshi is having a good week or bad. Clearly, they are messing with not just her, but how we think she is being treated by the show. Why? Because the Himanshi investment was made for one reason - to start a Sana fight. Planting the caller and trashing her for the push was a great way to get the controversy conversation going. Speaking of the akhada, all that pathetic acting by Salman while he was talking to the showrunners and insisting that the boys go for akhada is another (poor lol) attempt at meta manipulation. They want the show to look REAL, where they don't even edit out the host and production conversation. Salman is now even openly bashing the channel/show for doing things he himself wouldn't do. Further creating a narrative that the show is pushing Shukla and holding back Asim/other victims of his aggressive behavior. Its easy to just make the villian "channel wale/Colors team" because that is a nameless/faceless entity with no image to uphold. So instead of it spreading that Salman is a biased host, the gameplan is now to paint Salman as a helpless employee of an evil company. Next level, mega ch*tiyapa hai doston! 🤣

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Totally agree, very valid points.

Salman Khan was repetitive, that he is not part of it and didn’t want to get involved, but truth is he is very much part of it and very much involved. actions Mean much more than words, can he pleases Walk out of the show to show his sincerity if he is not happy or involved with what is going on.

I have to call this a Very cheap entertainment show

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nice post, but in the end this type of content sells, masses needs a time pass, creatives job is to creat content targeting these who likes it and have so much time to text, tweet or create # tags, spend day and night voting and burning hard earned cash or time... lots of food for thought.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Really interesting take.

Btw my mom who doesn’t watch the show at all, was just watching the weekend episode with me and she likes Salman a lot, felt he was very unfair to the girl in green who was crying also and to the kid in red clothes ( who to my mom looks 18). She has no context of the show or watched any previous episodes, this was just her opinion based on the episode she saw. She only knew of Sidharth Shukla and Rashmi, and she said Shukla is not likeable in BB( all based on one episode). My moms as neutral as it gets when it comes to Bb and she kept saying Salman is just lecturing! Lol.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chotimotipsycho

Really interesting take.

Btw my mom who doesn’t watch the show at all, was just watching the weekend episode with me and she likes Salman a lot, felt he was very unfair to the girl in green who was crying also and to the kid in red clothes ( who to my mom looks 18). She has no context of the show or watched any previous episodes, this was just her opinion based on the episode she saw. She only knew of Sidharth Shukla and Rashmi, and she said Shukla is not likeable in BB( all based on one episode). My moms as neutral as it gets when it comes to Bb and she kept saying Salman is just lecturing! Lol.

Hm thats very interesting, especially for this episode in particular. Because out of all the Weekend ka Vaar episodes, this one is the closest Salman has come to showing some kind of unbiasedness. If your mom saw the previous episodes where he doesn't even raise a finger at Shukla, or even when he tells him to control his anger he does it as a backhanded compliment, ("how can you be so logical, yet so aggressive?" etc) I really doubt this fact is going over the showrunner's head.

See, the possibilities are two extremes for me. Either,

1. I am thinking way too much about this show that, at its core, is just mindless entertainment, and the makers are at a point where they don't care how they come off - they just want the drama to continue and the originally planned winner to remain whitewashed so he/she can be a face of the channel in the future.

2. There is some serious thought put into this whole thing about how meta they want to appear. Personally, I am leaning towards this one because not only did Salman openly say he disagrees with the channel today, but they also staged that ridiculous nonsense with making the boys go to the akhada, and then the channel changing it to girls against Salman's wishes. That was pure staged (otherwise it would have never aired) and was done just to separate the host from the showrunners as a concept, so the biasedness doesn't fall on Salman's name. Maybe the show is playing a weird game where they are forcefully pushing Shukla via promos, edit, etc. and pushing Asim via 'unfair behavior' designed to look manipulative so they can both go along until the final. Afterall, no matter what happens in the future in terms of patchup or breakup, the truth is Asim gave the show what it desperately needed - a worthy rival for Shukla. It seemed like it would be Rashmi, but she ended up just not having that personality at all to fill that role. Paras (in my opinion) is a total self-proclaimed mastermind dumbass who has made mistake after mistake (most recently trying to get disqualified on a task he WON that resulted in Himanshi being the captain 😆)and has shown himself to be a sleaze many times (most recently by bringing up Shefali and Asim's physical comfort with each other), so its hard to promote a guy like that as a 'lead,' much more suited to be a 'supporting' character who gets to the top 5-ish and then is booted. I think the last final-ball-of-the-innings attempt by the channel to give Shukla a good rival was to throw Vishal in the mix. But, he ended up trying to fulfill the Asim position as soon as it became available! LOL. That leaves Asim. The nobody from Kashmir with the weird accent, overconfident posing, and unnecessary picking fights in the first week has now emerged to be the voice of reason and decency by being the only person to show guts against someone who is not only a total kamchor, domineering, aggressive violent manchild, but is also HEAVILY pushed by the show as seen in every weekend episode. Frankly, Asim deserves to win this show. Don't know if the show would ever allow that, or if its even possible to out-win Shukla's huge votebank, but Asim's story arc in the show is so much more interesting than Shukla's in my opinion.

Edited by NepaliArtist - 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NepaliArtist

So, there are two very obvious, well discussed types of manipulation that happens in the BB house.

1. Manipulating the audience

This is clearly something the show is very unapologetic about. Random cuts and heavily edited promos are released to hype up the episodes. Ridiculous storylines are attempted to spark up, and then abandoned when no material comes out from them. Eg - All Shefali said to Asim was "Why don't you just tell her that you love her?" regarding Himanshi, who bhee so casually she was just pulling Asim's leg like friends do. Plus, Himanshi is a young, pretty girl so makes total sense for Asim to find her attractive and flirt a little, but she has made it clear since day that she is committed already. Then, Bigg Boss cut a promo with a voiceover saying "Bechare Asim! Kab kehpayenge apni dil ki bat?" 🤣 And idiotic reviewers like Maun Punjabi (who HIMSELF was in the show yet is lost about what it works) is saying an hume pata chala ki yeh Asim pyar mein hai iseliye ye sab hua hai.

2. Manipulating the Contestants

This is also a very well-known thing that the show is unapologetic about. Salman even admitted last night that format hee aisa hai, jhagada nahee karogey toh creative team karwayegi. This happens in many obvious ways - like how teams are formed in tasks, which contestants are pitted against each other in tasks like the akhada, that bullshit shower nonsense, etc. This is also done in more subtle ways too. Eg - Salman giving Asim a boost of confidence last week when he was showing some autonomy and potential rebellion from Shukla. Or by BB's choice of words and selective enforcing of the rules (like when the other team lost out on their captaincy because of sleeping while Shukla jee can sleep and be a kamchor all he wants).

Then, yesterday it started hitting me that there is a third level of manipulation happening in the show itself. See, the show has become so popular that they very well know that there are people like us, who like to sit and endlessly dissect not only the contestants and tasks, but the show-runners and editing as well. So, now they are messing with us on that level as well. If anyone here watched/watches pro wrestling (not grappling sport, but WWE type wrestling) then that is super common in that industry. When fans think the company is pushing a certain wrestler too much, or holding back a wrestler too much, then they double down on it to create even more buzz. Any publicity is good publicity. So, that creates the third point:

3. Meta Manipulation

This happens to both contestants and audiences. Example - after Himanshi got trashed by Salman, she was visibly upset and shaken up. Salman (or rather, whoever is in his ear) chose to ignore her, because they knew the caller was coming up. Once the caller trashed her some more, Salman left for a bit. Interestingly, the show CHOSE to show us Himanshi wondering if the caller came from Sana's fanbase. Meanwhile, the girls went to the akhada and Himanshi won, but Salman stayed stoic. After coming back to stage, when contestants couldn't hear him - Salman suddenly switched to a lighter note saying idk if Himanshi is having a good week or bad. Clearly, they are messing with not just her, but how we think she is being treated by the show. Why? Because the Himanshi investment was made for one reason - to start a Sana fight. Planting the caller and trashing her for the push was a great way to get the controversy conversation going. Speaking of the akhada, all that pathetic acting by Salman while he was talking to the showrunners and insisting that the boys go for akhada is another (poor lol) attempt at meta manipulation. They want the show to look REAL, where they don't even edit out the host and production conversation. Salman is now even openly bashing the channel/show for doing things he himself wouldn't do. Further creating a narrative that the show is pushing Shukla and holding back Asim/other victims of his aggressive behavior. Its easy to just make the villian "channel wale/Colors team" because that is a nameless/faceless entity with no image to uphold. So instead of it spreading that Salman is a biased host, the gameplan is now to paint Salman as a helpless employee of an evil company. Next level, mega ch*tiyapa hai doston! 🤣

It's a surprise that you people understand now.

This show was always like this.

And this is the reason we watch this show.

As I wrote many times. Audience itself is rigged.

There is no reality in reality shows.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Bang on post

You covered each and every Statragy of the show and channel specially the last one was killed ek tere se do nishane

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NepaliArtist

3. Meta Manipulation

This happens to both contestants and audiences. Example - after Himanshi got trashed by Salman, she was visibly upset and shaken up. Salman (or rather, whoever is in his ear) chose to ignore her, because they knew the caller was coming up. Once the caller trashed her some more, Salman left for a bit. Interestingly, the show CHOSE to show us Himanshi wondering if the caller came from Sana's fanbase. Meanwhile, the girls went to the akhada and Himanshi won, but Salman stayed stoic. After coming back to stage, when contestants couldn't hear him - Salman suddenly switched to a lighter note saying idk if Himanshi is having a good week or bad. Clearly, they are messing with not just her, but how we think she is being treated by the show. Why? Because the Himanshi investment was made for one reason - to start a Sana fight. Planting the caller and trashing her for the push was a great way to get the controversy conversation going. Speaking of the akhada, all that pathetic acting by Salman while he was talking to the showrunners and insisting that the boys go for akhada is another (poor lol) attempt at meta manipulation. They want the show to look REAL, where they don't even edit out the host and production conversation. Salman is now even openly bashing the channel/show for doing things he himself wouldn't do. Further creating a narrative that the show is pushing Shukla and holding back Asim/other victims of his aggressive behavior. Its easy to just make the villian "channel wale/Colors team" because that is a nameless/faceless entity with no image to uphold. So instead of it spreading that Salman is a biased host, the gameplan is now to paint Salman as a helpless employee of an evil company. Next level, mega ch*tiyapa hai doston! 🤣

Exactly!

The 'creatives' must be so proud of themselves, thinking that they achieved their target and all those who escaped manipulation no. 1 and 2 would definitely fall for 3 😆

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