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Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

Hillary Clinton did it for her political life every one knows it out there ..she did not do it for her marriage or love for her guy

So do others they put up with shit to save their stature and dreams howsoever small it is in the society quite like Hillary. Without having that Clinton Backing would she have not stood her ground any better politically? If yes then she was an empowered woman if not then is she really any stronger than those who take all sorts of crass from family, friends, and society? SO far I understand I don't think anyone endures any kind of violence out of choice or love. They do so only when they think some other dream or desire to be of greater importance than their own dignity.

There was a probationary IPS officer in Alwar who had taken a lot of abuse for years before filing a report against her husband who was an IAS officer.

Jaipur IRS officer actually hanged herself and died because of her Inlaws

There are many more instances where even law enforcement officers throughout the world have killed themselves or have suffered at the hand of their spouses.

Don't remember their names you can google it.

There is another case of a Police Officer Saumya who was stalked harassed and killed by a fellow police officer in Kerala. The biggest issue of this case was that the victim even though a law enforcement official well aware of what criminal mindset is and how it functions did not ever in the course of years of stalking ever filed a formal complaint against her colleague.

These names are not even the tip of the ice berg. There are DOctors engineers and many more who endure spousal violence all the time for ages. I was In US when I had come across this Silicon valley CEO don't remember his name but do remember his wife's name, Neha Rastogi. She was a QA analyst if I remember correctly. She stayed with a husband who thrashed her black and blue for ten years before she found the courage to move out. My point again education alone does not empower anyone. It is major factor for sure which helps one to stand on their own foot but not the only factor.

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

Educated women if they r putting up with that sxhit like our screen heroes wives r putting up with it's bcos of status and money..and has no self respect

Financial independdnt does not mean just doing a big job ..it means u really fin independent and u don't care a sxhit about u r hubby earnings and can sustain the life style and status in society u want by u r self individually ...

Normally a self respect gal does not care about this society fake status and has confidence in herself never puts up with sxhit

Most of what you said here is true.

Originally posted by: mytinypaintings

So do others they put up with shit to save their stature and dreams howsoever small it is in the society quite like Hillary. Without having that Clinton Backing would she have not stood her ground any better politically? If yes then she was an empowered woman if not then is she really any stronger than those who take all sorts of crass from family, friends, and society? SO far I understand I don't think anyone endures any kind of violence out of choice or love. They do so only when they think some other dream or desire to be of greater importance than their own dignity.

There was a probationary IPS officer in Alwar who had taken a lot of abuse for years before filing a report against her husband who was an IAS officer.

Jaipur IRS officer actually hanged herself and died because of her Inlaws

There are many more instances where even law enforcement officers throughout the world have killed themselves or have suffered at the hand of their spouses.

Don't remember their names you can google it.

There is another case of a Police Officer Saumya who was stalked harassed and killed by a fellow police officer in Kerala. The biggest issue of this case was that the victim even though a law enforcement official well aware of what criminal mindset is and how it functions did not ever in the course of years of stalking ever filed a formal complaint against her colleague.

These names are not even the tip of the ice berg. There are DOctors engineers and many more who endure spousal violence all the time for ages. I was In US when I had come across this Silicon valley CEO don't remember his name but do remember his wife's name, Neha Rastogi. She was a QA analyst if I remember correctly. She stayed with a husband who thrashed her black and blue for ten years before she found the courage to move out. My point again education alone does not empower anyone. It is major factor for sure which helps one to stand on their own foot but not the only factor.

I agree with u ..that's what I said in my above post .

Problem is u r really not getting those gals educated in education sense .u r getting them financial earning positions

That's the parents fault .they tell those gal kids get job earn u r self but they don't teach self respect ..stand up on their own and don't care about society status sxhit and main thing they don't assure their gals ..when some thing goes wrong with hubby or with any other guy

we r there for u ..no matter what we trust u ..and don't care about status ..

And there r some women inspite having support from parents they themselves ..crave for status and power and put with that ex Hillary and some women

Some women lack financial earnings and put up with sxhit

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

I agree with u ..that's what I said in my above post .

Problem is u r really not getting those gals educated in education sense .u r getting them financial earning positions

That's the parents fault .they tell those gal kids get job earn u r self but they don't teach self respect ..stand up on their own and don't care about society status sxhit and main thing they don't assure their gals ..when some thing goes wrong with hubby or with any other guy

we r there for u ..no matter what we trust u ..and don't care about status ..

And there r some women inspite having support from parents they themselves ..crave for status and power and put with that ex Hillary and some women

Some women lack financial earnings and put up with sxhit

@ bold I think you have said it all. Absolutely Parents are the key here.

Some have open marriages kind of stuff going on ..and they don't care about their partners sxhit .but even in those cases not all put up with abuse from partner

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

There's nothing wrong with that movie bring made .bit it should have been promoted as a toxic character but that director guy promoted the hero as he is doing nothing wrong ..that's where it suck

I get it’s a problematic portrayal and direction chosen by the makers. I didn’t watch Kabir singh and couldn’t sit through the whole arjun reddy either. But the way I see it, it was her decision to stay with that guy. She made that choice. Now I am in no way saying that it’s not toxic. It’s messed up but people do messed up things. If you go back and watch old movies, I am sure you’ll notice how in most movies it’s just a guy and his friends creating situations and tormenting women into liking the said guy. It’s the same thing but they haven’t sugar coated any of that in this movie. Again I absolutely didn’t like the movie except for the acting. Like you said , it could have been done differently. Women are conditioned to think that this is love and it might be, I am not saying it’s not but just that it’s toxic. And even we’ll educated people will have these blinders up when it comes to certain situations.

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

Educated women if they r putting up with that sxhit like our screen heroes wives r putting up with it's bcos of status and money..and has no self respect

Financial independdnt does not mean just doing a big job ..it means u really fin independent and u don't care a sxhit about u r hubby earnings and can sustain the life style and status in society u want by u r self individually ...

Normally a self respect gal does not care about this society fake status and has confidence in herself never puts up with sxhit

While I understand where you are coming from, I think it’s a highly insensitive thing to say. A lot of people are brought in such a way that they think there is no way out. They have watched their parents do the same thing and think it’s normal. To say that no self respecting woman would put herself through this is insulting. I understand that these women need to fight back n all but it’s not alway money or status, it can be a lot of other things; emotional dependency, kids, or the ever present ‘log kya kahenge’ because at the end of the day we live in a society and most people do sadly care about what others say about them

Originally posted by: Parvathi12

I get it’s a problematic portrayal and direction chosen by the makers. I didn’t watch Kabir singh and couldn’t sit through the whole arjun reddy either. But the way I see it, it was her decision to stay with that guy. She made that choice. Now I am in no way saying that it’s not toxic. It’s messed up but people do messed up things. If you go back and watch old movies, I am sure you’ll notice how in most movies it’s just a guy and his friends creating situations and tormenting women into liking the said guy. It’s the same thing but they haven’t sugar coated any of that in this movie. Again I absolutely didn’t like the movie except for the acting. Like you said , it could have been done differently. Women are conditioned to think that this is love and it might be, I am not saying it’s not but just that it’s toxic. And even we’ll educated people will have these blinders up when it comes to certain situations.

Originally posted by: najma123

I think his character didn't suck as much as the director's claims of him being a model hero. That's where it sucked. He could have promoted it as the guy himself, this is his story. Saying shit about true love gives you the right to slap and there's no love if you can't hit type comments are just disgusting.

Exactly . Actually that director thinking is toxic i.e he feels there's nothing wrong what the hero did .

If he is a normal thinking guy ..he would have changed the climax and that would have shown to viewers ..how toxic relationship ends..i.e they might not end that way always but atleast director would not have sent wrong message

Originally posted by: Parvathi12

While I understand where you are coming from, I think it’s a highly insensitive thing to say. A lot of people are brought in such a way that they think there is no way out. They have watched their parents do the same thing and think it’s normal. To say that no self respecting woman would put herself through this is insulting. I understand that these women need to fight back n all but it’s not alway money or status, it can be a lot of other things; emotional dependency, kids, or the ever present ‘log kya kahenge’ because at the end of the day we live in a society and most people do sadly care about what others say about them

That's what I am saying .....THEY ARE brought up in such a way ....u urself said it

That's where the problem lies ..

Kids .if u say to them properly they understand..it's more with status and money ..rather than kids ..kids r highly adaptable

Reg Emotional dependency ....becoming a strong person is not easy ..how u r brought up plays a role in it ..emotions r there for every one ..but when other person is abusing ..u still emotional dependant does not make sense

Rather than emotional dependancy ..which I don't believe ..u crave when other person is abuser .. it's about how u r brought up ..lack of support system in parents makes the difference

And coming to society

I don't think society these days cares about divorced or not except in acute rural places ..

it's more about ..status money ..u associate with husband ..for eg a rich gal marries a driver ..and rich gal divorces driver ..society cares a sxhit ..bcos status and money equation is not disturbed