Patiala Babes Season 2 Discussion Thread - Page 27

Originally posted by: Jiarao

I agree with everything you said but regarding finding happiness in some form, wasn't Mini happy for one second in all five years pursuing her passion? Being a travel photographer was her dream. Fulfilling it must have given her say atleast 1% happiness. That's how everyone finds happiness in worst of conditions. It's not like HS and Babitha were the only one to find happiness and she always had HS on her side and it's shown that he had tried to bridge the gap. Please don't mistake me, I am not trying to justify what HS and Babitha did .

And most importantly no matter what CVs tried to show about Babitha I wouldn't believe for a second a mother's heart doesn't ache for estranged child. It's impossible for even for worst of mothers. ( I am a mother myself and at times selfish and ignorant towards my child. So I guess I have some authority to say this.)

Yes, Mini left in the most worse way possible, but she did get an opportunity to chase her dreams, something she always wanted to do. She got to travel the world, be a photographer for a renowned travel magazine. I am not gonna say Mini wasn't happy in those 5 years. Of course, she missed her Mother and Hanuman Uncle a lot, and yes her journey would have been smoother if things were ok with her and her mother, but that doesn't mean Mini didn't live her life in the past 5 years. She got freedom and independence to live her life in her own terms. Similarly, HS and Babita, of course missed and longed for Mini everyday, but doesn't mean they stopped living their life. It doesn't work like that. Her work and school and friends kept Mini distracted, similarly Hanita sort of moved on (from what happened) with time as well. Arya came in the picture and they got busy with raising her. All of this doesn't mean, they didn't miss Mini or didn't long for Mini, or didn't think about Mini.

@Bold - Exactly! I don't believe that Babita didn't miss Mini, or longed for Mini or her heart didn't ache for Mini every second of the day. Even Arya noticed that "Mamma hamesha Mini Mini karti rehti thi".

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I agree. What they needed was time. They had too many fall outs and emotional dramas over a small period of time. They needed to address everything once things cooled down but Minnie's departure threw all of that away. They both knew ki their relationship needed to grow organically but it's difficult to do that when you're seas apart. If anyone's at fault here, then it's time. Waqt ne hi saath ni diya.

Exactly, waqt ne hi saath nahi diya, but I think the absence did make her grow even fonder of HS.

They didn't leave on bitter terms but their relationship was in a bit of a limbo. I think Babita's anger was in the forefront so even when she visited she may not have been able to/wanted to spend enough time there, hence they didn't get a chance to mend things. It would have been this return of hers, 5 years later when I think HS decided he wasn't going to let this chance go and wanted to see them all reconcile. I guess he convinced Babita to try and sort things out and go with him. The way he said ghar aa jaa chhori... made that very clear. I think he did not want this emotional and phyiscal distance between them all anymore.

Alas! It was just too late for them all.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

I am not saying finding happiness work wise is equal to love and warmth of family. Both are important to be happy completely. I am just saying Mini also had some ways to happiness eventhough it was. clouded by the absence of her family.

HS did find happiness in his job and even Babitha did when they had nothing or no one else.. But it was never complete. Same thing goes for Mini. It's not that she was sad for every second of last five years and surely HS and Babitha weren't happy for every second of five years. All of them were equally affected by what happened. In real life parents do get hurt by absence of their children unlike iin PB world. I am sure HS and Babitha weren't among those parents who would kill their children or throw them out of house for some reason.

Well regarding Babitha not reaching out to Mini, I can only blame writers for showing mothers in such bad light. I do believe it was done to victimize Mini else I haven't any mother who won't talk to her daughter for five years. I am not denying the possibility but there was no need to show such a mother on TV.

well career happiness doent actually mean much if you are not well emotionally . Its just a way out to divert you attention to something constructive and keep sane & gives you a certain satisfaction. telling this from personal experience

minis moments of finding happiness would have been far lesser in comparison to HS babita. With arya around they certainly had more reasons to move on and be happy and i dont blame them because for a child you have to do all that & also a child automatically brings happiness in ones life. Mini actually had no one to move on with.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

I am not saying finding happiness work wise is equal to love and warmth of family. Both are important to be happy completely. I am just saying Mini also had some ways to happiness eventhough it was. clouded by the absence of her family.

HS did find happiness in his job and even Babitha did when they had nothing or no one else.. But it was never complete. Same thing goes for Mini. It's not that she was sad for every second of last five years and surely HS and Babitha weren't happy for every second of five years. All of them were equally affected by what happened. In real life parents do get hurt by absence of their children unlike iin PB world. I am sure HS and Babitha weren't among those parents who would kill their children or throw them out of house for some reason.

Well regarding Babitha not reaching out to Mini, I can only blame writers for showing mothers in such bad light. I do believe it was done to victimize Mini else I haven't any mother who won't talk to her daughter for five years. I am not denying the possibility but there was no need to show such a mother on TV.

@Bold - Agreed!

I believe they didn't let Mini-Babes reconcile so that they can show a Mini who's victim of her circumstances. I think NM mentioned it somewhere, it seems like writers like their protagonist to be a victim, though they preach be a victor not a victim.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I do think that when she left home, she had already accepted HS as her family and she saw it as her leaving her parents. Of course, Babes had been her parent all her life while she had only just accepted HS in that role. Really the timing of her departure was terrible. If only they had had more time I am quite sure the gaps would be bridged over time. HS and Minnie could not remain with these gaps forever, but it wasn't what the writers wanted so here we are now. Minnie is forever going to regret not getting a chance to have her father's love.

Also, lets not forget that while Babes did love her, she was always more of the mother in their relationship, but with HS it was different because she was always the child and he the parent/father figure. At difficult times in her life like this, if she were to seek comfort, HS is the person she'd go to rather than Babita, because she doesn't need to be brave around him. She can be herself, like an open book, and be vulnerable without fear, show him her weaknesses. It's such a HUGE loss for her not to have him around. I am not sure NB can do what HS would have been able to.

That's exactly what she said on Friday. She couldn't call up her Hanuman Uncle, or hug him and tell him that she's not fine. Jo bhi kaho, he was her strongest pillar. The one who kept the ground solid beneath her feet.

Everything is fractured and broken to pieces for her.

Just think about it, the girl lost her PARENTS and Dadu, Beeji, and Naaem Bi were asking her if she would tell Arya that Hanita are dead. Like da eff??

They're fricking senior citizens and had the audacity to excuse themselves saying they're too heartbroken about Hanita's deaths. Umm... excuse you??? And Minnie isn't??

It was another example of how EVERYONE expects her to be incredibly strong. HS would have never approved of this. 😤😤

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Yes, Mini left in the most worse way possible, but she did get an opportunity to chase her dreams, something she always wanted to do. She got to travel the world, be a photographer for a renowned travel magazine. I am not gonna say Mini wasn't happy in those 5 years. Of course, she missed her Mother and Hanuman Uncle a lot, and yes her journey would have been smoother if things were ok with her and her mother, but that doesn't mean Mini didn't live her life in the past 5 years. She got freedom and independence to live her life in her own terms. Similarly, HS and Babita, of course missed and longed for Mini everyday, but doesn't mean they stopped living their life. It doesn't work like that. Her work and school and friends kept Mini distracted, similarly Hanita sort of moved on (from what happened) with time as well. Arya came in the picture and they got busy with raising her. All of this doesn't mean, they didn't miss Mini or didn't long for Mini, or didn't think about Mini.

@Bold - Exactly! I don't believe that Babita didn't miss Mini, or longed for Mini or her heart didn't ache for Mini every second of the day. Even Arya noticed that "Mamma hamesha Mini Mini karti rehti thi".

Very well said! Time and tide wait for no man. Even when people go far away or die, as much as it hurts, we do move on in life. That's the simple truth. It doesn't mean that our lives will be complete but we still have to pick ourselves up and find the strength to keep going. HS and Babita did the same as did Minnie. They all survived and moved on, albeit with a huge ache in their hearts.

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Originally posted by: naq5

well career happiness doent actually mean much if you are not well emotionally . Its just a way out to divert you attention to something constructive and keep sane & gives you a certain satisfaction. telling this from personal experience

minis moments of finding happiness would have been far lesser in comparison to HS babita. With arya around they certainly had more reasons to move on and be happy and i dont blame them because for a child you have to do all that & also a child automatically brings happiness in ones life. Mini actually had no one to move on with.

I agree. And it looks like Minnie didn't visit that often and when she did it was for short periods of time. She didn't talk much with Babes either, so whenever she returned to Australia after each visit she probably still felt the void.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

That's exactly what she said on Friday. She couldn't call up her Hanuman Uncle, or hug him and tell him that she's not fine. Jo bhi kaho, he was her strongest pillar. The one who kept the ground solid beneath her feet.

Everything is fractured and broken to pieces for her.

Just think about it, the girl lost her PARENTS and Dadu, Beeji, and Naaem Bi were asking her if she would tell Arya that Hanita are dead. Like da eff??

They're fricking senior citizens and had the audacity to excuse themselves saying they're too heartbroken about Hanita's deaths. Umm... excuse you??? And Minnie isn't??

It was another example of how EVERYONE expects her to be incredibly strong. HS would have never approved of this. 😤😤

This part I didn't understand. Why couldn't NB/Dadu-Beeji tell Arya? They are obviously more closer to Arya than Mini. And they expect Mini to tell Arya? Yooo Mini is as devastated, probably more than anyone, and they expect Mini to be strong?

Like Mini said, she had a huge pressure from everyone of being brave, of being a "Veer-Balika".

Originally posted by: inlieu

I do think that when she left home, she had already accepted HS as her family and she saw it as her leaving her parents. Of course, Babes had been her parent all her life while she had only just accepted HS in that role. Really the timing of her departure was terrible. If only they had had more time I am quite sure the gaps would be bridged over time. HS and Minnie could not remain with these gaps forever, but it wasn't what the writers wanted so here we are now. Minnie is forever going to regret not getting a chance to have her father's love.

Also, lets not forget that while Babes did love her, she was always more of the mother in their relationship, but with HS it was different because she was always the child and he the parent/father figure. At difficult times in her life like this, if she were to seek comfort, HS is the person she'd go to rather than Babita, because she doesn't need to be brave around him. She can be herself, like an open book, and be vulnerable without fear, show him her weaknesses. It's such a HUGE loss for her not to have him around. I am not sure NB can do what HS would have been able to.

i would have actually liked to see HS mini dynamics here if they had retained him. with babita gone both in pain. hs in pain also because they never got to be family with babita mini arya HS and now when mini has come babita is gone maybe a sense of disappointment with mini for not being there. mini seeing Arya HS , maybe feeling left out, unsure of her position in his life.. they had quite a lot of material with this.